Draft Guides

[Risen Star]

They're starting to show up on the shelves. Picked up Lindy's guide today. I figured I'd post their top 100 and their mock. Obviously this was done before FA making the mock pretty meaningless.

Top 100
1. Joey Bosa DE Ohio St.
2. Laremy Tunsil T Mississippi
3. Jalen Ramsey S Florida St.
4. Jared Goff QB California
5. Myles Jack OLB UCLA
6. Laquon Treadwell WR Mississippi
7. Ronnie Stanley T Notre Dame
8. DeForest Buckner DE Oregon
9. A'Shawn Robinson DT Alabama
10. Carson Wentz QB North Dakota St.

11. Mackensie Alexander CB Clemson
12. Ezekiel Elliott RB Ohio St.
13. Shaq Lawson DE Clemson
14. Vernon Hargreaves CB Florida
15. Andrew Billings DT Baylor
16. Reggie Ragland ILB Alabama
17. Darron Lee OLB Ohio St.
18. Robert Nkemdiche DT Mississippi
19. Taylor Decker T Ohio St.
20. Jaylon Smith OLB Notre Dame

21. Jarran Reed DT Alabama
22. Noah Spence DE Eastern Kentucky
23. Corey Coleman WR Baylor
24. Jack Conklin T Michigan St.
25. Sheldon Rankins DT Louisville
26. Jonathan Bullard DE Florida
27. Leonard Floyd OLB Georgia
28. Kevin Dodd DE Clemson
29. Kenny Clark DT UCLA
30. Paxton Lynch QB Memphis

31. Emmanuel Ogbah DE Oklahoma St.
32. Eli Apple CB Ohio St.
33. Vernon Butler DT Louisiana Tech
34. Hunter Henry TE Arkansas
35. Ryan Kelly C Alabama
36. Michael Thomas WR Ohio St.
37. Cody Whitehair G Kansas St.
38. Austin Johnson DT Penn St.
39. Shon Coleman T Auburn
40. Josh Doctson WR TCU

41. Derrick Henry RB Alabama
42. Jason Spriggs T Indiana
43. Will Fuller WR Notre Dame
44. Connor Cook QB Michigan St.
45. Kendall Fuller CB Virginia Tech
46. Braxton Miller WR Ohio St.
47. Darian Thompson S Boise St.
48. Vonn Bell S Ohio St.
49. Vadal Alexander G LSU
50. Joshua Perry OLB Ohio St.

51. Germain Ifedi T Texas A&M
52. Austin Hooper TE Stanford
53. Shilique Calhoun DE Michigan St.
54. Jeremy Cash S Duke
55. Kentrell Brothers ILB Missouri
56. Jalen Mills CB LSU
57. Adolphus Washington DT Ohio St.
58. Tyler Boyd WR Pittsburgh
59. Su'a Cravens OLB USC
60. Alex Collins RB Arkansas

61. Pharoh Cooper WR South Carolina
62. Le'Raven Clark T Texas Tech
63. William Jackson III CB Houston
64. Devontae Booker RB Utah
65. Nick Martin C Notre Dame
66. Roberto Aguayo K Florida St.
67. Landon Turner G North Carolina
68. Carl Nassib DE Penn St.
69. Artie Burns CB Miami
70. Kyler Fackrell OLB Utah St.

71. Christian Hackenberg QB Penn St.
72. Rashard Higgins WR Colorado St.
73. Joshua Garnett G Stanford
74. Chris Jones DT Mississippi St.
75. Kenneth Dixon RB Louisiana Tech
76. Sterling Shepard WR Oklahoma
77. Will Redmond CB Mississippi St.
78. Jerald Hawkins T LSU
79. Bronson Kaufusi DE BYU
80. Miles Killebrew S Southern Utah

81. Christian Westerman G Arizona St.
82. Dominique Alexander ILB Oklahoma
83. Jordan Howard RB Indiana
84. Deion Jones OLB LSU
85. Sebastian Tretola G Arkansas
86. Leonte Carroo WR Rutgers
87. Xavien Howard CB Baylor
88. John Theus T Georgia
89. Sean Davis S Maryland
90. Sheldon Day DT Notre Dame

