Drafting oline is a win,win...

juck

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situation.Bledsoe will thrive as well as romo,henson or schaub,etc....Jules will thrive.Its all starts in the line.Parcells will FIX it!
 

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if we draft a o-line in the first round I would want it to be either Fergueson(doubt it), Winston Justice, or Jon Scott the others I would stay away from at least in the first round
 

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Hell yeah its a win-win. We cant just draft OL, we must acquire some via Free Agency, i mean who knows how good these guys'll be coming outta college. If we get some FA's we will know how they have played, and will be able to improve the line. I like Jon Runyan of Philadelphia to fill the RT position. There are tons of OL FA's so who knows who BP will bring in. I just hope he brings in people that will seriously impact and improve the OL greatly. Bledsoe will have more time, Jones will have room to run, we wont be facing long 2nd or 3rd downs, and we will be str8.
 

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It's only a win win if the lineman are any good. With our history, it could be lose lose.
 

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mangold or Gean-Jiles are the only guys i'm really interested in considering our draft position and needs and that only in the 2nd round or 3rd. I think that any OL we expect to come in and start will have to be signed via FA and we probably need at least one FA OL.
 

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ghst187 said:
mangold or Gean-Jiles are the only guys i'm really interested in considering our draft position and needs and that only in the 2nd round or 3rd. I think that any OL we expect to come in and start will have to be signed via FA and we probably need at least one FA OL.
I agree, I am going to be angry if we don't get at least one OL first day, preferably the first rd. We need at least 1 tackle and 1 G/C, maybe more.
 

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wow juckie, after reading your post, I felt really good. Thank you for that.

Parcells will get it done. Last draft, when the defense was atrocious, Parcells fixed it up, and we now have one of the best defenses( maybe even better than the Commanders' when healthy). This draft/FA, our O-Line will be atrocious, but BP will get it done. Super Bowl Contenders of 2007!
 

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So the plan is to stay just below the wildcard slot or make the wild card?

I'm afraid that is the best just focusing on the OL will accomplish.
 

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Hostile said:
So the plan is to stay just below the wildcard slot or make the wild card?

I'm afraid that is the best just focusing on the OL will accomplish.

well there's always the occasional kicker who can actually kick the ball between the bars, linebackers, and a FS might be nice :starspin
 

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We won't be drafting an offensive lineman in the first round.
My God we agree. :eek:

Gotta write that on the calender.

Maybe great minds just think alike tonight. :)
 

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demdcowboys#1 said:
We cant just draft OL, we must acquire some via Free Agency.

If we don't come out of free agency with some help for the OL, I think we are in deep trouble.

Besides, I don't believe Coach Parcells is excited about starting another rookie on the offensive line. I am sure we will go after OL, but that doesn't necessarily mean we are married to the idea of taking one high.
 

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MichaelWinicki said:
We won't be drafting an offensive lineman in the first round.
If not teh first definitely the second. Hopefully the first.
 

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MichaelWinicki said:
We won't be drafting an offensive lineman in the first round.


Right as rain on that.

Adams won't be replaced and I really think that Pettiti is everything that Parcells wants in a tackle (he'll play hurt without complaint, he's a Jersey boy, he's a late rounder whose success stokes Parcells' ego).

Guards and centers just don't historically go at 18 or higher.
 

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Can someone tell me what linemen are free agents. Runyan? The guy has Marco Rivera written all over him. He has had multiple injuries and has seen his ability drop. Backus? I'm not entirely sure that a talented rookie in the 2nd like McNeil or O'Callagan will not outplay him. Guards available? Pickings are mightly slim. On the other hand we can fill the OLB spot with a young talented player with Adoyele who is extremely young. Fujita could be moved to the inside if Burnett is still not ready. Dallas might be better served trading our first for a really high 2nd pick. Our draft could go like this.
2nd Guilles
2nd McNeil or O'Callaghan
3rd Anderson or another DE/OLB tweener.
Next year we could pick up Brady Quinn with 2 first round picks and wouldn't have to reach for a position that we desperately need this year.
 

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juckie said:
situation.Bledsoe will thrive as well as romo,henson or schaub,etc....Jules will thrive.Its all starts in the line.Parcells will FIX it!

