Draft Myth

[Sully]

Look no further why the Cowboys look bad. THE DRAFT. When a time throws a truckload of cash to a QB that doesn't elevate his team. Has no rushing attack ( dead last in the NFL) , Is having trouble protecting the QB and is dead last stopping the run.

This team wants to build through the draft. FINE. You damn well be a superior drafting team then. The last (2) 1st rd picks is looking to be a bust. Mazi Smith is DEAD last
119/119 as a NT. Absolutely an BUST ( so far). Guyton continues to get beat, every week and is struggling, ( along with the rest of the OL, to create rushing lanes)

Then look at the past 2nd rd picks. More of the same. And you see why this team is whirling down the toilet bowl.

But keep selling that " this team is loaded with talent" as has been the sales pitch for 30 years now.

 

[Aven8]

When you’re picking in the 20’s it becomes more difficult. Add in the fact of drafting previous coaches pet projects, and 25 year old TE’s and it starts to show its ugly head.

 

[Chasing6]

Look no further why the Cowboys look bad. THE DRAFT. When a time throws a truckload of cash to a QB that doesn't elevate his team. Has no rushing attack ( dead last in the NFL) , Is having trouble protecting the QB and is dead last stopping the run.

This team wants to build through the draft. FINE. You damn well be a superior drafting team then. The last (2) 1st rd picks is looking to be a bust. Mazi Smith is DEAD last
119/119 as a NT. Absolutely an BUST ( so far). Guyton continues to get beat, every week and is struggling, ( along with the rest of the OL, to create rushing lanes)

Then look at the past 2nd rd picks. More of the same. And you see why this team is whirling down the toilet bowl.

But keep selling that " this team is loaded with talent" as has been the sales pitch for 30 years now.

You can not draft the best player available when you have glaring holes that were not filled in FA.

The combination of letting multiple starters/rotational players leave, with the mindset of unproven 2nd year and rookies would make us a better team is beyond senile.

 

[Kingofholland]

Look no further why the Cowboys look bad. THE DRAFT. When a time throws a truckload of cash to a QB that doesn't elevate his team. Has no rushing attack ( dead last in the NFL) , Is having trouble protecting the QB and is dead last stopping the run.

This team wants to build through the draft. FINE. You damn well be a superior drafting team then. The last (2) 1st rd picks is looking to be a bust. Mazi Smith is DEAD last
119/119 as a NT. Absolutely an BUST ( so far). Guyton continues to get beat, every week and is struggling, ( along with the rest of the OL, to create rushing lanes)

Then look at the past 2nd rd picks. More of the same. And you see why this team is whirling down the toilet bowl.

But keep selling that " this team is loaded with talent" as has been the sales pitch for 30 years now.

The Cowboys have mostly done a good job drafting over the last decade, but you're right the last couple drafts have been on a downward trend in terms of immediate impact. We needed to fill holes in free agency or find upgrades and have neglected certain positions.

Not to mention we've seen some really poor coaching.

 

[Chasing6]

Look no further why the Cowboys look bad. THE DRAFT. When a time throws a truckload of cash to a QB that doesn't elevate his team. Has no rushing attack ( dead last in the NFL) , Is having trouble protecting the QB and is dead last stopping the run.

This team wants to build through the draft. FINE. You damn well be a superior drafting team then. The last (2) 1st rd picks is looking to be a bust. Mazi Smith is DEAD last
119/119 as a NT. Absolutely an BUST ( so far). Guyton continues to get beat, every week and is struggling, ( along with the rest of the OL, to create rushing lanes)

Then look at the past 2nd rd picks. More of the same. And you see why this team is whirling down the toilet bowl.

But keep selling that " this team is loaded with talent" as has been the sales pitch for 30 years now.

It starts with Jerry, it all starts with Jerry.

 

[atlantacowboy]

PFF ranks us 31st in defense and 28th in offense. What a Sht show

 

[Cowboys5217]

McClay is the most overrated Jerry "yes man". The drafts haven't been nearly as great as some like to pretend they are. If they were then we would have something in the playoffs to show for it.