91. Jonathan Williams RB Arkansas
92. Shawn Oakman DE Baylor
93. Kenny Lawler WR California
94. Jordan Jenkins OLB Georgia
95. Harlan Miller CB Southeastern Louisiana
96. Nick Vannett TE Ohio St.
97. De'Runnya Wilson WR Mississippi St.
98. Kyle Murphy T Stanford
99. Zack Sanchez CB Oklahoma
100. Tyler Matakevich ILB Temple

 

[Risen Star]

Mock

1st Round
1. Tennessee - Laremy Tunsil T Mississippi
2. Cleveland - Carson Wentz QB North Dakota St.
3. San Diego - DeForest Buckner DE Oregon

4. Dallas - Joey Bosa DE Ohio St.
Although he might never be a double digit sack artist, Bosa is very well rounded with the physical talent, instincts and power to disrupt the offensive gameplan.

5. Jacksonville - Jalen Ramsey CB Florida St.
6. Baltimore - Ronnie Stanley T Notre Dame
7. San Francisco - Jared Goff QB California
8. Miami - Noah Spence DE Eastern Kentucky
9. Tampa Bay - Vernon Hargreaves CB Florida
10. N.Y. Giants - Shaq Lawson DE Clemson
11. Chicago - Myles Jack OLB UCLA
12. New Orleans - A'Shawn Robinson DT Alabama
13. Philadelphia - Paxton Lynch QB Memphis
14. Oakland - Reggie Ragland ILB Alabama
15. Los Angeles - Laquon Treadwell WR Mississippi
16. Detroit - Taylor Decker T Ohio St.
17. Atlanta - Darron Lee OLB Ohio St.
18. Indianapolis - Ezekiel Elliott RB Ohio St.
19. Buffalo - Sheldon Rankins DT Louisville
20. N.Y. Jets - Leonard Floyd OLB Georgia
21. Washington - Mackensie Alexander CB Clemson
22. Houston - Connor Cook QB Michigan St.
23. Minnesota - Cody Whitehair G Kansas St.
24. Cincinnati - Braxton Miller WR Ohio St.
25. Pittsburgh - Eli Apple CB Ohio St.
26. Seattle - Jack Conklin T Michigan St.
27. Green Bay - Jarran Reed DT Alabama
28. Kansas City - Vonn Bell S Ohio St.
29. Arizona - Jaylon Smith OLB Notre Dame
30. Carolina - Kevin Dodd DE Clemson
31. Denver - Robert Nkemdiche DT Mississippi

2nd Round
32. Cleveland - Corey Coleman WR Baylor
33. Tennessee - Kendall Fuller CB Virginia Tech

34. Dallas - Andrew Billings DT Baylor
Strong as an ox, Billings is a natural fit for the 1 technique defensive tackle position in Rod Marinelli's four man front.

35. San Diego - Ryan Kelly C Alabama
36. Baltimore - Michael Thomas WR Ohio St.
37. San Francisco - William Jackson III CB Houston
38. Jacksonville - Kyler Fackrell OLB Utah St.
39. Tampa Bay - Emmanuel Ogbah DE Oklahoma St.
40. N.Y. Giants - Jason Spriggs T Indiana
41. Chicago - Jonathan Bullard DE Florida
42. Miami - Derrick Henry RB Alabama
43. Los Angeles (Philadelphia) - Christian Hackenberg QB Penn St.
44. Oakland - Artie Burns CB Miami
45. Los Angeles - Shilique Calhoun DE Michigan St.
46. Detroit - Vernon Butler DT Louisiana Tech
47. New Orleans - Su'a Cravens OLB USC
48. Indianapolis - Austin Johnson DT Penn St.
49. Buffalo - Kamalei Correa DE/OLB Boise St.
50. Atlanta - Will Fuller WR Notre Dame
51. N.Y. Jets - Joshua Perry OLB Ohio St.
52. Houston - Tyler Boyd WR Pittsburgh
53. Washington - Kentrell Brothers ILB Missouri
54. Minnesota - Josh Doctson WR TCU
55. Cincinnati - Jeremy Cash S Duke
56. Seattle - Kenny Clark DT UCLA
57. Green Bay - Hunter Henry TE Arkansas
58. Pittsburgh - Joshua Garnett G Stanford
59. Kansas City - Chris Jones DT Mississippi St.
60. New England - Pharoh Cooper WR South Carolina
61. Arizona - Cardale Jones QB Ohio St.
62. Carolina - Karl Joseph S West Virginia
63. Denver - Shon Coleman T Auburn

