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If Flo and Hamlin leave, and if the front office doesn't tag someone in the next couple of hours, I expect they will both be gone. what does that do to the draft prospects?

LT and FS become bigger concerns than WR and CB. We are right back to where we were two years ago when we had no FS and no RT.

Time to start looking at the draft ratings of them big ol' OT's.
 

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fortdick;1963272 said:
If Flo and Hamlin leave, and if the front office doesn't tag someone in the next couple of hours, I expect they will both be gone. what does that do to the draft prospects?

LT and FS become bigger concerns than WR and CB. We are right back to where we were two years ago when we had no FS and no RT.

Time to start looking at the draft ratings of them big ol' OT's.

It will be Free or McQuistan if Flo leaves. They wouldn't trust a rookie.
 

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And Pat Watkins at FS.

Nothing would change. It would still be WR/CB/RB as priorities 1a, 1b, and 1c.
 

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fortdick;1963272 said:
If Flo and Hamlin leave, and if the front office doesn't tag someone in the next couple of hours, I expect they will both be gone. what does that do to the draft prospects?

LT and FS become bigger concerns than WR and CB. We are right back to where we were two years ago when we had no FS and no RT.

Time to start looking at the draft ratings of them big ol' OT's.

I don't think there's any way LT and FS become priorities over CB (especially) and WR, regardless of whether we lose Flo and Ham or not.

We've got young guys on the roster, and I highly doubt we'd draft a LT in the 1st round (although I wouldn't mind Otah, as stated in my sig).

We've also got Watkin's and supposedly Courtney Brown, so we would just be going younger at all those positions. Which has to happen for everyone eventually.
 

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BigDave95;1963279 said:
It will be Free or McQuistan if Flo leaves. They wouldn't trust a rookie.


BigDave95;1963280 said:
And Pat Watkins at FS.

Nothing would change. It would still be WR/CB/RB as priorities 1a, 1b, and 1c.

Great, second day picks replacing Pro Bowl players. I gotta believe we end up third in our division again if that happens.
 

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fortdick;1963293 said:
Great, second day picks replacing Pro Bowl players. I gotta believe we end up third in our division again if that happens.

As much as every team in the league would like to replace every position they lose with 1st rounders and other pro bowlers, that's just not the case.
 

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As much as every team in the league would like to replace every position they lose with 1st rounders and other pro bowlers, that's just not the case.


LT shoiuld be a first round pick. Can you name another position, besides QB, that is as important?

As far as FS, how many years did we spend looking to fill that hole?

Jerrah better get those two signed or we are back to 2005.
 

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fortdick;1963272 said:
If Flo and Hamlin leave, and if the front office doesn't tag someone in the next couple of hours, I expect they will both be gone. what does that do to the draft prospects?

LT and FS become bigger concerns than WR and CB. We are right back to where we were two years ago when we had no FS and no RT.

Time to start looking at the draft ratings of them big ol' OT's.

Dallas has 2 OT waiting in the wings. If they felt Flo was a high priority I think they would have stepped up to the plate as they have before. It could be that the coaching staff feels we have players ready to take over. That is not to say that Dallas will not draft a OT but I don’t think it changes draft strategy
 

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I don't think they would let Flo leave unless they felt confident we had his replacement on the team allready. Left tackle is just to hard to find. Free looked really good against Dwight Freeney in the preseason and he gets the chance to see the gamut in Ware, Canty, Spears, and co in practice.

Hamlin is young and capable though. He still has his best years in front of him. I don't think we would draft a guy in the early rounds to play free safety. I think we get this guy resigned.

We need

A cornerback to replace Reeves
we need a homerun threat at runningback.
 

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fortdick;1963299 said:
LT shoiuld be a first round pick. Can you name another position, besides QB, that is as important?

As far as FS, how many years did we spend looking to fill that hole?

Jerrah better get those two signed or we are back to 2005.

...what round exactly do you think Flo was drafted in?
 

