Draft Thoughts/Opinions less then 2 weeks away!

[Cowboyny]

-reading the breadcrumbs, they are taking a 1st rd corner. They have brought in every possible 1st rd corner as a 30 visitor: McCoy, Delane, Hood, Johnson, Terrell, Cisse. Interesting to find out their pecking order of the group. Really like both Hood/Johnson. Terrell/Cisse could also be those inside/outside types.

-starting to believe both Rodriguez/Allen aren't on the Cowboys radar. Will McClay always targets long linebackers who can affect the passing game. There was a report that they were highest on Hill, Trotter & Golday who all possesses elite length for the position. Also, Sonny Styles who is most definitely a trade up target. Keep an eye out on long corners as well. Overshown/Murray last season both had over 32 inch arms. Our two projected corners have over 32 inch arms in Revel and Bland.

-big nickel is a priority by this new staff based on the prospects they have brought in as 30 visits as well as Schott recently saying how important the position is and it hasn't been addresses. Downs, McNeil-Warren, Stukes, Scott, Ramsey. The only one missing is Louis that tweener from Pitt. I think if they fail to land Downs, they may look to try to get another day 2 pick to land either a Stukes or Scott. Perkins could also be the wildcard here.

-watching these 2 edge rushers: Howell/Height after day 1. CP has strong ties being a former assistant with the Texas A&M program. Height, will be more of a designated pass rusher, but he as good as every edge in this class of just doing that. He had a great game against Utah where both their tackles are going to be drafted high.

-It wouldn't surprise me if the team doesn't draft a high linebacker or edge. They aren't going to be able to address all needs and still have cap space to either sign or trade for a veteran. Also, remember, the 2nd wave of fa post draft where more players will become available.

 

[darthseinfeld]

-reading the breadcrumbs, they are taking a 1st rd corner. They have brought in every possible 1st rd corner as a 30 visitor: McCoy, Delane, Hood, Johnson, Terrell, Cisse. Interesting to find out their pecking order of the group. Really like both Hood/Johnson. Terrell/Cisse could also be those inside/outside types.

-starting to believe both Rodriguez/Allen aren't on the Cowboys radar. Will McClay always targets long linebackers who can affect the passing game. There was a report that they were highest on Hill, Trotter & Golday who all possesses elite length for the position. Also, Sonny Styles who is most definitely a trade up target. Keep an eye out on long corners as well. Overshown/Murray last season both had over 32 inch arms. Our two projected corners have over 32 inch arms in Revel and Bland.

-big nickel is a priority by this new staff based on the prospects they have brought in as 30 visits as well as Schott recently saying how important the position is and it hasn't been addresses. Downs, McNeil-Warren, Stukes, Scott, Ramsey. The only one missing is Louis that tweener from Pitt. I think if they fail to land Downs, they may look to try to get another day 2 pick to land either a Stukes or Scott. Perkins could also be the wildcard here.

-watching these 2 edge rushers: Howell/Height after day 1. CP has strong ties being a former assistant with the Texas A&M program. Height, will be more of a designated pass rusher, but he as good as every edge in this class of just doing that. He had a great game against Utah where both their tackles are going to be drafted high.

-It wouldn't surprise me if the team doesn't draft a high linebacker or edge. They aren't going to be able to address all needs and still have cap space to either sign or trade for a veteran. Also, remember, the 2nd wave of fa post draft where more players will become available.

Perkins is definitely not a big Nickel. He is more of a pass rusher that can play off ball LB. He is probably more of a Nolan Smith type player if he maxes out

 

[reddyuta]

I actually believe they like Jrod but not sure they like so much that they would take him at 20.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

-starting to believe both Rodriguez/Allen aren't on the Cowboys radar. Will McClay always targets long linebackers who can affect the passing game. There was a report that they were highest on Hill, Trotter & Golday who all possesses elite length for the position. Also, Sonny Styles who is most definitely a trade up target. Keep an eye out on long corners as well. Overshown/Murray last season both had over 32 inch arms. Our two projected corners have over 32 inch arms in Revel and Bland.

This is why I think filling the MLBer starting position is down to drafting Styles or trading for Brooks. They could have made the trade for Brooks a month ago ( after striking out on a couple of free agents) with their eyes closed.......IF they wanted to. They apparently decided to hold off and see what the draft offers. Keep in mind, we are looking for a high-end day-one starter.

 

[Cowboyny]

Perkins is definitely not a big Nickel. He is more of a pass rusher that can play off ball LB. He is probably more of a Nolan Smith type player if he maxes out

He is really a chess piece. Many believe he is the best QB spy in the entire class. He can play off the ball, edge.

 

[darthseinfeld]

This is why I think filling the MLBer starting position is down to drafting Styles or trading for Brooks. They could have made the trade for Brooks a month ago ( after striking out on a couple of free agents) with their eyes closed.......IF they wanted to. They apparently decided to hold off and see what the draft offers. Keep in mind, we are looking for a high-end day-one starter.

There could be more options after the draft. The draft usually opens up a second market in May and June. We also still have a good amount of cap space

 

[darthseinfeld]

He is really a chess piece. Many believe he is the best QB spy in the entire class. He can play off the ball, edge.

But he is not a slot player by any stretch

 

[Aven8]

Will McClay does not have that great of track record on D. We haven’t had an alpha LB here in forever. We always pick these finesse LB’s and they flame out.

McClay is probably in hog heaven as he might love DB’s more than CP…..

