DT Rogers wants out

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Mangini reaching out to disgruntled Browns DT Rogers
By Adam Schefter | NFL.com



As much as Eric Mangini has tried to change the culture in Cleveland, one of his biggest challenges now is changing the mind of Browns defensive tackle Shaun Rogers.

Rogers has grown so disenchanted with the situation in Cleveland that he has asked the Browns not to pick up the $6 million option-bonus payment due to him next month, a source close to the defensive tackle said. Rogers would rather be released after one season with the Browns, despite still being owed another $15 million in guaranteed money.

The Browns said Rogers hasn't asked them to be released.

Shaun Rogers, DT
Cleveland Browns

2008 Statistics:
Games/Starts: 16/16
Tackles: 76
Sacks: 4.5
Cutting Rogers would be difficult to do financially. If the Browns release Rogers, they would have to count more than $9.7 million against their salary cap.

Cleveland has no intention of getting rid of Rogers. It wants him back as the productive team member he was last season, when he was selected to the Pro Bowl. Browns coach Eric Mangini, according to those within the Cleveland organization, is still optimistic that he can change Rogers' mind once the two men speak. Mangini is said to have recently reached out to Rogers. Those who know Rogers say his mind will not be changed.

But Mangini has had success in these types of settings. When he arrived in New York as the Jets' coach in 2006, wide receiver Laveranues Coles was, at best, a skeptic, but Mangini eventually won him over.

Mangini has said publicly that when change occurs, as it did in Cleveland, there is uncertainty and that can create misunderstandings like the one that has happened now.

Some of Rogers' feelings stem back to two offseason incidents in which he believes Mangini disrespected him. The first time, Mangini walked into the Browns' training room and failed to say hello to Rogers. The next time, at a public charity function in which both men were in the green room, neither said hello to the other, and Mangini later said he didn't know Rogers was there.

"Anytime someone new comes in, there's a process of getting to know that person," Mangini said Feb. 4. "I feel really comfortable with who I am and the things I do. I know that everything is done for a very specific reason and that is to give us the best chance to win. I feel really good about the relationships that I had in New York with the players there. I think that the things that they have said are things I feel really good about. I anticipate having those same types of relationships here."

The Browns believe that, once Rogers hears out Mangini, the same will occur. The situation will be soothed over, hard feelings will dissipate and Cleveland will have a happy defensive tackle.

"I didn't realize Shaun was there at the time," Mangini said earlier this offseason of the green-room incident. "I know it's probably hard to believe considering how big he is and how big I am. I feel really good about watching him on tape. I always appreciate 360-pound nose guards. He's powerful, disruptive, has a high motor, and I’m looking forward to that."

Some believe there are other reasons driving Rogers' desire to leave the Browns. But before the situation is resolved, Mangini will have his say with the player whose mind he now must change.

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Well... since everyone else was posting about possible FAs, he would definitely be an upgrade over Tank. Won't happen though unless a trade occurs I am sure.
 

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Hoofbite;2652721 said:
Hes a fat and lazy slob.

No thanks.

He's had trouble with weight and conditioning but last year was a good year for him. He deserved his Pro Bowl invite. 360lb men aren't like the dancing hippos in Fantasia. If he could play 60% of defensive snaps I'd be very happy.
 

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He feels disrespected? Boo hoo. Poor baby.

No way i want his attitude any where near our team. He is so loyal to the Browns and his teammates that he went to war with for 16 weeks last year that he wants out because the coach didnt recognize him at a charity function........ get over it....

Can you imagine having a job where you were guaranteed 15 million dollars and you want to be fired because a new boss at your company didnt recognize you at a charity event.
 

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jobberone;2652758 said:
He's had trouble with weight and conditioning but last year was a good year for him.

...and people want to draft Brace. He has had weight and conditioning problems too. I'm willing to bet his constant back problems last year were from being overweight and not enough gym work.
 

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superonyx;2652863 said:
He feels disrespected? Boo hoo. Poor baby.
Hah, wait till he gets a load of the Cowboys fans. Disrespected doesn't even begin to describe the abuse he will get here with his fat *** only playing half of the defensive snaps!
 

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The guy would be unstoppable if he became focused. He literally tosses people backward. Unfortunately he spends half the game trying to catch his breath. He is a waste of talent. So, he would fit in nicely around here.
 

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He is a monster, too bad he has to get oxygen every 3rd down.
 

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dmq;2652948 said:
The guy would be unstoppable if he became focused. He literally tosses people backward. Unfortunately he spends half the game trying to catch his breath. He is a waste of talent. So, he would fit in nicely around here.

If Ray Ray was here, I bet he would be working harder. ...but you can't have everyone with a salary cap in place.
 

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I'm really not a fan of Rogers. He has always come off as a guy who refuses to work hard and just loafs around getting by on physical talent alone.

Thanks, but no thanks.
 

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...and people want to draft Brace. He has had weight and conditioning problems too. I'm willing to bet his constant back problems last year were from being overweight and not enough gym work.

He would only have to take 30-40% of the snaps in this offense. But I wouldn't take him unless he was cheap which he wouldn't be even if he got out of Cleveland. Wade needs a quick NT more often than a fireplug. We can get a fireplug a lot cheaper who will be an adequate role player.
 

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I think we're in bad need of someone with a rear end who is hard to move. He's got his fireplug, so to speak, in Ratliff.
 

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We had a chance to draft him and picked Tony Dixon instead (a strong safety?). At least Rogers is still in the league.
 
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