Eagles/ Browns potential trade compensation set

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The compensation for a potential Cleveland Browns and Philadelphia Eagles trade down could be set according to Alex Marvez of FOX Sports. The 'template,' as Marvez calls it, came from the Los Angeles Rams and Tennessee Titans deal for the No. 1 overall pick. In exchange for the No. 2 overall pick, the Browns would receive the No. 8 overall pick, two third-round picks (No. 77, 79), a 2017 first-round pick and a 2017 third-round pick according to the local CBS Sports station in Philadelphia.

http://dal.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Eagles-Browns-trade-compensation-set-44913230
 

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Pretty much exactly as figured.
The other option would have been 2016 1st, one 3rd, 4th plus 2017 1st and 2nd

On the trade value chart, both this and the Rams trades are coming in about 10% under value...but the charts and future picks are all various shades of gray area anyway.

I know some here are bummed, but I hope they do this.
Basically takes them out of the draft for 2 years with no immediate help. Assume they'll see returns, if all goes perfectly for them, in 2018...or maybe the late 2017.
And if it doesn't work out, well, epic disaster.
If they get a long term Pro Bowl QB, this will be worth it though.
IF
 
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If a Division rival wants to give up a package equal to Great to take a player equal to Good, I'm completely in favor of it.

Also I think the fact the Browns are willing to trade out of 2 is more proof that the top two QBs are good but not great.
 

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That's a ton to give up.

Go get Matt Stafford if you want a QB that bad.

I'm sure he'll come cheaper than that.
 

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Schefter said this morning that he believes an offer has been made but doesn't believe they've finalized anything, even on a contingent basis. He seemed to think the Browns are going to wait it out until draft day because they have no reason not to unless someone gets completely crazy and gives them a ridiculous offer.
 

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Schefter said this morning that he believes an offer has been made but doesn't believe they've finalized anything, even on a contingent basis. He seemed to think the Browns are going to wait it out until draft day because they have no reason not to unless someone gets completely crazy and gives them a ridiculous offer.

Makes sense.
This is true especially if they only want to pay that for one of the QBs.
 

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There is also the very legitimate possibility that the Browns don't know what they are doing.

Or Philly, for that ,matter.

Emphasis from Hue Jackson vs Doug Pederson
Time will tell
 

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Schefter said this morning that he believes an offer has been made but doesn't believe they've finalized anything, even on a contingent basis. He seemed to think the Browns are going to wait it out until draft day because they have no reason not to unless someone gets completely crazy and gives them a ridiculous offer.

Makes complete sense...
 

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Why?

Before the Philadelphia Eagles trade away significant portions of the next two drafts, this is the question they'll have to resolve in their minds. Why is moving to the No. 2 overall pick worth it? And perhaps most important, why is a third offseason commitment to a quarterback necessary?

Make no mistake, the Eagles are thinking about it. The Cleveland Browns and Eagles have engaged in conversations about the No. 2 pick, two league sources confirmed to Yahoo Sports. The sources declined to offer parameters, but Fox Sports' Alex Marvez reported the Eagles and Browns have reached a framework. In it, the Eagles would net the No. 2 overall pick in exchange for Philadelphia's first-rounder (No. 8 overall), two third-rounders (Nos. 77 and 79 overall), as well as a first- and third-round pick in the 2017 draft.

With Philadelphia already lacking a second-round pick this year, it would effectively strip out large portions of two drafts for the franchise. It would also ostensibly add a third quarterback – either Cal's Jared Goff or North Dakota State's Carson Wentz. As it stands, the belief in a handful of NFL personnel circles is that the Los Angeles Ramsprefer Goff's experience to Wentz's potential at the No. 1 overall pick. It would appear moving to No. 2 would be to draft Wentz, who would be added to a depth chart that includes Sam Bradford and Chase Daniel, a pair of quarterbacks who signed new deals this offseason.

On its face, accruing so many quarterbacks looks like personnel madness. But a deeper consideration reveals some method. In the ongoing scramble to find a 10-year franchise starter at quarterback, sometimes this is what it takes from a franchise. It's the most important position in the game, capable of turning a franchise into the right direction for a decade. So loading up with as many starting-quality candidates as possible and hoping for one to rise, well, that's certainly an aggressive approach.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/here-s...2-pick-051222418.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma
 

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The way things are going, we will know the 1st 8 picks before the weekend.