 

[Cowboyny]

This is why I think filling the MLBer starting position is down to drafting Styles or trading for Brooks. They could have made the trade for Brooks a month ago ( after striking out on a couple of free agents) with their eyes closed.......IF they wanted to. They apparently decided to hold off and see what the draft offers. Keep in mind, we are looking for a high-end day-one starter.

Miami could be asking too high of a price for Brooks, like they did with Fitzpatrick at the deadline last year. As it turned out, they got very little value in return for Fitzpatrick and allowed Chubb to walk. Brooks price will come down either during the draft or post draft.

Don't rule out the three that I mentioned in Hill, Golday and Trotter. It would be an interesting discussion between CP and McClay-McClay loves those athletic freaks and never puts an importance on instincts, where CP wants that instinctive player. We know Trotter is a 30 visitor, he has elite instincts in the run game, but has a lot of work needed with coverage. He is the so called poor man's Allen with better physical traits.

Agree, Styles is a serious trade up candidate. He fits McClay's prototype for the position and has improved his instincts with more experience.

 

[JBS]

I still think the most likely scenario is a trade up, however, who knows who they really want. Every day it’s somebody new. First it was Bailey, then it was Bain or Downs, now we are hearing Styles.

 

[Cowboyny]

But he is not a slot player by any stretch

Again, you are thinking like them having a traditional slot like Jourdin Lewis. The big nickel is more of a box player that just covers the underneath zones and the backs out of the backfield. This player isn't going to see much man coverage responsibilities at all. There was a good write-up about the cover 8 scheme.

 

[JBS]

Miami could be asking too high of a price for Brooks, like they did with Fitzpatrick at the deadline last year. As it turned out, they got very little value in return for Fitzpatrick and allowed Chubb to walk. Brooks price will come down either during the draft or post draft.

Don't rule out the three that I mentioned in Hill, Golday and Trotter. It would be an interesting discussion between CP and McClay-McClay loves those athletic freaks and never puts an importance on instincts, where CP wants that instinctive player. We know Trotter is a 30 visitor, he has elite instincts in the run game, but has a lot of work needed with coverage. He is the so called poor man's Allen with better physical traits.

Agree, Styles is a serious trade up candidate. He fits McClay's prototype for the position and has improved his instincts with more experience.

Based on what I heard, I think CP also puts an emphasis on length at LB, it’s not just mcclay.

 

[Cowboyny]

I still think the most likely scenario is a trade up, however, who knows who they really want. Every day it’s somebody new. First it was Bailey, then it was Bain or Downs, now we are hearing Styles.

Think about it, those positions along with corner are their priority needs. All these players are in play!

 

[Cowboyny]

Based on what I heard, I think CP also puts an emphasis on length at LB, it’s not just mcclay.

If that is the case, Rodriguez will definitely not be considered.

 

[Cowboyny]

Will McClay does not have that great of track record on D. We haven’t had an alpha LB here in forever. We always pick these finesse LB’s and they flame out.

McClay is probably in hog heaven as he might love DB’s more than CP…..

McClay is probably drooling over Styles or Hill Jr, where CP wants more of an instinctive linebacker for the position.

 

[Pabst]

This is a weird draft.

I get the feeling the top 10 will ultimately end up looking very differently from what current mock drafts/player rankings suggest. I would not be surprised to see OL/DL players go a lot higher than people anticipate. I think Vega, Fano and Proctor will all go higher than people think, possibly in the top 10. Faulk and maybe Woods are also more likely to me to be in the 5-15 range rather than the 15-25 range.

I think Styles may fall further than expected. He blew up the combine and suddenly started going from the 20 range into the top 5? It would not be the first time, and it is a weird draft. But I'm not so sure.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Again, you are thinking like them having a traditional slot like Jourdin Lewis. The big nickel is more of a box player that just covers the underneath zones and the backs out of the backfield. This player isn't going to see much man coverage responsibilities at all. There was a good write-up about the cover 8 scheme.

If there is conversation about Perkins as a big slot, then the Big Nickel thing has taken a life of its own and needs recalibration

Perkins is a pass rusher who can play off ball LB. He has no business playing anywhere in the secondary in any scheme. Underneath zone or not. Would be a waste of his talent

 

[Cowboyny]

If there is conversation about Perkins as a big slot, then the Big Nickel thing has taken a life of its own and needs recalibration

Perkins is a pass rusher who can play off ball LB. He has no business playing anywhere in the secondary in any scheme. Underneath zone or not. Would be a waste of his talent

Most of the media scouts believe he is a off the ball linebacker. Too small to become a full time edge, but he can help in that area. Whomever drafts him, needs a plan how to use him. Heard someone say he is ideal for the Vikings blitzing scheme.

 

[Aven8]

McClay is probably drooling over Styles or Hill Jr, where CP wants more of an instinctive linebacker for the position.

Nakobie Dean was like CJ and JRod but smaller. A tackling machine with those same instincts at GA. He just can’t stay healthy and is on the smaller side. We tried to get him in FA and had a legit offer. Who knows what their plans are but expect a lot of surprises. We always go pick by pick through these drafts and see the Cowboys skip on a lot of good players because of “traits”…..

 

[darthseinfeld]

Most of the media scouts believe he is a off the ball linebacker. Too small to become a full time edge, but he can help in that area. Whomever drafts him, needs a plan how to use him. Heard someone say he is ideal for the Vikings blitzing scheme.

Think of him as a poor mans Jalon Walker. His main skill set is as a pass rusher, but has the ability to play off ball on run downs. Definitely doesnt belong in the slot.