Draft Order Updated

[Hostile]

1. San Francisco 49ers, 1-9, .500
2. Miami Dolphins, 1-9, .590

3. Washington Commanders, 3-7, .490
4. Carolina Panthers, 3-7, .540
5. Dallas Cowboys, 3-7, .560 * subject to coin flip
6. Oakland Raiders, 3-7, .560 * subject to coin flip
7. Kansas City Chiefs, 3-7, .590
8. Cleveland Browns, 3-7, .630

9. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 4-6, .440
10. Arizona Cardinals, 4-6, .460 * subject to coin flip
11. New Orleans Saints, 4-6, .460 * subject to coin flip
12. Chicago Bears, 4-6, .490
13. Tennessee Titans, 4-6, .510
14. Cincinnati Bengals, 4-6, .530 * subject to coin flip
15. Houston Texans, 4-6, .530 * subject to coin flip
16. Detroit Lions, 4-6, .540
17. Buffalo Bills, 4-6, .580 (Cowboys own selection)

18. St. Louis Rams, 5-5, .470
19. New York Giants, 5-5, .500 (Chargers own selection)

20. Seattle Seahawks, 6-4, .370
21. Green Bay Packers, 6-4, .430
22. Minnesota Vikings, 6-4, .500
23. Jacksonville Jaguars, 6-4, .530

24. New York Jets, 7-3, .410
25. Denver Broncos, 7-3, .460
26. Baltimore Ravens, 7-3, .480
27. San Diego Chargers, 7-3, .490
28. Indianapolis Colts, 7-3, .510

29. Atlanta Falcons, 8-2, .430

30. Pittsburgh Steelers, 9-1, .460
31. Philadelphia Eagles, 9-1, .470
32. New England Patriots, 9-1, .500

Dallas' remaining games...

vs. Bears
@ Seahawks
vs. Saints
@ Eagles
vs. Commanders
@ Giants

Buffalo's remaining games...

@ Seahawks
@ Dolphins
vs. Browns
@ Bengals
@ 49ers
vs. Steelers

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

You know....of course I would want us to go into the draft with two high picks (no not that I want the team to lose more games but talking about the draft).

However a mid round pick is not that bad.

There are some D-Line players I would feel more comfortable taking in the mid rounds that I would not be ok with taking in the top 10.

Of course I guess one could argue if we liked a guy and felt it was to high to take him we could trade down and get extra picks while still taking him.

But at this time...I just do not think there is a DT or DE that I think rates high enough to take in a top ten.

Now I am sure there will be one or more that is taken that high, as it is a weak top end draft class for those positions ....but still at this time none of them strike me as worthy top 10 guys.

Ok...I am done rambling.

 

[calicowboy54]

1. San Francisco 49ers, 1-9, .500
2. Miami Dolphins, 1-9, .590

3. Washington Commanders, 3-7, .490
4. Carolina Panthers, 3-7, .540
5. Dallas Cowboys, 3-7, .560 * subject to coin flip
6. Oakland Raiders, 3-7, .560 * subject to coin flip
7. Kansas City Chiefs, 3-7, .590
8. Cleveland Browns, 3-7, .630

9. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 4-6, .440
10. Arizona Cardinals, 4-6, .460 * subject to coin flip
11. New Orleans Saints, 4-6, .460 * subject to coin flip
12. Chicago Bears, 4-6, .490
13. Tennessee Titans, 4-6, .510
14. Cincinnati Bengals, 4-6, .530 * subject to coin flip
15. Houston Texans, 4-6, .530 * subject to coin flip
16. Detroit Lions, 4-6, .540
17. Buffalo Bills, 4-6, .580 (Cowboys own selection)

18. St. Louis Rams, 5-5, .470
19. New York Giants, 5-5, .500 (Chargers own selection)

20. Seattle Seahawks, 6-4, .370
21. Green Bay Packers, 6-4, .430
22. Minnesota Vikings, 6-4, .500
23. Jacksonville Jaguars, 6-4, .530

24. New York Jets, 7-3, .410
25. Denver Broncos, 7-3, .460
26. Baltimore Ravens, 7-3, .480
27. San Diego Chargers, 7-3, .490
28. Indianapolis Colts, 7-3, .510

29. Atlanta Falcons, 8-2, .430

30. Pittsburgh Steelers, 9-1, .460
31. Philadelphia Eagles, 9-1, .470
32. New England Patriots, 9-1, .500

Dallas' remaining games...

vs. Bears
@ Seahawks
vs. Saints
@ Eagles
vs. Commanders
@ Giants

Buffalo's remaining games...

@ Seahawks
@ Dolphins
vs. Browns
@ Bengals
@ 49ers
vs. Steelers

i think we will go 6-10 or 5-11 and buffalo will go 10-6 or 9-7 or 8-8 either way we still got a top 10 pick and a top 25 pick.

 

[Hostile]

You know....of course I would want us to go into the draft with two high picks (no not that I want the team to lose more games but talking about the draft).

However a mid round pick is not that bad.

There are some D-Line players I would feel more comfortable taking in the mid rounds that I would not be ok with taking in the top 10.

Of course I guess one could argue if we liked a guy and felt it was to high to take him we could trade down and get extra picks while still taking him.

But at this time...I just do not think there is a DT or DE that I think rates high enough to take in a top ten.

Now I am sure there will be one or more that is taken that high, as it is a weak top end draft class for those positions ....but still at this time none of them strike me as worthy top 10 guys.

