TheFinisher;3883416 said:
That's a fact.
TheFinisher;3883416 said:
Not a fact, but you stated it like it is.
TheFinisher;3883416 said:
Not a fact, but you stated it like it is.
I don't have a lot of time to go back and forth with you but...
TheFinisher;3883416 said:
The funny part is I act like I know? It doesn't take an expert to realize the obvious. Here's what I said:
"Don't worry, Watt's bigger, more athletic, just as disruptive, and not the headache that Fairley is."
Well, Watt IS Bigger, IS more athletic, and IS just as disruptive... the proof? Go look at the combine results and the stats of both players over the past 2 seasons. As far as the headache comment, it's been out for a while now that Fairley has some character issues, while Watt has been praised for his character.
You
were insinuating that Watt is going to be the better player, right? I mean, why would we care that Watt is bigger and more athletic if not because it means he's a better football player? Were you simply saying that I shouldn't worry about missing out on Fairley only because Watt is bigger, etc.? Why else would I care if not in relation to how they play football?
I assumed when you told me not to worry that Watt is bigger, etc., that you were essentially saying, "Don't worry, Watt will be a better football player than Fairley."
If you aren't talking about what kind of pro football player they will become, then, fine, I agree that Watt is bigger... but why are we talking about that if we aren't talking about how well they will play football? I don't care about who's bigger, I care about who's going to be better.
So, unless you were for some strange reason not talking about what type of football players they will be, then you were acting as if you know Watt will be better, and not to worry about missing out on Fairley.
And it isn't a fact that Watt is 'more athletic' or 'just as disruptive' as Fairley either. Just because Watt had some better results on combine drills doesn't make him more athletic than Fairley. It can be
argued that he is, but it isn't a fact, and you state it like it is.
As for 'just as disruptive'... That is quite a stretch, IMO. And considering that everyone has Fairley as the better prospect and that Fairley won the Lombardi Award, I don't think it is too far fetched for me to think there is a chance that Fairley is the better player.
TheFinisher;3883416 said:
And what the hell does any of this have to do with comparing Watt vs. Fairley?
You should be able to figure this one out.
You were talking primarily about measurables. You said Watt is bigger and more athletic than Fairley. Presumably you said he is more athletic because of his combine results. Also, presumably, you were talking about what kind of football players they would become and not just the fact that Watt weighed more.
Reggie White and Randy White both were absolutely dominant guys, even though plenty of players every year are bigger and test better at the combine... yet those guys don't play football anywhere close to how well Reggie and Randy played it.
I was saying that you might as well say that Watt is going to be as good as Reggie White because he is just as big and more athletic because of his better combine results.
See?
My point was that Fairley was the more dominant, better player in College in my opinion, and just because Watt is a tad bigger and tested a little better doesn't make him better than Fairley any more than all the guys who tested better than Reggie White were better than him.
Simply put: Combine results mean very little once they hit the football field, and you were saying not to worry because Watt's combine was a tad better than Fairley's.
TheFinisher;3883416 said:
1st off, never did I say "with 100% confidence that I know Watt is going to be the better NFL player", so nice try with that one.
You told me not to worry about missing out on Fairley because Watt is a little bigger and tested better at the combine.
You seemed pretty sure to me.
TheFinisher;3883416 said:
Fairley dominated in the SEC, Watt dominated in the Big 10. Where you're wrong here is that the Big 10 generally produces the best offensive line talent year in and year out, so knowing that it actually gives Watt the edge in competition. If you don't think Watt dominated anywhere close to Fairley then you need to go back and watch his games, specifically Ohio St., because you obviously didn't watch him play to make such a dumb statement
You think I'm dumb for thinking the SEC is the best college conference?
No wonder you like Watt better than Fairley.
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