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b_virtue

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Trade Nuygen and 2nd for Howard

1(11) Trade down to (12) with San Diego and get 2(61)
1(12) Derrick Johnson (OLB)
1(20) Trade down to (25) with Denver and get 2(56)
1(25) Trade down to (31) with Philly and get 3(77)
1(31) Channing Crowder (ILB)
2(56) Elton Brown (G)
2(61) Anttaj Hawthorne (DT)
3(77) Brodney Pool (FS)

this gives us a future DT starter, 2 solid LB's, a (G) for the future who we may beed this year and our FS to pair up with Roy.
 

Duane

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Too many trades and why would SD give up a 2nd round pick for a one spot move?
 

cobra

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I really don't think people understand the concept of trading draft picks.

For instance, here we have a guy who thinks that San Diego would make the following trade (with pick value in parentheses)

#11 (1250)
for
#12 (1200)
#61 (292)

For the #12 and #61, he could move up to the 7th pick. Or to move from #12 to #11, he could give up a late 4th rounder. No team will give up a 1st and a 2nd to move up one spot to #11 in the draft. To suggest that a team would shows a clear misunderstanding of the concept of value.

Of course, there are others who think the draft value chart is a rule as opposed to guidance. These are the people who assume that because 11 is "worth" 1250 that we could trade down for any two picks that would add up to 1250. These types of people assume that the decision to trade is the Cowboys. As if the Cowboys could force a trade down merely because of the pick value chart. Such a belief is equally as stupid. The other team has to want to trade and have a reason for it.

So here is my advice to you people who want to start talking about trading draft picks: First decide if Team A wants to move up because there is someone they want. Then decide if Team B wants to move down because there is someone they want that they can get at the lower spot and pick up a pick. Then decide if the trade value of what Team A offers is REASONABLY CLOSE to what Team B offers. It doesn't have to be exact. A team might give up more a bit more than the trade value chart suggests if there is a person they really desire that they are going after. Or a team might demand more to trade to their picks because they want someone. Or a team might be willing to trade down for less than equal value because there really isn't anyone they want and could use the extra pick.

So, before people talk about trading up and down with draft picks, make your suggested trade make sense FROM BOTH TEAMS PERSPECTIVES.
 

MiStar

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Instead of being impossibly specific, throw out the idea of moving down a couple of spaces. Talk about the number of picks in each round that you are looking for and who your targets would be in those rounds.

Some of the trades being posted are downright laughable.

For instance:

I don't see a big difference between the top DE, so if we get an offer to trade down to a spot where we can pick up one of those DE's and pick up a second, I'd be all over it.

Simply number crunching and slapping down names doesn't add anything constructive to the draft discussion.
 
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