Ok...I am done rambling.

Just for giggles, let's suppose our pick stays that high. If San Diego offered their two 1st rounders for that high pick, would you take it and have three middle of the round 1st rounders?

I would have to seriously consider it. There are some good LBs and DL in this draft.

 

[Hostile]

i think we will go 6-10 or 5-11 and buffalo will go 10-6 or 9-7 or 8-8 either way we still got a top 10 pick and a top 25 pick.

So you think Buffalo is going to finsih 6-0, 5-1, or 4-2?

I definitely don't see 6-0 with the Steelers on the schedule for them.

I think 3-3 or 2-4 is far more likely.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Just for giggles, let's suppose our pick stays that high. If San Diego offered their two 1st rounders for that high pick, would you take it and have three middle of the round 1st rounders?

I would have to seriously consider it. There are some good LBs and DL in this draft.

It would be hard but I would have to consider it.

There are only a few players IMO that are worthy of our high first round pick at this time.

And only two of them on Defense IMO...A.Rolle and D.Johnson.

If we want to address the D-Line then it would be better to get those middle round picks but once again it depends on how the draft shapes up I guess.

 

[calicowboy54]

So you think Buffalo is going to finsih 6-0, 5-1, or 4-2?

I definitely don't see 6-0 with the Steelers on the schedule for them.

I think 3-3 or 2-4 is far more likely.

yes or i would not have posted. they are all winable games for buffalo and the are starting to come together on the O and there D is alot better than ours

 

[TheDuke]

this draft order from the great blue north is different,

http://www.gbnreport.com/weeklydraftorder.htm

it has us picking 14th with buffalo's pick

 

[Hostile]

this draft order from the great blue north is different,

http://www.gbnreport.com/weeklydraftorder.htm

it has us picking 14th with buffalo's pick

That one is just a bit off. Looking just at Dallas I can tell you why.

Each team has played 10 games. That means with 10 opponents they have played 100 games. At 100 games played for all of their opponents it is impossible for Dallas to have a .544 rating. It is impossible for any team to have a % that doesn't end in 0 after this week in the schedule. The number of wins by the opponents divided by the games played by the opponents equals the winning percentage. Most of those percentages are impossible given where we are in the schedule.

For example, Dallas...

Vikings, 6-4
Browns, 3-7
Commanders, 3-7
Giants, 5-5
Steelers, 9-1
Packers, 6-4
Lions, 4-6
Bengals, 4-6
Eagles, 9-1
Ravens, 7-3

That's 56 wins divided by 100 games played for a .560 %.

I hope that explains it.

 

[Hostile]

yes or i would not have posted. they are all winable games for buffalo and the are starting to come together on the O and there D is alot better than ours

4 of their last 6 are on the road. While I agree, every game is winnable, I just don't see that kind of success by a 4-6 team. 3-3 would shock me.

 

[Hostile]

It would be hard but I would have to consider it.

There are only a few players IMO that are worthy of our high first round pick at this time.

And only two of them on Defense IMO...A.Rolle and D.Johnson.

If we want to address the D-Line then it would be better to get those middle round picks but once again it depends on how the draft shapes up I guess.

I think I would do it. If that meant we don't get Derrick Johnson or Antrel Rolle with that top pick but ended up with an Ahmed Brooks and a Marlin Jackson with the pick that would have got one of them then I think we come out ahead because the other pick, let's say for giggles Mathias Kiwanuka, remains static.

3 Potential immediate contributors is better than 2.

I'm not saying this will be offered. Just speculating.

 

[InmanRoshi]

4 of their last 6 are on the road. While I agree, every game is winnable, I just don't see that kind of success by a 4-6 team. 3-3 would shock me.

Especially from a team that's 0-4 away from home this year, including a loss to the Raiders.

This hasn't proven to be a team that travels well, but they are very tough at home.

 

[Hostile]

Especially from a team that's 0-4 away from home this year, including a loss to the Raiders.

This hasn't proven to be a team that travels well, but they are very tough at home.

Very valid point. Like I said, 3-3 would really surprise me. I think 2-4 is more likely. I figure 6-10 for them at best.

St. Louis really let me down.

 

[zagnut]

That one is just a bit off. Looking just at Dallas I can tell you why.

Each team has played 10 games. That means with 10 opponents they have played 100 games. At 100 games played for all of their opponents it is impossible for Dallas to have a .544 rating. It is impossible for any team to have a % that doesn't end in 0 after this week in the schedule. The number of wins by the opponents divided by the games played by the opponents equals the winning percentage. Most of those percentages are impossible given where we are in the schedule.

For example, Dallas...

Vikings, 6-4
Browns, 3-7
Commanders, 3-7
Giants, 5-5
Steelers, 9-1
Packers, 6-4
Lions, 4-6
Bengals, 4-6
Eagles, 9-1
Ravens, 7-3

That's 56 wins divided by 100 games played for a .560 %.

I hope that explains it.

I have a question I honestly could not find the answer to. In figuring strength of schedule, do you include or omit the win or loss in the opponent's schedule that refers to the team whose SoS is being determined?

If it is included, your SoS numbers are correct. If it is omitted, Great Blue North's numbers are correct. In your example above, for instance, Minnesota would have 5 wins instead of 6 because one of the wins is against Dallas - if omitting wins or losses against yourself.

Also, are you already figuring the conference/division tie-breaker before the coin flip?