Drafting WRs by conference?

[ABQCOWBOY]

This is all valid analysis, but again a top 10 list is really too narrow, considering the small schools alot of these guys were coming from. I agree a ratio would be another way of looking at it, but going strictly from a "Where is the highest concentration of quality WRs coming from" standpoint, I think this analysis gives you a pretty good idea. Your plan would give you more of a bust ratio, than a where are these guys coming from idea. Which is good, it's just not what I was looking for.

OK, I can agree with this. If your just looking at where you go to find a guy who can play in the NFL, then I can see your point. However, if your looking at a way to make analysis on trends for drafting an impact NFL WR, which is what I am hoping we can find, then maybe it's a bit more random.

 

[superpunk]

OK, I can agree with this. If your just looking at where you go to find a guy who can play in the NFL, then I can see your point. However, if your looking at a way to make analysis on trends for drafting an impact NFL WR, which is what I am hoping we can find, then maybe it's a bit more random.

I think conservatively, top 40 WR is a decent hope for a guy you're picking at #22. That means at the very least he's a decent #2 WR, ya know? The current data suggests that if you want to find a guy who will definitely contribute and play for a while, you go to the ACC and the Big 10. It's just unfortunate that we probably won't have a shot at Ginn.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Very good research SP and others.

This is nice to have a good read about a topic (WRs in the draft) that has grown a little old. A fresh approach to it has given the topic a spark.

You know it is not too far fetched to consider this without even reading all of the data. Once again, as others have mentioned, nothing is concrete but even if you just think off the top of your head you can think of some schools that just seem to produce good talent at specific positions and you may also think of schools that seem to have players of a position go on to the NFL and not pan out.

Here are a few examples. Now I am not sure these are up to date but just me thinking off the top of my head over the years concerning some schools and positions.

Ohio State - If you are any where close to living in the general area (east) you will know that for years many have called Ohio State...WRU (wide receiver U). There is a reason for this. Here is another thing to consider. They also tend to produce some good centers and offensive Linemen. They have been known to also produce good defensive players specifically LB and DBs. However the one area that people may not consider about Ohio St is in their Kicking game. They have had some very good players at the position however to be honest I have not followed how the Kickers have panned out in the NFL.

Boston College and Michigan - Here are two schools that in the past I have said if you are in the later rounds and you want to draft an Olineman than take a guy from one of these two schools unless a far superior player is on the board.
I don't know if it has been the coaching, scouting or what but they just seem to find good Olineman even if they guy you draft may not turn out to be a superstar they are normally sound in the fundamentals.

Miami - They have produced some very good TEs, RBs, LBs and DBs over the years.

Ok how about a team or two that seems to have players that do not pan out in the NFL.

Penn State - Say what you want but it has been some time since they have had a good success rate with the RBs in the NFL from Penn State. The last time I remember a can't miss blue chipper was Kijana Carter (sp?) but he was hurt in consecutive years (his rookie and following year) that really derailed his promising career.

Florida - I would say more of a spurrier curse but for a team that did so well with QBs and WRs in college they have not done as well in the NFL.

Not that all of this means a hill of beans as nothing is concrete but it is a tad interesting and just adding to the general topic. Anything to take a different approach leading up to the draft as the same old thing is beyond old by now.

 

[superpunk]

Ohio State - If you are any where close to living in the general area (east) you will know that for years many have called Ohio State...WRU (wide receiver U). There is a reason for this. Here is another thing to consider. They also tend to produce some good centers and offensive Linemen. They have been known to also produce good defensive players specifically LB and DBs. However the one area that people may not consider about Ohio St is in their Kicking game. They have had some very good players at the position however to be honest I have not followed how the Kickers have panned out in the NFL.

Ohio State is by far the most well-represented school in the top 40. The difference, at least last year, is that they weren't well represented in the top 20, but still - a good contingent of players.

If I was just going off the odds, I'd take a WR from FSU, Miami, or Ohio State about every year. They seem to be the most prominent WR-producers, and they also produce other NFL prospects like factories. Michigan wasn't too bad, either. If you can't manage that, take a flyer on a guy from division 2 because those guys are well represented in the league's truly dominant receivers - them and the ACC.

From the SEC, Georgia was decently represented, with guys like Hines Ward.

Boston College and Michigan - Here are two schools that in the past I have said if you are in the later rounds and you want to draft an Olineman than take a guy from one of these two schools unless a far superior player is on the board.

Agreed, particularly on Boston College. I wonder if Olineman would rank out representing the Big East and Big 10 well - I feel they would, but there's no way to quantify an Olimeman ranking system.

Florida - I would say more of a spurrier curse but for a team that did so well with QBs and WRs in college they have not done as well in the NFL.

Hence the skepticism of one Sidney Rice. Alot of Spurrier's WRs "peak" in college. That's not what we want.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Agreed, particularly on Boston College. I wonder if Olineman would rank out representing the Big East and Big 10 well - I feel they would, but there's no way to quantify an Olimeman ranking system.

Just as an FYI, although I am sure you probably know already, Boston college is no longer in the Big East.

However I know BC has went through different coaches over the years but I wonder if the AD department has had long time scouts in the system that have just had skills with picking O-Linemen. Same could be said of some of the other schools.

You have to figure that schools that already have a huge recruiting base like Ohio, Texas and Florida (the overall states) have an advantage because they have a larger to pool to gather from compared to a BC. So that part makes me curious about how they get some of the better O-linemen over the years.

Normally you would saying coaching and the coaches doing recruiting but like I said they have been through different coaches over the years and it does not seem to slow them so it would seem they have some constant there.

 

[superpunk]

Just as an FYI, although I am sure you probably know already, Boston college is no longer in the Big East.

my statement does kind of look that way, lol. I was thinking of the old big east, when thinking of dominant linemen, which I guess now would basically be the ACC - again.

However I know BC has went through different coaches over the years but I wonder if the AD department has had long time scouts in the system that have just had skills with picking O-Linemen. Same could be said of some of the other schools.

Could also be part of the conference's focus. The Big East was generally a power game conference, and so is the Big 10. The SEC is a defensive conference. These influences dictate the kind of players selected by teams within the conference, and so you see that translate to the NFL selection. Could also be the geographical location, as you're going to find more big corn-fed farm boys in the Big-10 regions than anywhere else.