Drafting a QB every year and why that doesn't work

CowboyRoy

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They didn't net a high second (pick 34 as mentioned by me about 10 times in this thread) for Cassel alone. They had to include a Hall of Fame LB in the trade.
The only thing glossed over is your thinking cap.

As to the system, you are basically mentally impaired if you believe what you type.
Dallas overdrafted Quincy Carter and stockpiled young QBs with Henson/Hutch only to see an UDFA beat them all out eventually.

Again, there is zero proof drafting QBs is a good investment. Most teams who draft them to start are awful and they don't see a second contract or starting job.
And that's teams who spend premium picks.
Guys who toss late darts have succeeded insanely rarely.

The only true success was Wolf in a different era with more rounds and less teams again as noted by me in the OP.

You go on ignore for being unable to actually read.

LOL.....so the only guy that has EVER had success in the NFL drafting QB's was Wolf in another era? ahahahahaahaaha!!!! :lmao::laugh::lmao2:
 

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Again, this is really easy. Go back over the last couple seasons and re-draft til your heart is content then explain how the Cowboys are better for having selected a QB before where he actually went.

And while you are there consider the list of recent 3-5th rounders you could pick up now off the street.

The Cowboys showed when they kept Weeden and traded for Cassel they aren't entrusting this team to a kid.
 

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I started a thread about a year ago about how I would spend a 4th/5th/or 6th round pick on a QB every year and give him 2 year window o show me something because no one knows where the next Tom Brady is, Of course there is a logic to it, not just close your eyes and pick a QB.. I explained that a year ago and believe it gives team the best chance to get a top QB

I still believe in the idea

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Or you could just take Indy's approach to drafting QB's. Step 1: Identify when a can't miss prospect is coming out. Step 2: Tank the season to get the number 1 draft pick.
 

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I started a thread about a year ago about how I would spend a 4th/5th/or 6th round pick on a QB every year and give him 2 year window o show me something because no one knows where the next Tom Brady is, Of course there is a logic to it, not just close your eyes and pick a QB.. I explained that a year ago and believe it gives team the best chance to get a top QB

I still believe in the idea

:cool:

the reason i started this thread is that idea is popular and on it's face it does make sense.
the issue is reality intrudes.
using real life examples can you walk through your idea for the past two years?
what qb do you take in r6 or r7 and what do you not draft?

i try to challenge dogma and i think that;s what this idea is.

a lot of what is "accepted" about this idea is really false.

GB and NE have each found one journeyman QB each in the past decade yet get held up as some model of this working.

Here is your 6/7 QBs the last two years:
2015:
Trevor Siemian
2014:
Zach Mettenberger
David Fales
Keith Wenning
Tajh Boyd
Garrett Gilbert
 

perrykemp

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GB and NE have each found one journeyman QB each in the past decade yet get held up as some model of this working.

I think when people think of GB they probably are thinking back to the Holmgren / Wolf era and are projecting that 90's success forward a bit too much.

They did have a lot of success in the 1990s drafting QBs, having them backup Favre, and then trading them. Guys like Mark Brunell, Matt Hasselback, and Aaron Brooks. After that you have to go to 2005 when they drafted Rodgers to see another. At the end of the day Rodgers wasn't drafted as a backup per-say, he just had to wait his turn.

In summary, the Packers really haven't been particularly more successful at drafting (and developing/trading/etc) backup QBs in the past decade than anybody else.
 

Manwiththeplan

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Which early pick the last couple years you want to give up for which QB that was drafted below that slot?
Want Manziel over Martin? Geno Smith?

We haven't picked high enough to touch any high valued QB.

Dude, you can say this until you're blue in the face and everyone will still want a qb drafted every year or so.

Truth is the even with hindsight, there isn't really a qb we should have taken. The Romo injury does open the door for Russell Wilson ruage, but keep in mind his rookie deal would be expiring and anyone drafted prior to 2012, would be gone already
 

camelboy

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the reason i started this thread is that idea is popular and on it's face it does make sense.
the issue is reality intrudes.
using real life examples can you walk through your idea for the past two years?
what qb do you take in r6 or r7 and what do you not draft?

i try to challenge dogma and i think that;s what this idea is.

a lot of what is "accepted" about this idea is really false.

GB and NE have each found one journeyman QB each in the past decade yet get held up as some model of this working.

Here is your 6/7 QBs the last two years:
2015:
Trevor Siemian
2014:
Zach Mettenberger
David Fales
Keith Wenning
Tajh Boyd
Garrett Gilbert

The idea (from my perspective) doesn't force a GM to draft a QB every year if in one year there is no QB that meets the minimum criteria for him to be drafted. Every year if the organization's on the clock at the 4th/5th/6th round and there is a QB on the board, I'd take him. Keep in mind the GM/HC set the criteria used to decide whether a QB is worth spending that pick on him or not.

Dallas in the past few years is spending year after year, either stacking the late rounds picking offensive players (except QB) or defensive players. So why not use one of these occurs on a QB that your scouts give you the indication that he has the tangible qualities and is worth being picked up to see how he grows in the coming 2 seasons....

:cool:
 
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