 

[Risen Star]

Player comps.....

Laremy Tunsil - Trent Williams
Jalen Ramsey - Tyrann Mathieu
Joey Bosa - Jared Allen
Jared Goff - Matt Ryan
Myles Jack - NaVorro Bowman
Carson Wentz- Jesus of Nazareth
Ezekiel Elliott- Frank Gore
Laquon Treadwell - Dez Bryant


QB
Sleeper - Jeff Driskel, Louisiana Tech
Could Disappoint - Christian Hackenberg, Penn St.
Small School Stud - Carson Wentz, North Dakota St.

RB
Sleeper - Tyler Ervin, San Jose St.
Could Disappoint - Derrick Henry, Alabama
Small School Stud - Kenneth Dixon , Louisiana Tech

WR
Sleeper - Rashard Higgins, Colorado St.
Could Disappoint - Corey Coleman, Baylor
Small School Stud - Tajae Sharpe, Massachusetts

TE
Sleeper - Tanner McEvoy, Wisconsin
Could Disappoint - Jerrell Adams, South Carolina
Small School Stud - Ben Braunecker, Harvard

OT
Sleeper - Stephane Nembot, Colorado
Could Disappoint - Germain Ifedi, Texas A&M
Small School Stud - Joe Haeg, North Dakota St.

OG
Sleeper - Ted Karras, Illinois
Could Disappoint - Connor McGovern, Missouri
Small School Stud - Rees Odihiambo, Boise St.

DE
Sleeper - Bronson Kaufusi, BYU
Could Disappoint - Carl Nassib, Penn St.
Small School Stud - James Cowser, Southern Utah

ILB
Sleeper - Antonio Morrison, Florida
Could Disappoint - Scooby Wright, Arizona
Small School Stud - Nick Vigil, Utah St.

OLB
Sleeper - Kamalei Correa, Boise St.
Could Disappoint - Leonard Floyd, Georgia
Small School Stud - Ian Seau, Nevada

CB
Sleeper - Xavien Howard, Baylor
Could Disappoint - Eli Apple, Ohio St.
Small School Stud - Harlan Miller, Southeastern Louisiana

S
Sleeper - Justin Simmons, Boston College
Could Disappoint - Jayron Kearse, Clemson
Small School Stud - Miles Killebrew, Southern Utah

For whatever reason they did not include one of those breakdowns for C or DT.

Class Grade
QB: B
RB: B-
WR: B
TE: C
OT: A+
OG: C
OC: C-

DE: A
DT: A
ILB: C
OLB: B
CB: C
S: C

 

[MrPhil]

Carson Wentz- Jesus of Nazareth

Lol, this never fails to make me laugh......and after the day I have had, thank you.

 

[CWR]

Nice I get one every year. I think it's lindys. Whatever one I get it grades the players 1-10 points. Don't think it really equals to sh@t but for some reason I love those grades.

 

[DAL1180]

Player comps.....

Laremy Tunsil - Trent Williams
Jalen Ramsey - Tyrann Mathieu
Joey Bosa - Jared Allen
Jared Goff - Matt Ryan
Myles Jack - NaVorro Bowman
Carson Wentz- Jesus of Nazareth
Ezekiel Elliott- Frank Gore
Laquon Treadwell - Dez Bryant


QB
Sleeper - Jeff Driskel, Louisiana Tech
Could Disappoint - Christian Hackenberg, Penn St.
Small School Stud - Carson Wentz, North Dakota St.