Juckie,

I do not think anybody on these boards recognize the importance of a dominant offensive line more than me. Even in today's parity drunk NFL, the Super Bowl winner has always had solid offensive lines.

Lombardi's Packers, Shula's Dolphins, Noll's Steelers, Landry's and Johnson's Cowboys (Switzer's also may have been the best of all time), the Raiders with their three Hall of Famers, Gibb's hogs, Parcells' Giants along with New England, Denver and San Francisco all had numerous offensive lineman representing them in their respective Pro Bowls.

Yes, the offensive line is of such importance.

However, as far as this offseason is concerned...

...I do not see Dallas going offensive line in the draft until the 3rd round (despite the troubles the Cowboys had last season).

Why?

1. Dallas' top priority on the offensive line to address is NOT TACKLE, but CENTER!

Al Johnson kept getting blown off the ball. Bledsoe on many occasions could not step up in the pocket to deliver a pass. This helped allow the outside speed rushers to succeed getting to Bledsoe. It wasn't all Petitti's and Tucker's fault as amny posters have roasted them.

I am telling you now folks, PETITTI IS DALLAS' RIGHT TACKLE FOR YEARS TO COME! Get used to it - he will improve and make us proud. Nobody was complaining about Petitti before Flozell went down.

Which leads to #2.

2. Flozell is coming back. We do miss him now, don't we Cowboy fans?

3. There is not a center in the draft worthy of a #1 round (or even 2nd round) pick. Mangold seems to be the only possibility except for Eslinger. However they suffer the same problem as Al Johnson. They are both very light. They will get blown off the ball as well.

THIS IS WHY LeCHARLES BENTLEY IS SO IMPORTANT!

4. Who knows what Dallas has in Colombo? If he can return to form before his injury, Dallas might not need to look for another tackle.

This is why I don't see Dallas addressing offensive line in the first round of the draft. There will be good offensive linemen in the 3rd round to chose from.
 

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Manster68 said:
However, as far as this offseason is concerned...

...I do not see Dallas going offensive line in the draft until the 3rd round (despite the troubles the Cowboys had last season).

Why?

1. Dallas' top priority on the offensive line to address is NOT TACKLE, but CENTER!

Al Johnson kept getting blown off the ball. Bledsoe on many occasions could not step up in the pocket to deliver a pass. This helped allow the outside speed rushers to succeed getting to Bledsoe. It wasn't all Petitti's and Tucker's fault as amny posters have roasted them.

I am telling you now folks, PETITTI IS DALLAS' RIGHT TACKLE FOR YEARS TO COME! Get used to it - he will improve and make us proud. Nobody was complaining about Petitti before Flozell went down.

Which leads to #2.

2. Flozell is coming back. We do miss him now, don't we Cowboy fans?

3. There is not a center in the draft worthy of a #1 round (or even 2nd round) pick. Mangold seems to be the only possibility except for Eslinger. However they suffer the same problem as Al Johnson. They are both very light. They will get blown off the ball as well.

THIS IS WHY LeCHARLES BENTLEY IS SO IMPORTANT!

4. Who knows what Dallas has in Colombo? If he can return to form before his injury, Dallas might not need to look for another tackle.

This is why I don't see Dallas addressing offensive line in the first round of the draft. There will be good offensive linemen in the 3rd round to chose from.

Bentley would be a nice addition. But Johnson was no way as big a problem as the tackles. Tucker and Petitti allowed 24 sacks and that's with help. Johnson allowed 1.

Now to be fair, Petitti may improve. Tucker may grow a brain. Columbo may be comeback player of the year. TO might be a model citizen for his new team. Gas prices may fall.

We may not go OT in round 1. But we will by round 2 I hope.
 

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DLCassidy said:
Bentley would be a nice addition. But Johnson was no way as big a problem as the tackles. Tucker and Petitti allowed 24 sacks and that's with help. Johnson allowed 1.

Now to be fair, Petitti may improve. Tucker may grow a brain. Columbo may be comeback player of the year. TO might be a model citizen for his new team. Gas prices may fall.

We may not go OT in round 1. But we will by round 2 I hope.


I keep telling you people (just for Juke) that the problem is LG. Don't believe me but see where the team upgrades this off-season.
 
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