Draft May Go On but Undrafted Players Will Sit

[SDogo]

We sit here and find out how things will change now that there is a lockout and another one I never considered was the mass of UDFA's that will be sitting at home after the draft unemployed trying to figure out their future.

It appears with the current set up that like FA's if a deal is not reached by the draft teams will not be allowed to contact or sign any of the prospects who were not chose in the 7 rounds of the NFL draft.

That's a lot of talent sitting and waiting.

 

[5Stars]

We sit here and find out how things will change now that there is a lockout and another one I never considered was the mass of UDFA's that will be sitting at home after the draft unemployed trying to figure out their future.

It appears with the current set up that like FA's if a deal is not reached by the draft teams will not be allowed to contact or sign any of the prospects who were not chose in the 7 rounds of the NFL draft.

That's a lot of talent sitting and waiting


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:laugh2:

 

[speedkilz88]

Canada takes advantage?

 

[5Stars]

Canada takes advantage?

Well yeah! You got to throw a bone to your little sister now and then...

:laugh2:

 

[cowboyjoe]

We sit here and find out how things will change now that there is a lockout and another one I never considered was the mass of UDFA's that will be sitting at home after the draft unemployed trying to figure out their future.

It appears with the current set up that like FA's if a deal is not reached by the draft teams will not be allowed to contact or sign any of the prospects who were not chose in the 7 rounds of the NFL draft.

That's a lot of talent sitting and waiting.

yeah, and do the players care, NO, all they want is their money,

shows that they didnt think this thing out

1st, walked away from meeting with a very good offer on the table, with even less workouts, etc, along with more health benefits for former players,

that shows u the players didnt care about the former players at all, were the players thinking about the fans, when they were trying to declare the NFL draft illegal or whatever, saying that violates antitrust laws, NO, the players didnt care a bleep about the players, just wanted to stick it to the owners, like De Smith did

number one issue with the players and NFLPA has been show us the books, but the players didnt come up with any other counter proposals, while the owners met some of their demands, did the players try to compromise and meet the owenrs and NFL< NO!

show us the books, their number one theme

just like Hos posted an article about some former college players wanting to try out for coaches, scouts, they cant because of no CBA, again players dont give a darn about anyone but themselves,

we all know, bottom line, the players at the top of the food chain, are going to get most of the money when a new cba is singed, not the lower players, or former players,

and at same time, the fans will have to foot the bill, through higher television viewing prices, tickets, parking, food at games, etc...

are the players thinking how us the fans get stuck with that, NO!

they just want their money, they could care less about the fans or former players, their the ones that walked away from the table

 

[SDogo]

:laugh2:

With all due respect, take a look at our roster.

 

[silverbear]

Well yeah! You got to throw a bone to your little sister now and then...

:laugh2:

That's the single sickest thing I've ever read in here...

 

[Picksix]

yeah, and do the players care, NO, all they want is their money,

shows that they didnt think this thing out

1st, walked away from meeting with a very good offer on the table, with even less workouts, etc, along with more health benefits for former players,

that shows u the players didnt care about the former players at all, were the players thinking about the fans, when they were trying to declare the NFL draft illegal or whatever, saying that violates antitrust laws, NO, the players didnt care a bleep about the players, just wanted to stick it to the owners, like De Smith did

number one issue with the players and NFLPA has been show us the books, but the players didnt come up with any other counter proposals, while the owners met some of their demands, did the players try to compromise and meet the owenrs and NFL< NO!

show us the books, their number one theme

just like Hos posted an article about some former college players wanting to try out for coaches, scouts, they cant because of no CBA, again players dont give a darn about anyone but themselves,

we all know, bottom line, the players at the top of the food chain, are going to get most of the money when a new cba is singed, not the lower players, or former players,

and at same time, the fans will have to foot the bill, through higher television viewing prices, tickets, parking, food at games, etc...

are the players thinking how us the fans get stuck with that, NO!

they just want their money, they could care less about the fans or former players, their the ones that walked away from the table

I agree with you, Joe. I think once the players won the "lockout insurance" suit, they 1) felt they had a lot more leverage, and 2) turned this whole thing into a pissing match. I feel the owners screwed up by counting on that TV money, and trying to use that as leverage on their side, but since then, they seem to be the ones trying to make a legit deal. But it appears as if the players feel they can just take everything to Judge Daddy - I mean Doty - and he'll give them whatever they want.