RB
Sleeper - Tyler Ervin, San Jose St.
Could Disappoint - Derrick Henry, Alabama
Small School Stud - Kenneth Dixon , Louisiana Tech

WR
Sleeper - Rashard Higgins, Colorado St.
Could Disappoint - Corey Coleman, Baylor
Small School Stud - Tajae Sharpe, Massachusetts

TE
Sleeper - Tanner McEvoy, Wisconsin
Could Disappoint - Jerrell Adams, South Carolina
Small School Stud - Ben Braunecker, Harvard

OT
Sleeper - Stephane Nembot, Colorado
Could Disappoint - Germain Ifedi, Texas A&M
Small School Stud - Joe Haeg, North Dakota St.

OG
Sleeper - Ted Karras, Illinois
Could Disappoint - Connor McGovern, Missouri
Small School Stud - Rees Odihiambo, Boise St.

DE
Sleeper - Bronson Kaufusi, BYU
Could Disappoint - Carl Nassib, Penn St.
Small School Stud - James Cowser, Southern Utah

ILB
Sleeper - Antonio Morrison, Florida
Could Disappoint - Scooby Wright, Arizona
Small School Stud - Nick Vigil, Utah St.

OLB
Sleeper - Kamalei Correa, Boise St.
Could Disappoint - Leonard Floyd, Georgia
Small School Stud - Ian Seau, Nevada

CB
Sleeper - Xavien Howard, Baylor
Could Disappoint - Eli Apple, Ohio St.
Small School Stud - Harlan Miller, Southeastern Louisiana

S
Sleeper - Justin Simmons, Boston College
Could Disappoint - Jayron Kearse, Clemson
Small School Stud - Miles Killebrew, Southern Utah

For whatever reason they did not include one of those breakdowns for C or DT.

Class Grade
QB: B
RB: B-
WR: B
TE: C
OT: A+
OG: C
OC: C-

DE: A
DT: A
ILB: C
OLB: B
CB: C
S: C

And once again I'm having to clean up a mess on the floor where I spit out drink laughing at the "Carso Wentz..Jesus of Nazareth" comp.

 

[Alexander]

The Pro Football Weekly one is the one I am looking out for. I think it is at Barnes & Noble this week.

It is now written by ex-Bear personnel scout Greg Gabriel. It seems to be a little different. I know last year the rankings seemed odd, but when draft day rolled around it was pretty true. It is not incendiary like Nawrocki. Very much like an old school cigar chomping scout.

 

[Risen Star]

The Pro Football Weekly one is the one I am looking out for. I think it is at Barnes & Noble this week.

It is now written by ex-Bear personnel scout Greg Gabriel. It seems to be a little different. I know last year the rankings seemed odd, but when draft day rolled around it was pretty true. It is not incendiary like Nawrocki. Very much like an old school cigar chomping scout.

It's supposed to be at B&N but I didn't see it there this week. Maybe next week. It's probably my favorite of the draft mags.

I actually miss the old Sporting News mag with Russ Lande. It was often against the grain.

 

[Risen Star]

One draft magazine I can't seem to like is Corey Chavous' "Draft Nasty". Very weirdly put together.

 

[Alexander]

One draft magazine I can't seem to like is Corey Chavous' "Draft Nasty". Very weirdly put together.

It is awful.

 

[tyke1doe]

I noticed they didn't have Karl Joseph listed among the Top 100 (or maybe I missed it though I perused the list twice), yet they have him being picked in Round 2.

 

[Plankton]

It's supposed to be at B&N but I didn't see it there this week. Maybe next week. It's probably my favorite of the draft mags.

I actually miss the old Sporting News mag with Russ Lande. It was often against the grain.

Lande used to put out a much more detailed guide called GM Jr. His reports were very detailed, and very much against the grain. In 1999, he had Edward Smith from Mississippi State as his top LB and sleeper.

