Dre Kirkpatrick

[JBS]

Still waiting to see where that has been reported though, i've never seen a time of anything under 4.42 for Dre. Average is 4.5, which isn't bad.

i dont think any of those pre combine times are ever accurate...they all seem like bull****..lets just see what happens next month

 

[cruz_aedo861]

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Kirkpatrick is without a doubt the #2 corner.

Then why does kiper jr. have alfonso dennard ahead of kirkpatrick seems like there is doubt. have you seen kirkpatricks hips so stiff. give me minnifield in the 2nd and de castro in the 1st.

 

[NeonNinja]

Then why does kiper jr. have alfonso dennard ahead of kirkpatrick seems like there is doubt. have you seen kirkpatricks hips so stiff. give me minnifield in the 2nd and de castro in the 1st.

Good for Kiper.

Kirkpatrick plays with a natural bend and has fluid hips for his size IMO.

I agree with DeCastro, he's at the top of my board at 14, followed by Kirk.

 

[cruz_aedo861]

Good for Kiper.

Kirkpatrick plays with a natural bend and has fluid hips for his size IMO.

I agree with DeCastro, he's at the top of my board at 14, followed by Kirk.

look i like kirkpatrick but in 18th-22nd pick range but he will be long gone before then. but as far as talent goes and just talent i have it like this.

1. Morris Claiborne
2. Janoris jenkins
3. Alfonso Dennard
4. Dre kirkpatrick

 

[21Savage]

As long as he doesn't have stiff hips, im all for it.. like i said, i just know alot of taller DB's have trouble turning or cutting with smaller, quicker WR's.. even if they have good speed.

I can't even name a 6'3 CB who is a quality starter in the NFL.

Sean Smith for the Dolphins. Antonio Cromartie might be listed as 6'2 but for all intents and purposes is 6'3.

Nnamdi is not far from that. Richard Sherman of the Seahawks played well this year and isn't far from that.

 

[tm1119]

I honestly think if he played for a random team like Iowa we would looking at Kirkpatrick as a late 1st/early 2nd round pick. He clearly benefited from having a great defense around him. He rarely had to play the ball in his JR and SR year. Both of the safeties behind him and the corner opposite are going to be picked in the first 4 rounds. Not to mention the incredible pass rush that Bama had that made his cover time pretty short. Im not trying to take anything away from Kirkpatrick as I do like him as a pro prospect, but I think top 15 pick makes him a bit overrated. Aside from his height which is a bonus I dont see a huge gap between him and Minnifield, Boykin or Hayward in terms of pure coverage skills. And the later 3 can be had in the 2nd round.

 

[ajk23az]

I wonder where all the people are claiming to trade up for Claiborne are just like they did Peterson last year?

Claiborne is a better cover guy than Peterson is for sure. The only difference is that PP is a ton better return guy.

Claiborne can still return on kickoffs but not like punt returns like PP does.

I would love to get Claiborne but it's a pipe dream.

 

[alby]

I honestly think if he played for a random team like Iowa we would looking at Kirkpatrick as a late 1st/early 2nd round pick. He clearly benefited from having a great defense around him. He rarely had to play the ball in his JR and SR year. Both of the safeties behind him and the corner opposite are going to be picked in the first 4 rounds. Not to mention the incredible pass rush that Bama had that made his cover time pretty short. Im not trying to take anything away from Kirkpatrick as I do like him as a pro prospect, but I think top 15 pick makes him a bit overrated. Aside from his height which is a bonus I dont see a huge gap between him and Minnifield, Boykin or Hayward in terms of pure coverage skills. And the later 3 can be had in the 2nd round.

This.

It will depend on how the 2012 Dallas Cowboys braintrust will attack the draft. Need vs. value. Dre would be a great "need" move because it is quite obvious we are in desperate need of secondary help; but with a draft littered with CB's, it may not be a great "value" move.

As far as the actual player is concerned, Dre's top end speed may be an issue (we'll know more about this after workouts) but when is that really even used in the NFL? His biggest asset is his ability to tackle and this should not be understated. Tackling was a huge issue for us last year and if we are trying to find a Newman replacement, then Kirkpatrick would be the anti-Newman if you will.

Does anyone know Jerome Henderson's history of drafts? This would probably help us determine what type of DB's he usually goes for.

 

[Frozen700]

As long as he doesn't have stiff hips, im all for it.. like i said, i just know alot of taller DB's have trouble turning or cutting with smaller, quicker WR's.. even if they have good speed.

I can't even name a 6'3 CB who is a quality starter in the NFL.

Sean Smith

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Sean Smith

Pointed out already, but thank you. There is one. lol

Smith has very quick feet for a man his size, and weighs about 20 lbs more than Dre. Lets hope Dre shares those quick feet and bulks up a bit before the draft.

 

[cowboysfan31]

Asomugha, Antonio Cromartie, and DRC are listed at 6'2" and are decent CBs.

 

[Frozen700]

Pointed out already, but thank you. There is one. lol

Smith has very quick feet for a man his size, and weighs about 20 lbs more than Dre. Lets hope Dre shares those quick feet and bulks up a bit before the draft.

ooh my bad..

 

[CATCH17]

I think Claiborne is head and shoulders above Kirkpatrick. And I know I'm in the vast majority but I honestly wouldn't rank Kirkpatrick too far ahead of the 2nd round CB's Minnifield, Boykin, Gilmore, or Hayward. This is an extremely deep CB draft, the value is great in the 2nd and I personally would wait until then to draft a CB.

He is.

No way does Kirkpatrick jump him.

 

[CATCH17]

Good for Kiper.

Kirkpatrick plays with a natural bend and has fluid hips for his size IMO.
I agree with DeCastro, he's at the top of my board at 14, followed by Kirk.

I disagree.

When I look at Kirkpatrick I see more of a Safety than a corner.