Draft: Let's be realistic

[OmerV]

So many here saying Cowboys had a bad draft while every media source says it was B+ or better. Obviously media can be wrong too, but all giving the draft a strong grade can’t just be brushed aside as meaningless.

Did Cowboys address every need? No. Were the needs addressed all done so with the ideal player? Again, no.

Is that really the expectation? If so, it’s unrealistic.

Sure some could argue (and did) we needed to draft a RB higher. Or a big DT. Many have specific players they are upset Cowboys passed on. Complaints are all over the board as to what the Cowboys messed up, and all that complain think their take on what was bungled is the right one.

Obviously the myriad of takes on what was messed up can’t all be right, no matter how sure each person is of themselves.

Ultimately we have to be realistic about the draft. It can’t cure all things, it can’t make ever fan happy, and it is not an exact science where the players chosen carry any guarantees, good or bad.

 

[TheCritic]

You might be surprised that there are quite a few of us that actually like the unsexy trenches approach we took this year. Go study the draft profiles. Looks like we are going to be a more physically and mentally tough team than we were during the McCarthy era/

 

[CATCH17]

You might be surprised that there are quite a few of us that actually like the unsexy trenches approach we took this year. Go study the draft profiles. Looks like we are going to be a more physically and mentally tough team than we were during the McCarthy era/

We had a good draft.

We took some nuts and bolts.

Problem is we have no fire power to really compete.

The RB we got, even if he is Jahmyr Gibbs exactly, is still a complimentary piece.

 

[Aven8]

While I was the biggest proclaimer on here about getting a RB in the 2nd, Henderson and Judkins went right before our pick. We made the right choice in going with EZ.

They also wanted Tet in the first but Carolina took him. I’m glad they didn’t reach later just to grab one.

I’m just glad we at least double dipped in the RB department finally. Are they that great? Time will tell. But you can’t talk all offseason about running the ball and then add nothing.

Double dipping at DT was fun as well. You never know who’s going to stick with those guys. You have Mazi with all the talent in the world, and Jay Ratliffs of the world that just spark.

 

[TheCritic]

We had a good draft.

We took some nuts and bolts.

Problem is we have no fire power to really compete.

The RB we got, even if he is Jahmyr Gibbs exactly, is still a complimentary piece.

I hear you, but I'm among those that wasn't expecting to fill enough holes to compete with the Eagles or even the Commanders this season. The Eagles draft, 5 top picks all going on defense tells me they are serious about repeating.

But still a good foundation for the Cowboys. I'll take it!

 

[Hardline]

I don't grade draft classes for 3 years.
However, The last 29 draft classes didn't result in a Super Bowl.
I doubt this one does either.

 

[CATCH17]

I hear you, but I'm among those that wasn't expecting to fill enough holes to compete with the Eagles or even the Commanders this season. The Eagles draft, 5 top picks all going on defense tells me they are serious about repeating.

But still a good foundation for the Cowboys. I'll take it!

Yeah.. We aren’t competing for anything real this year unless Philly gets decimated with injuries.

We laid a foundation to build off of going forward.

If the Cowboys want to skip the line so to say they have to make trades for legit players or sign legit players in free agency.

 

[NotaCowboysFan]

First three picks I consider a good draft. All players should eventually become starters. As for the rest of the draft, I dunno it’s whatever. But no one should be disappointed with day one and two. I get taking a guard at #12 overall is not great value but I think their next two picks went after they should have so it kind of makes up for it. 5th and after are just guys you hope make the team and can contribute, anyone thinking elsewise is being a complete homer.

 

[Sarek]

Well if being realistic is the theme, then lets be truthful about it.

Does it matter who got drafted when Jerry is there to mess it all up?

If Jerry went MIA for a season/playoffs/SB, that would be the greatest draft pick of all.

Maybe that's too much realistic.

 

[nobody]

So many here saying Cowboys had a bad draft while every media source says it was B+ or better. Obviously media can be wrong too, but all giving the draft a strong grade can’t just be brushed aside as meaningless.

Did Cowboys address every need? No. Were the needs addressed all done so with the ideal player? Again, no.

Is that really the expectation? If so, it’s unrealistic.

Sure some could argue (and did) we needed to draft a RB higher. Or a big DT. Many have specific players they are upset Cowboys passed on. Complaints are all over the board as to what the Cowboys messed up, and all that complain think their take on what was bungled is the right one.

Obviously the myriad of takes on what was messed up can’t all be right, no matter how sure each person is of themselves.

Ultimately we have to be realistic about the draft. It can’t cure all things, it can’t make ever fan happy, and it is not an exact science where the players chosen carry any guarantees, good or bad.