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fortdick;1963299 said:
LT shoiuld be a first round pick. Can you name another position, besides QB, that is as important?

As far as FS, how many years did we spend looking to fill that hole?

Jerrah better get those two signed or we are back to 2005.

In Dallas franchise history has only once used a 1st rd pick on any O-lineman
 

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Doomsday101;1963304 said:
Dallas has 2 OT waiting in the wings. If they felt Flo was a high priority I think they would have stepped up to the plate as they have before. It could be that the coaching staff feels we have players ready to take over. That is not to say that Dallas will not draft a OT but I don’t think it changes draft strategy

I hope McQ and/or Free can do the job, but it is a big risk. FS will be a big issue if we lose Killer and Hamlin. Watkins would be all we would have, short of moving Henry back there. If we move Henry, then Reeves, Ball, or Brown would have to play. Or we would have to get two rookies in the draft to fill out the nickel.
 

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I'll bet even money that Hamlin is back next year but I think Flo is a gonner since he's going to want a huge payout on his final NFL contract.

Like other have said, Free looked really good in preseason and I think he'll be more than adequate to replace Flo.

People also forget that Tony is pretty mobile and can escape a little more pressure than the left side than most QBs can.
 

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Doomsday101;1963308 said:
In Dallas franchise history has only once used a 1st rd pick on any O-lineman

Not advocating taking an OT in the 1st, but in 2007...20 of 32 LT were first rounders...interesting stat I found.
 

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Portland Fanatic;1963311 said:
Not advocating taking an OT in the 1st, but in 2007...20 of 32 LT were first rounders...interesting stat I found.

How many of them as pro bowlers? Hell, Jason Peters went to the pro bowl and wasn't even drafted.
 

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Portland Fanatic;1963311 said:
Not advocating taking an OT in the 1st, but in 2007...20 of 32 LT were first rounders...interesting stat I found.


McQ was a 7th and Free a 4th. Correct?
 

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fortdick;1963299 said:
LT shoiuld be a first round pick. Can you name another position, besides QB, that is as important?

As far as FS, how many years did we spend looking to fill that hole?

Jerrah better get those two signed or we are back to 2005.

Sam Baker may be the only worthy left tackle available when Dallas picks at 22 but that may be too high for a guy that most experts think has question marks. Free and McQuistan will battle it out at left tackle if Dallas decides it wouldn't be cost effective to keep Flo.

As for safety, Watkins will have two years experience under his belt and Brown shows promise. I would hate to lose Hamlin but he is not indispensable.
 

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fortdick;1963314 said:
McQ was a 7th and Free a 4th. Correct?

I'm on record as saying I'd rather see Free than McQ, partly because McQ was drafted in the 7th.

I am under no illusion however that you can't play LT unless you're a 1st rounder. If Flo works, we will obviously be looking to pick up another guy either in FA or the Draft, but I doubt it'll be in the 1st round regardless.

Zimmy Lives;1963317 said:
Sam Baker may be the only worthy left tackle available when Dallas picks at 22 but that may be too high for a guy that most experts think has question marks.

I don't like Baker in the 1st round, I think Otah or Chris Williams would be there with our 22nd (Williams may be there for the 28th). If Baker is there with our natural 2nd round pick, I think it would be a pretty good pick.
 

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What about Colombo? Wasn't he a top 10 pick by the Bears? I am sure they didn't take him that early to play RT. Can he make the transition?

I gotta tell ya, the Giants pass rush is scary without a good LT.
 

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fortdick;1963326 said:
What about Colombo? Wasn't he a top 10 pick by the Bears? I am sure they didn't take him that early to play RT. Can he make the transition?

I gotta tell ya, the Giants pass rush is scary without a good LT.

I don't understand. You're basing his ability to play LT on the fact that he was drafted top 10? If anything, that should clue you into the fact that being taken in the 1st round doesn't mean you're going to be an all-pro good LT.
 
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