 

[Alexander]

Got the PFW one today at lunch.

Just some observations.

• QB - Lynch is top QB. Wentz is insulted by being listed #3 with a 1-2 round designation. Kevin Hogan is rated 4th. Then Cook and DUI boy. Hackenberg is the tenth rated QB, 6-7 round behind Rudock and Driskel.
• RB - Elliott is tops, of course. Henry 2nd. Then Howard from Indiana. Prosise, Collins, Booker, Dixon.
• WR - Treadwell, then Boyd, Coleman, Doctson, Carroo. Then Cooper, Shepard, Braxton Miller, Will Fuller and then Jalin Marshall. Michael Thomas is the 12th ranked WR.
• TE - The usual Henry, Hooper, Vannett.
• OT - Tunsil at 1, then Decker followed by Stanley. Then Murphy, Conklin, Hawkins and Ifedi. Avery Young at 8, has Shon Coleman as a 3rd-4th player. Biggest shock was Jason Spriggs at #14 with a day three grade.
• OG - Alexander, Dahl, Garnett, Westerman, Drango, then Whitehead. Clearly you can tell he cannot evaluate interior lineman.
• C - Tuerk, Kelly then Nick Martin.
• DE - Bosa, Lawson, Dodd, Kaufusi, Bullard.
• "Edge" - Jaylon Smith of all players, followed by Ogbah, Spence.
• DT - Buckner, Robinson, Nkemdiche, Reed, Clark. Rankins is #10 (4th round) behind Day, Butler, Austin Johnson, Adolphus Washington in that order. Billings is #12.
• OLB - Myles Jack at the top. Followed by Cravens, Lee, Floyd, Striker.
• ILB - Ragland, Brothers, Joshua Perry, nothing weird.
• CB - Ramsey, Hargreaves, Alexander, Burns, Apple. Jackson #9.
• S - Bell, Thompson, Tyvis Powell, Justin Simmons, Jeremy Cash. Kearse was #6. Karl Joseph #9. Neal and Jalen Mills listed "best of the rest" outside the top 12 prospects.

 

[Stash]

They're starting to show up on the shelves. Picked up Lindy's guide today. I figured I'd post their top 100 and their mock. Obviously this was done before FA making the mock pretty meaningless.

Top 100
1. Joey Bosa DE Ohio St.
2. Laremy Tunsil T Mississippi
3. Jalen Ramsey S Florida St.
4. Jared Goff QB California
5. Myles Jack OLB UCLA
6. Laquon Treadwell WR Mississippi
7. Ronnie Stanley T Notre Dame
8. DeForest Buckner DE Oregon
9. A'Shawn Robinson DT Alabama
10. Carson Wentz QB North Dakota St.

11. Mackensie Alexander CB Clemson
12. Ezekiel Elliott RB Ohio St.
13. Shaq Lawson DE Clemson
14. Vernon Hargreaves CB Florida
15. Andrew Billings DT Baylor
16. Reggie Ragland ILB Alabama
17. Darron Lee OLB Ohio St.
18. Robert Nkemdiche DT Mississippi
19. Taylor Decker T Ohio St.
20. Jaylon Smith OLB Notre Dame

21. Jarran Reed DT Alabama
22. Noah Spence DE Eastern Kentucky
23. Corey Coleman WR Baylor
24. Jack Conklin T Michigan St.
25. Sheldon Rankins DT Louisville
26. Jonathan Bullard DE Florida
27. Leonard Floyd OLB Georgia
28. Kevin Dodd DE Clemson
29. Kenny Clark DT UCLA
30. Paxton Lynch QB Memphis

31. Emmanuel Ogbah DE Oklahoma St.
32. Eli Apple CB Ohio St.
33. Vernon Butler DT Louisiana Tech
34. Hunter Henry TE Arkansas
35. Ryan Kelly C Alabama
36. Michael Thomas WR Ohio St.
37. Cody Whitehair G Kansas St.
38. Austin Johnson DT Penn St.
39. Shon Coleman T Auburn
40. Josh Doctson WR TCU

41. Derrick Henry RB Alabama
42. Jason Spriggs T Indiana
43. Will Fuller WR Notre Dame
44. Connor Cook QB Michigan St.
45. Kendall Fuller CB Virginia Tech
46. Braxton Miller WR Ohio St.
47. Darian Thompson S Boise St.
48. Vonn Bell S Ohio St.
49. Vadal Alexander G LSU
50. Joshua Perry OLB Ohio St.