 

[Randy White]

We sit here and find out how things will change now that there is a lockout and another one I never considered was the mass of UDFA's that will be sitting at home after the draft unemployed trying to figure out their future. It appears with the current set up that like FA's if a deal is not reached by the draft teams will not be allowed to contact or sign any of the prospects who were not chose in the 7 rounds of the NFL draft. That's a lot of talent sitting and waiting.

True, but realistically speaking, we all know that the % of those guys who make NFL rosters every year ( and stick, including practice squads ) is miniscule. Yes, I know the Cowboys have been one of the very few teams who have done an excellent job in finding talent in that area, but they're in a very small group of teams.

 

[BIGDen]

With all due respect, take a look at our roster.

I know, seriously. If a Cowboys fan doesn't appreciate how important/talented undrafted FAs can be then I don't even know what to say.

 

[SDogo]

True, but realistically speaking, we all know that the % of those guys who make NFL rosters every year ( and stick, including practice squads ) is miniscule. Yes, I know the Cowboys have been one of the very few teams who have done an excellent job in finding talent in that area, but they're in a very small group of teams.

Your also forgetting the importance of finding the right guys to piece together a training camp roster.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Your also forgetting the importance of finding the right guys to piece together a training camp roster.

To me a big part of enjoying the whole draft experience is the sifting through and signing of the undrafted free agents.

Now that's being taken away.

 

[jimmy40]

We sit here and find out how things will change now that there is a lockout and another one I never considered was the mass of UDFA's that will be sitting at home after the draft unemployed trying to figure out their future.

so they use that free education they got while in college and get a real job.

 

[DanteEXT]

True, but realistically speaking, we all know that the % of those guys who make NFL rosters every year ( and stick, including practice squads ) is miniscule. Yes, I know the Cowboys have been one of the very few teams who have done an excellent job in finding talent in that area, but they're in a very small group of teams.

According to the site, the 2009 league average of undrafted players on NFL rosters was 27.89% (or 15 players).

Now, is this site correct in it's research AND do those averages hold year in year out.... I don't know.

 

[DanteEXT]

Was just thinkning about something. Say this CBA thing doesn't get resolved for awhile, how many undrafted players do you think will try to play in the UFL?

 

[big dog cowboy]

If a Cowboys fan doesn't appreciate how important/talented undrafted FAs can be then I don't even know what to say.

 

[perrykemp]

According to the site, the 2009 league average of undrafted players on NFL rosters was 27.89% (or 15 players).

Now, is this site correct in it's research AND do those averages hold year in year out.... I don't know.

Packers had 4 superbowl starters (counting the nickle back since the Packers play the 2-4-5 primarily) who were Undrafted FAs:

• Sam Shields
• Tramon Williams
• Frank Zombo
• Cullen Jenkins

Undrafted Free Agents are CRITICAL to a team's success.

 

[johnnyd]

I dont know about you guys but im at the point where it really doesnt suprise me when a undrafted kid or late round pick becomes a good player anymore. The media and casual fan may enjoy being reminded that tom brady was a 6th round pick! every 10 seconds but im numb to it.

We all know the draft is a crapshoot and guy's fall through the cracks. It happens EVERY year.

 

[Randy White]

Your also forgetting the importance of finding the right guys to piece together a training camp roster.

Perhaps, but, again, we're talking about at best a small amount of players ( 10-15 per team ) who's career will be extended by those couple of months of camp and pre-season at best.

Besides, the scouts and coaches are still under contract. There's nothing that's preventing them from creating a list of players they need to target and have it ready for when the CBA is signed. As a matter of fact, now they might have more time to put more evaluating time on this cats since they don't have to be in a hurry to sign them before other teams do.

And, as you know, teams deal with this players reps all the time ( and talk about players all the time, even if they can't ), which is how they're able to show up at midnight ( on the date that free agency open ) at players doors with contracts ready for them sign that have everything both sides want.

 

[Randy White]

According to the site, the 2009 league average of undrafted players on NFL rosters was 27.89% (or 15 players).

Now, is this site correct in it's research AND do those averages hold year in year out.... I don't know.

That's the key right there. It's not that undrafted free agents don't stick, is that the overwhelming majority of them don't. The 28% of rosters represent UDFA overall, not every year.

I'd be surprise if that annual % is greater than 5%.

Let's say that the average of UDFA signed by teams in any particular year is 15 for arguments sake. 15x32= 480. 5% of 480 is 26, or approx an average of 1 new UDFA per team " annually ". That sounds a little low, but not by much.