Drew Henson Versus Jake Delhomme

[RCowboyFan]

So the two NFL Europe QB's who are rated better than Henson this year......what are they going to be?? Manning? Brady??

Yeah, since Passer Rating has been such a good indicator of QB potential or SB wins

 

[SmellsLikeTuna]

Yeah, since Passer Rating has been such a good indicator of QB potential or SB wins

Isn't that what this thread was about.....his NFL Europe stats (which all factor into QB rating).

If you are going to try and draw a comparison from Henson to Delhomme because of their NFL Europe stats.....then you better acknowledge that there are two players over there putting up better stats, and they should draw more favorable comparisons. :

 

[ravidubey]

I consider Delhomme a good steady QB with a decent arm who does not make a lot of mistakes and I think he fits in well for what Carolina is trying to do offensively. I don't consider him one of the elite QB's of the NFL but in my opinion he is clearly a guy who has done a good job leading his team. As for any comparsions with Henson I don't think any can be made at this point.

I think Delhomme is a hotshot who loves taking chances and definitely makes his share of mistakes. But a lot of his chances come up big too, thanks in part to the big-time receivers he's had. At one point he had both Muhsin Muhammad and Steve Smith making-- unreal! Two years ago Muhammad was an elite NFL WR and last year Smith was.

John Fox knows that Jake is not the most accurate QB but he knows how to make big plays. They've made sure Delhomme is covered in Carolina with WR's that go up and get the ball. I think Delhomme would have had success in Dallas with Galloway and TG. As it stands, with Keyshawn down there Delhomme's going to have another very good year.

 

[acheman]

No I think the point of the thread was just because he is NOT leading Europe in stats, is not enough reason to throw in the towel. Based specifically on comparisons to Delhome's stats when he was in Europe and how well he has turned out.

 

[RCowboyFan]

Isn't that what this thread was about.....his NFL Europe stats (which all factor into QB rating).

If you are going to try and draw a comparison from Henson to Delhomme because of their NFL Europe stats.....then you better acknowledge that there are two players over there putting up better stats, and they should draw more favorable comparisons. :

Figures that you don't know what the thread was about. The thread was about his ratings comparing favorably to Jake in the sense of what they both they did/are doing in NFL Europe. But its also about ability not just stats.

Henson was highly rated prospect not just a scrub trying to get a job in NFL Europe, and someone who is showing, if you bothered to see the games in NFLE, why he was rated so high or thought of so high when he played in college, even with limited playing time.

Second I didn't start the thread or say anything about comparing them both or ever say stats indicate the potential. If so there are lots of college QBs who should have been Super Star QBs in NFL

 

[SmellsLikeTuna]

Figures that you don't know what the thread was about. The thread was about his ratings comparing favorably to Jake in the sense of what they both they did/are doing in NFL Europe. But its also about ability not just stats.

I just went back and read the first post again (maybe you should too)....it's all about stats. Nothing about "if you watch them play.......".

You make perfectly valid points in your last post, but that's not what I was replying to.

 

[acheman]

Well if you read the first post you know Delhomme did not lead NFL Europe in stats either. And that is the point of the thread. You don't have to put up huge stats to be a good QB. For Example See Troy Aikman.

 

[SmellsLikeTuna]

Well if you read the first post you know Delhomme did not lead NFL Europe in stats either. And that is the point of the thread. You don't have to put up huge stats to be a good QB. For Example See Troy Aikman.

So why bother comparing his stats to Delhomme's??? There are probably 30 or so QB's who have put up similar NFL Europe stats, who's names no one here would even recognize. The stats comparison is basiscally useless.

It seems like you are saying that the thread is more defending Henson, than hyping him up......if that's the case then I did miss that. I wouldn't think that his performance thus far in NFL Europe required any defense. He's played fine. I just don't think that his stats are any indicator that he will have NFL succeess, which I took as the point.

 

[SkinsFan26]

I bet Henson gets the Cowboys closer to a Super Bowl victory than Campbell will the Rednecks.:starspin

I don't think Henson will ever start for the Cowboys...unless Bledsoe gets injured this year. The Boys will draft, sign, or trade for a QB in the 07 offseason.

So, I'll take your bet.

 

[acheman]

If he never starts a game for the Cowboys he will get them just as close as Campbell will the Skins to the Super Bowl.

 

[acheman]

"So why bother comparing his stats to Delhomme's??? "


I did not start the thread so I honestly do not know if I have misconstrued it's intent, but what I took from it was he is doing better than Jake did and look how well Jake has turned out. More of a defense against all those guys saying it is just Europe and he should be lighting up the league.

 

[AdamJT13]

When it was announced that Henson was going to NFL Europe, a lot of people said if he didn't tear up the league and win MVP, etc., then that proved he'd never be an NFL quarterback. And each week, some people have claimed that Henson should be putting up huge numbers against terrible NFL Europe competition, like any decent high school quarterback could. I might be exaggerating slightly, but those have been the gist of quite a few posts.