 

[NDGAEDE]

When you’re picking in the 20’s it becomes more difficult. Add in the fact of drafting previous coaches pet projects, and 25 year old TE’s and it starts to show its ugly head.

One of the biggest problems is they lock themselves into drafting certain positions because they have higher paid guys at the same position whose salary they want to shed. It always comes down to Jerry or Stephen forcing picks because of their mismanagement of free agency and the cap.

 

[Coogiguy03]

Might as well just make trades

 

[TwentyOne]

Look no further why the Cowboys look bad. THE DRAFT. When a time throws a truckload of cash to a QB that doesn't elevate his team. Has no rushing attack ( dead last in the NFL) , Is having trouble protecting the QB and is dead last stopping the run.

This team wants to build through the draft. FINE. You damn well be a superior drafting team then. The last (2) 1st rd picks is looking to be a bust. Mazi Smith is DEAD last
119/119 as a NT. Absolutely an BUST ( so far). Guyton continues to get beat, every week and is struggling, ( along with the rest of the OL, to create rushing lanes)

Then look at the past 2nd rd picks. More of the same. And you see why this team is whirling down the toilet bowl.

But keep selling that " this team is loaded with talent" as has been the sales pitch for 30 years now.

We are not a good drafting team.

This is a myth held up by the Joneses. So they can sell their "strategy" to build thru the draft.

We had some good drafts back when Garrett was HC. With Garrett the approach changed. Garrett left what stayed is the meme that we build thru the draft.
With Garrett that what never the case. But the Joneses dont know how to build a team and now sell this as their strategy.

I also think that Will McClay is overrated. But to be fair that is hard to tell.
I dont know how much the problem is the scouting and evaluation process. Or the decission making during draft time.

 

[HungryLion]

The drafting has been bad the last couple of years and it’s definitely hurting the team.

Let’s look at the “premium” picks the last few years. Round 1-3


This past draft is an incomplete as it’s still too early.

2024: still too early to grade anything. But as of right now you’re not getting much from it. Between guyton struggling and kneeland getting hurt.

Laiafau and Beebe are starters/contributing at least.

2023:
Mazi- bust
Schoonmaker-bust
Overshown-starter/good player.

2022:

Tyler smith-home run
Sam Williams: has done nothing, now a torn ACL. He’s well on his way to bust territory.
Jalen Tolbert-scrub

2021:
Micah-home run pick
Kelvin Joseph- lol bust
Osa- solid pick for a 3rd rounder. A starter
Chauncey Golston- an ok backup. But nothing more. Gives basically nothing as a pass rusher at DE.
Nahshon Wright- bust.



The drafting the last 4 years isn’t very good.

Damn sure not good enough to maintain a competitive team when you do nothing in free agency.

 

[Chasing6]

The drafting has been bad the last couple of years and it’s definitely hurting the team.

Let’s look at the “premium” picks the last few years. Round 1-3


This past draft is an incomplete as it’s still too early.

2024: still too early to grade anything. But as of right now you’re not getting much from it. Between guyton struggling and kneeland getting hurt.

Laiafau and Beebe are starters/contributing at least.

2023:
Mazi- bust
Schoonmaker-bust
Overshown-starter/good player.

2022:

Tyler smith-home run
Sam Williams: has done nothing, now a torn ACL. He’s well on his way to bust territory.
Jalen Tolbert-scrub

2021:
Micah-home run pick
Kelvin Joseph- lol bust
Osa- solid pick for a 3rd rounder. A starter
Chauncey Golston- an ok backup. But nothing more. Gives basically nothing as a pass rusher at DE.
Nahshon Wright- bust.



The drafting the last 4 years isn’t very good.

Damn sure not good enough to maintain a competitive team when you do nothing in free agency.

Micah was obviously the best player available when we made that pick. Can you make that argument for anyone else?