I give them a preliminary B+ to A-. That can go up or down after seeing training camp and how they play in the regular season. The only pick I didn't really like was the CB pick in the third. Sure, he's a great talent, but another knee injury player? Really? When WR's are turning and juking on dimes we wanted another knee problem CB to cover them? SMH.

 

[BrassCowboy]

You might be surprised that there are quite a few of us that actually like the unsexy trenches approach we took this year. Go study the draft profiles. Looks like we are going to be a more physically and mentally tough team than we were during the McCarthy era/

AND there are some (I will even say many), my self included, here who said yeah lets get that much much needed WR and RB in first 3 rounds, only to come to a realization that the guys they got there were absolute GREAT picks. Even after Booker, I was like "good pick and hey we can still get our WR and RB", then when DE was picked, I was like "another really great guy for the value and we can get a great RB in Kaleb Johnson/Dylan Sampson at #76", well when #76 was getting close I said "wow Revel is still there, no way in all heck do you let him get away. You pick him"

Sure enough they did, still got a good RB amongst other guys who will help in the trenches later in the draft. It was a very good draft. Just have to take a step back, breathe, and be honest in your evaluation. Been a long time it seems that we had this good a draft. We will see, but looks good.

 

[rambo2]

So many here saying Cowboys had a bad draft while every media source says it was B+ or better. Obviously media can be wrong too, but all giving the draft a strong grade can’t just be brushed aside as meaningless.

Did Cowboys address every need? No. Were the needs addressed all done so with the ideal player? Again, no.

Is that really the expectation? If so, it’s unrealistic.

Sure some could argue (and did) we needed to draft a RB higher. Or a big DT. Many have specific players they are upset Cowboys passed on. Complaints are all over the board as to what the Cowboys messed up, and all that complain think their take on what was bungled is the right one.

Obviously the myriad of takes on what was messed up can’t all be right, no matter how sure each person is of themselves.

Ultimately we have to be realistic about the draft. It can’t cure all things, it can’t make ever fan happy, and it is not an exact science where the players chosen carry any guarantees, good or bad.

They had an outstanding draft. It's possible that they drafted the best guard, the best edge rusher, the best corner, and a back that can score from anywhere on the field on the ground and through the air.

 

[Rockport]

So many here saying Cowboys had a bad draft while every media source says it was B+ or better. Obviously media can be wrong too, but all giving the draft a strong grade can’t just be brushed aside as meaningless.

Did Cowboys address every need? No. Were the needs addressed all done so with the ideal player? Again, no.

Is that really the expectation? If so, it’s unrealistic.

Sure some could argue (and did) we needed to draft a RB higher. Or a big DT. Many have specific players they are upset Cowboys passed on. Complaints are all over the board as to what the Cowboys messed up, and all that complain think their take on what was bungled is the right one.

Obviously the myriad of takes on what was messed up can’t all be right, no matter how sure each person is of themselves.

Ultimately we have to be realistic about the draft. It can’t cure all things, it can’t make ever fan happy, and it is not an exact science where the players chosen carry any guarantees, good or bad.

The majority of the ones complaining are those that complain about EVERYTHING NO MATTER WHAT IT IS. In other words, not the types you want your daughter to have anything to do with.

 

[bigE79]

I don't grade draft classes for 3 years.
However, The last 29 draft classes didn't result in a Super Bowl.
I doubt this one does either.

Sad but probably true,and the stiff behind center does nothing to inspire confidence..jmo

 

[Ranching]

So many here saying Cowboys had a bad draft while every media source says it was B+ or better. Obviously media can be wrong too, but all giving the draft a strong grade can’t just be brushed aside as meaningless.

Did Cowboys address every need? No. Were the needs addressed all done so with the ideal player? Again, no.

Is that really the expectation? If so, it’s unrealistic.

Sure some could argue (and did) we needed to draft a RB higher. Or a big DT. Many have specific players they are upset Cowboys passed on. Complaints are all over the board as to what the Cowboys messed up, and all that complain think their take on what was bungled is the right one.

Obviously the myriad of takes on what was messed up can’t all be right, no matter how sure each person is of themselves.

Ultimately we have to be realistic about the draft. It can’t cure all things, it can’t make ever fan happy, and it is not an exact science where the players chosen carry any guarantees, good or bad.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts....good stuff.

 

[blueblood70]

So many here saying Cowboys had a bad draft while every media source says it was B+ or better. Obviously media can be wrong too, but all giving the draft a strong grade can’t just be brushed aside as meaningless.

Did Cowboys address every need? No. Were the needs addressed all done so with the ideal player? Again, no.

Is that really the expectation? If so, it’s unrealistic.