Rams - Goff
Eagles - Wentz
Chargers - Tunsil
Cowboys - Zeke
Jags - Jack
Ravens - Ramsey
49ers - Buckner
Browns - Bosa
 

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If a Division rival wants to give up a package equal to Great to take a player equal to Good, I'm completely in favor of it.

Also I think the fact the Browns are willing to trade out of 2 is more proof that the top two QBs are good but not great.

So you side with Cleveland's decision making? Based on their track record? OK.

But consider this:

Is there a more talent-starved team in the league? Or a team more in need of as many picks as they can get?
 

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The way things are going, we will know the 1st 8 picks before the weekend.

Rams - Goff
Eagles - Wentz
Chargers - Tunsil
Cowboys - Zeke
Jags - Jack
Ravens - Ramsey
49ers - Buckner
Browns - Bosa

I keep hearing that there's a lot of interest in teams trying to trade up with SD.

But wow, if the Browns get all of those picks, plus get Bosa at 8, that's a good start for them.
Then they get two extra 3rds this year...so plenty of ammo to trade up from the early second or 3rd into the 1st or 2nd round... if needed.
Then two 1st rounders next year, so the ammo to get the best QB in the draft then, if they wish.
Plus more
Nice.

btw, still don't see Dallas taking Zeke at 4. But I wouldn't whine about it if they did.
 

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The way things are going, we will know the 1st 8 picks before the weekend.

Rams - Goff
Eagles - Wentz
Chargers - Tunsil
Cowboys - Zeke
Jags - Jack
Ravens - Ramsey
49ers - Buckner
Browns - Bosa

I think they take Ramsey if he is there, I believe he is 2nd or 1st on our board.
 

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I keep hearing that there's a lot of interest in teams trying to trade up with SD.

But wow, if the Browns get all of those picks, plus get Bosa at 8, that's a good start for them.
Then they get two extra 3rds this year...so plenty of ammo to trade up from the early second or 3rd if needed.
Then two 1st rounders next, so the ammo to get the best QB in the draft then, if they wish.
Plus more
Nice.

btw, still don't see Dallas taking Zeke at 4. But I wouldn't whine about it if they did.

titans and browns will make out with these trades. I think Cowboys will go either Ramsey or Zeke, but that's just me.
 

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Wow. If that happens, Philly had better hope that they can develop whoever they draft. Two whole drafts essentially wiped out in search of a QB.
 

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Wow. If that happens, Philly had better hope that they can develop whoever they draft. Two whole drafts essentially wiped out in search of a QB.

Franchise QBs are a rare, very valuable commodity in today's NFL.

The price to obtain one in terms of draft picks is very high as seen by the Rams-Titans trade and the rumors of this trade. Similarly, the price to keep or sign one is also very high as evidenced by free agency this year. It is not going to get any better as college programs continue to gravitate away from Pro-Style offenses and QBs become less and less prepared for the NFL game.

This is but a glimpse into our future as we will eventually have to replace Romo. My concern as part of the "pro-QB" crowd is that we will likely not have another opportunity like this (#4 overall pick with a roster that is arguably talented enough to compete now). We will likely be picking in the later half of the first round next year and any year after that in which our core remains generally healthy. That means, that once Romo is gone, to find our next QB, we are going to have to do one of the following:

A. Get lucky with a mid to late round pick: History says this is a poor option to rely on.

B. Rely on free agency: Will be very expensive to sign anyone worth having.

C. Trade a truckload of picks to get into position to draft a top rated QB: They don't seem interested in trading up even though the cost to do so from #4 is probably as cheap as it will ever be.

D. Wait until we get another high draft pick: Could be a long wait, since we don't pick in the Top 5 (without trade) that often.....like once every 10 years or so? Will have to look that one up myself.

E. Wait until QB is the BPA at whatever pick you have in the mid-to-late 1st round ala Aaron Rodgers: May take a while for the stars to align just so.
 
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