 

[Flamma]

Building through the draft is fine. If it was 1975. But FA is a thing, and a lot of teams take advantage of it. Jerry put his team at a competitive disadvantage by ignoring the talent there. Other teams don't ignore it. It's like taking a sail boat to Europe while others fly. Sorry I'm late.

 

[Chasing6]

Building through the draft is fine. If it was 1975. But FA is a thing, and a lot of teams take advantage of it. Jerry put his team at a competitive disadvantage by ignoring the talent there. Other teams don't ignore it. It's like taking a sail boat to Europe while others fly. Sorry I'm late.

Jerry is saving money by not have NFL Scouts. He only pays scouts for college and Europe.

 

[Jenky]

The drafting has been bad the last couple of years and it’s definitely hurting the team.

Let’s look at the “premium” picks the last few years. Round 1-3


This past draft is an incomplete as it’s still too early.

2024: still too early to grade anything. But as of right now you’re not getting much from it. Between guyton struggling and kneeland getting hurt.

Laiafau and Beebe are starters/contributing at least.

2023:
Mazi- bust
Schoonmaker-bust
Overshown-starter/good player.

2022:

Tyler smith-home run
Sam Williams: has done nothing, now a torn ACL. He’s well on his way to bust territory.
Jalen Tolbert-scrub

2021:
Micah-home run pick
Kelvin Joseph- lol bust
Osa- solid pick for a 3rd rounder. A starter
Chauncey Golston- an ok backup. But nothing more. Gives basically nothing as a pass rusher at DE.
Nahshon Wright- bust.



The drafting the last 4 years isn’t very good.

Damn sure not good enough to maintain a competitive team when you do nothing in free agency.

Noted but you are forgetting Bland

 

[Chasing6]

Noted but you are forgetting Bland

They had the bye week to move Guyton to RT and Smith to LT. This would have at least given Dak some more time to throw the ball.

 

[fivetwos]

You can not draft the best player available when you have glaring holes that were not filled in FA.

The combination of letting multiple starters/rotational players leave, with the mindset of unproven 2nd year and rookies would make us a better team is beyond senile.

What blows my mind is regardless of what anyone thinks…their way of doing things does NOT work, yet they strut around arrogantly as if it’s some genius method and that the idea of change is ridiculous.

Failure is one thing. Many teams do. This is something else.

 

[HungryLion]

Noted but you are forgetting Bland

I’m just covering the first 3 rounds.

They nailed the Bland pick. But let’s be honest. Most of the late rounders never pan out. Most of them are off the team already.

Relying on late round picks to be contributors or starters is a fools errand until you actually see them play in the NFL. Relying on them is not sound strategy.

 

[DandyDon52]

Building through the draft is fine. If it was 1975. But FA is a thing, and a lot of teams take advantage of it. Jerry put his team at a competitive disadvantage by ignoring the talent there. Other teams don't ignore it. It's like taking a sail boat to Europe while others fly. Sorry I'm late.

There are 3 ways to get players.
1.draft
2.trades
3.FA

Jones boys only use 1 of those for team building !
So with 3 tools to use, they only use 1.

Another thing is you can draft good players you dont need then trade them for more than you gave for them.
Jimmy did this with that one qb, he wound up trading him for more pick value than he gave for him initially.

That is the bad thing about having 2 amateurs (the jones boys) with lifetime jobs they are not qualified to do.

 

[Chasing6]

There are 3 ways to get players.
1.draft
2.trades
3.FA

Jones boys only use 1 of those for team building !
So with 3 tools to use, they only use 1.

Another thing is you can draft good players you dont need then trade them for more than you gave for them.
Jimmy did this with that one qb, he wound up trading him for more pick value than he gave for him initially.

That is the bad thing about having 2 amateurs (the jones boys) with lifetime jobs they are not qualified to do.

Or draft players to replace the ones on your roster that are asking for way to much money.

Trade them and the money saved can then be used in FA.

Spending money is spending money. What difference does it make if it is for a FA or an extension for an existing player.