51. Germain Ifedi T Texas A&M
52. Austin Hooper TE Stanford
53. Shilique Calhoun DE Michigan St.
54. Jeremy Cash S Duke
55. Kentrell Brothers ILB Missouri
56. Jalen Mills CB LSU
57. Adolphus Washington DT Ohio St.
58. Tyler Boyd WR Pittsburgh
59. Su'a Cravens OLB USC
60. Alex Collins RB Arkansas

61. Pharoh Cooper WR South Carolina
62. Le'Raven Clark T Texas Tech
63. William Jackson III CB Houston
64. Devontae Booker RB Utah
65. Nick Martin C Notre Dame
66. Roberto Aguayo K Florida St.
67. Landon Turner G North Carolina
68. Carl Nassib DE Penn St.
69. Artie Burns CB Miami
70. Kyler Fackrell OLB Utah St.

71. Christian Hackenberg QB Penn St.
72. Rashard Higgins WR Colorado St.
73. Joshua Garnett G Stanford
74. Chris Jones DT Mississippi St.
75. Kenneth Dixon RB Louisiana Tech
76. Sterling Shepard WR Oklahoma
77. Will Redmond CB Mississippi St.
78. Jerald Hawkins T LSU
79. Bronson Kaufusi DE BYU
80. Miles Killebrew S Southern Utah

81. Christian Westerman G Arizona St.
82. Dominique Alexander ILB Oklahoma
83. Jordan Howard RB Indiana
84. Deion Jones OLB LSU
85. Sebastian Tretola G Arkansas
86. Leonte Carroo WR Rutgers
87. Xavien Howard CB Baylor
88. John Theus T Georgia
89. Sean Davis S Maryland
90. Sheldon Day DT Notre Dame

91. Jonathan Williams RB Arkansas
92. Shawn Oakman DE Baylor
93. Kenny Lawler WR California
94. Jordan Jenkins OLB Georgia
95. Harlan Miller CB Southeastern Louisiana
96. Nick Vannett TE Ohio St.
97. De'Runnya Wilson WR Mississippi St.
98. Kyle Murphy T Stanford
99. Zack Sanchez CB Oklahoma
100. Tyler Matakevich ILB Temple

Thanks for sharing!

 

[Alexander]

Handy bit of advice, don't waste your time with Athlon's magazine.

 

[Risen Star]

Handy bit of advice, don't waste your time with Athlon's magazine.

I already got it. I checked yesterday for the PFW guide and no dice. I might have to just order it online.

 

[Alexander]

I already got it. I checked yesterday for the PFW guide and no dice. I might have to just order it online.

Nolan Nawrocki's book (derivative of Buchbaum's old PFW book) is now out but I have only seen it on Amazon.

 

[Risen Star]

Nolan Nawrocki's book (derivative of Buchbaum's old PFW book) is now out but I have only seen it on Amazon.

I have it ordered. I get a little crazy with these guides. Usually have about 7 or 8 every year.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I have it ordered. I get a little crazy with these guides. Usually have about 7 or 8 every year.

Do you save them?

I still have a few old ones from the mid 90's

Funny to go back and see how everyone thought Heath Shuler was going to be a stud

 

[Risen Star]

Do you save them?

I still have a few old ones from the mid 90's

Funny to go back and see how everyone thought Heath Shuler was going to be a stud

Dude. I'm mentally ill. I have them all. Why? I don't know.

Every time I do a spring cleaning I talk myself into why they're important to keep around.