Sure some could argue (and did) we needed to draft a RB higher. Or a big DT. Many have specific players they are upset Cowboys passed on. Complaints are all over the board as to what the Cowboys messed up, and all that complain think their take on what was bungled is the right one.

Obviously the myriad of takes on what was messed up can’t all be right, no matter how sure each person is of themselves.

Ultimately we have to be realistic about the draft. It can’t cure all things, it can’t make ever fan happy, and it is not an exact science where the players chosen carry any guarantees, good or bad.

sorry B+++++ And I hope this triggers you seriously if you look at it it doesn't make sense unless you piece it together with the free agent acquisitions it doesn't seem like much but they seem to have a vision and a plan and they're putting it together I know you don't think so but I have to disagree i'm gonna give it a chance that means watch all 17 games and then we can have this discussion at the end of the year and I still think they're gonna add people there's gonna be a trade for a wide receiver or they're gonna bring a guy over like Keenan Allen or Amari Cooper something's gonna happen hell they can even bring over Breeze Hall still we don't know so why don't you can the negativity until you see the cut downs until we're leading in say 10 days going into game one in September and then we can have a real conversation because in my opinion you're a little too fast on the trigger to be negative act like we didn't do absolutely anything if you look at the deep part we're not looking at candy you know I candy we're not looking at Quick Trich fan satisfying pics we're looking at trenches we're looking at trying to make the team better even if you think we didn't improve our weaknesses..

Back like the off season did nothing are you trying to tell me that Dante Fowler bringing his 10 1/2 sacks back here doesn't help and then draft a dude that had 16 1/2 sacks last year and to bring over a former first round guy Turner may turn out to be nothing but he can also turn out to be something I like the linebacker room before the draft I do not like and the only part of the draft I do not like


Was them trading back up I don't remember it was the 5th round and picking that Florida linebacker it made no sense because they could have got 2 for 1 they probably could have got him anyway but they wasted an opportunity to get another player that's the only part of the draft I don't like the rest of it I understand because if you look at it with the big picture a lot of it fits maybe none of these guys will workout but maybe a lot of them will maybe you don't know what scouts know maybe you don't know what the pro coaches had in mind when they wanted to build this team maybe they're doubling down on some of these defensive tackles and these offensive lineman and they're going to make sure they come out of training camp with the best group they can possibly come out with.


Dude you gotta admit first of all you you could be down on last year all you want until you admit injuries were the biggest problem not the lack of offseason moves not the lack of draftees not the lack of bringing in Derek Henry this team was doomed when it had 18 injuries just like San Francisco you're not going to win games when you have catastrophic injuries across the board all over your team the key injuries and not only to one part of a group but an entire group wiped out our corners and and our pass rocers and linebackers just got wiped out.

So those three 12 win seasons that got two division titles in 36 wins three playoff appearances in a row we had that type of offseason we had that type of draft if you can avoid having that kind of injury late in season then we're going to be better if you can win 7 games with basically a practice squad you're trying to tell me the things they've done up to this point with still five months to go we're not going to be improved like not at all is that what you're trying to tell me that's okay you have an opinion you know allow you to have one but I have mine I think this is AB plus draft it is AB plus offseason so far with a lot of room to grow and I'm not saying it's our year i'm not saying we're making an NFC championship game i'm not saying we're going to the Super Bowl i'm just trying to tell you that I do see that they have a plan and they're trying to get the pieces to fulfill it..
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[Pompey-Cowboy]

We couldn't possibly fill all our needs with 9 draft picks but it was a pretty good draft (probably). Only time will tell.

 

[RS12]

Anybody who is 'realistic" is well aware the team is in a rebuild and one draft wont do it. Need at least two more solid drafts to begin with.

 

[Whyjerry]

So many here saying Cowboys had a bad draft while every media source says it was B+ or better. Obviously media can be wrong too, but all giving the draft a strong grade can’t just be brushed aside as meaningless.

Did Cowboys address every need? No. Were the needs addressed all done so with the ideal player? Again, no.

Is that really the expectation? If so, it’s unrealistic.

Sure some could argue (and did) we needed to draft a RB higher. Or a big DT. Many have specific players they are upset Cowboys passed on. Complaints are all over the board as to what the Cowboys messed up, and all that complain think their take on what was bungled is the right one.

Obviously the myriad of takes on what was messed up can’t all be right, no matter how sure each person is of themselves.

Ultimately we have to be realistic about the draft. It can’t cure all things, it can’t make ever fan happy, and it is not an exact science where the players chosen carry any guarantees, good or bad.

It was a good draft. The issue is this team has been a joke for 30 years and there were / are too many holes to fill with this draft. Not enough premium picks. Good draft. It will help but this team is not close to be championship quality.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Did Cowboys address every need? No.

The Cowboys went into the draft with only 10 picks not 20.