Eagles fans think they have the best D in the NFC East... here's why

[big dog cowboy]

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

 

[Idgit]

:laugh2:

 

[Alumni2k11]

Even funnier as a gunner fan :-D

 

[Four]

I don't know..

Ware, Ratliff, and Newman seem to be pretty common names to my NFL Buddies. Most of them know Hamlin and James, as well.

newman hasn't been on anyone's tongue until he made the probowl.

When I used to bring him up to non dallas fans they would get the deer in the headlights look and laugh when I said he was a top 5 CB.

 

[LeonDixson]

I'd be hard pressed to say that both Philthy and New York will not have better defenses than us. The big difference IMO between ours and their's is that they get turnovers and we don't. They were both better than us last year.

Having said that, the fact that (if Johnson can't coach) both teams will have lost their D coordinator while Dallas will have Wade as DC all year this year might work in our favor. I think we have as much or more talent on D as either of those teams, but we haven't been as successful. We must learn to get turnovers and stop teams cold on 3rd down.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

From a standpoint of personnel philosophy, Eagles defenses over the past decade have been very similar to Cowboys defenses during the 1990s.

Aside from the obvious alignment similarity (4-3), both defenses value speed over any other attribute, and both refuse to pay a premium for linebackers. With the notable exceptions of the Cowboys' Ken Norton, Jr. and the Eagles' Jeremiah Trotter, linebackers tend to be of the plug and play variety -- players with a very specific skill set that is tailored uniquely for a particular system but is often a liability in other systems. Consequently, linebackers can be had cheaply. The success of both defenses is predicated largely on the defensive line; therefore, they place their emphasis there.

Comparing the modern incarnations of Eagles and Cowboys defenses is difficult because they utilize different alignments. However, here's my opinion:

1) The secondaries are a wash -- Hamlin is the most proven safety, but the Eagles hold an advantage at the second corner position where Sheldon Brown has more experience than either Jenkins or Scandrick.

2) Ware and Ratliff are more disruptive than any player(s) in the Eagles' front seven. However, the Eagles may have better talent throughout their front seven.

3) The biggest differences between recent Eagles and Cowboys defenses have been coaching and tenure of system. The Eagles have been using the same defensive system for a decade, and Jim Johnson is one of the best in implementing and deploying that system.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Jim Johnston isn't coming back?? Well I wish him good health, I'm happy to hear he won't be controlling that D any more.

 

[Timbo2st]

Obviously, everyone has their own opinions. I think the Eagles D will be in the top 10 this year, but no matter how much Eagles fans deny it, losing Dawkins hurts. Maybe on the field we will be a little better, but in the locker room his speeches and pre-game routine will be missed. Hell, when watching tv, he would even get me pumped up.

 

[28 Joker]

That comment on Samuel tells you all you need to know about how CBs get "attention" or deemed good. Interceptions are just one area to measure a CB. He says that Samuel had a "down year".

Actually, Samuel had one of his best YPA years last year and had one of his best years. Samuel rated as one of Joyner's red CBs in 2008.

 

[burmafrd]

Newman is still better. The TO homer claiming otherwise just proves it.