The original post in this thread debunks the myth that a decent NFL quarterback should put up huge numbers every week in NFL Europe, or that Henson will never be one because he's not leading the league in whatever.

As far as Jeff Otis or Gibran Hamdan being better NFL prospects because they have higher passer ratings after four games, that's akin to saying Drew Olson should be drafted ahead of Matt Leinart, or Matt Kubik should be drafted ahead of Jay Cutler, since they had higher efficiency ratings in 2005.

 

[SmellsLikeTuna]

When it was announced that Henson was going to NFL Europe, a lot of people said if he didn't tear up the league and win MVP, etc., then that proved he'd never be an NFL quarterback. And each week, some people have claimed that Henson should be putting up huge numbers against terrible NFL Europe competition, like any decent high school quarterback could. I might be exaggerating slightly, but those have been the gist of quite a few posts.

The original post in this thread debunks the myth that a decent NFL quarterback should put up huge numbers every week in NFL Europe, or that Henson will never be one because he's not leading the league in whatever.

As far as Jeff Otis or Gibran Hamdan being better NFL prospects because they have higher passer ratings after four games, that's akin to saying Drew Olson should be drafted ahead of Matt Leinart, or Matt Kubik should be drafted ahead of Jay Cutler, since they had higher efficiency ratings in 2005.

Ok....I took the thread the wrong way then. :

 

[Hostile]

When it was announced that Henson was going to NFL Europe, a lot of people said if he didn't tear up the league and win MVP, etc., then that proved he'd never be an NFL quarterback. And each week, some people have claimed that Henson should be putting up huge numbers against terrible NFL Europe competition, like any decent high school quarterback could. I might be exaggerating slightly, but those have been the gist of quite a few posts.

The original post in this thread debunks the myth that a decent NFL quarterback should put up huge numbers every week in NFL Europe, or that Henson will never be one because he's not leading the league in whatever.

As far as Jeff Otis or Gibran Hamdan being better NFL prospects because they have higher passer ratings after four games, that's akin to saying Drew Olson should be drafted ahead of Matt Leinart, or Matt Kubik should be drafted ahead of Jay Cutler, since they had higher efficiency ratings in 2005.

Right on the friggin' :money: Adam.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Um, you think 5' 10" Steve Smith won a lot of jump balls?

have you seen Smith jump? he must have a 41 inch vert

 

[Bob Sacamano]

When it was announced that Henson was going to NFL Europe, a lot of people said if he didn't tear up the league and win MVP, etc., then that proved he'd never be an NFL quarterback. And each week, some people have claimed that Henson should be putting up huge numbers against terrible NFL Europe competition, like any decent high school quarterback could. I might be exaggerating slightly, but those have been the gist of quite a few posts.

The original post in this thread debunks the myth that a decent NFL quarterback should put up huge numbers every week in NFL Europe, or that Henson will never be one because he's not leading the league in whatever.

As far as Jeff Otis or Gibran Hamdan being better NFL prospects because they have higher passer ratings after four games, that's akin to saying Drew Olson should be drafted ahead of Matt Leinart, or Matt Kubik should be drafted ahead of Jay Cutler, since they had higher efficiency ratings in 2005.

 

[Jarv]

So the two NFL Europe QB's who are rated better than Henson this year......what are they going to be?? Manning? Brady??

Rated better ?

Henson is 4-0 ? What NFLE QB is rated better than that ?

In QB rating based on stats, Brady is lifetime 88.5

Manning lifetime is 93.5

Which has the most SB wins ?

 

[5Stars]

I don't think Henson will ever start for the Cowboys...unless Bledsoe gets injured this year. The Boys will draft, sign, or trade for a QB in the 07 offseason.

So, I'll take your bet.

:dissskin:

 

[AdamJT13]

Other than being 4-0, probably the most impressive stat for Henson is the length of the possessions he has played since early in the first game. Over his past 25 possessions (excluding run-out-the-clock possessions), he has gone three-and-out only three times. Seven of those possessions lasted at least 10 plays, twelve went at least eight plays, and 18 of them went at least seven plays. His average possession has been 7.7 plays and 38 yards. Sixteen of his 25 drives reached the red zone, and three more went far enough for a field-goal attempt. Those are excellent drive stats.

 

[Hostile]

Other than being 4-0, probably the most impressive stat for Henson is the length of the possessions he has played since early in the first game. Over his past 25 possessions (excluding run-out-the-clock possessions), he has gone three-and-out only three times. Seven of those possessions lasted at least 10 plays, twelve went at least eight plays, and 18 of them went at least seven plays. His average possession has been 7.7 plays and 38 yards. Sixteen of his 25 drives reached the red zone, and three more went far enough for a field-goal attempt. Those are excellent drive stats.

Yeah they are, at any level.