Early 2014 thoughts

[Zimmy Lives]

Agree with some of your thoughts but we gave a TON of needs

Ware is staying

We need 2 more starters on the DL (1 DT and 1 DE) whether it is draft or FA or both

Do not sign hatcher to a long term deal, I have said if before , you don't give long term big money deals to players around 30 who suddenly gave career years in their contract year. Give hum a rd 1 tender and if someone pays him, you walk away with a rd 1 pick.

Need another OG

Need another LB

Need to decide what to do with Free. Would like him to prove it one more year because he was unable to focus after being paid the big money

Lots of questions

Agreed with everything you said -- not always the case!

The only thing I would add to it is: Dallas needs to draft the BPA regardless of position. I would love for them to target a DE/DT in the 1st round and a guard in the 2nd round of the 2014 draft but I would settle for the BPA.

 

[the playmaker]

Agreed with everything you said -- not always the case!

The only thing I would add to it is: Dallas needs to draft the BPA regardless of position. I would love for them to target a DE/DT in the 1st round and a guard in the 2nd round of the 2014 draft but I would settle for the BPA.

No no no..."the 2014 second round pick will be....a TE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" book this

 

[Zimmy Lives]

No no no..."the 2014 second round pick will be....a TE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" book this

Only if he is the second coming of TG.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

He hasn't covered particularly well. According to PFF, opposing QBs have had a 114.4 QB rating when targeting him:

Game 1: 115.3
Game 2: 118.8
Game 3: 39.6
Game 4: 79.2
Game 5: 109.0
Game 6: 106.3

In the run game he has been a punishing physical presence. In coverage, you have to hope he improves.

People see Church make a big hit and say, 'he's playing great', not even thinking about coverage. Problem is, Church and Wilcox basically play the same position, neither is a FS. When it comes to safety play, some think we can get by with marginal talent back there, but in this passing league we still need to upgrade the position.

Church would make a pretty good LB in this scheme, but really we need a FS back there. Church will have his good games, but on average he will always be deficient in coverage.....we need an upgrade.

 

[Future]

If Ware had better help on the DLine, I think he'd be his usual self. Having Ratliff and Spencer missing has really hurt.

I don't buy into that one bit. He's playing right next to Hatcher on a lot of snaps, and he's been every bit as good as either of those two guys have ever been.

And he's not really getting double teamed or anything, so it doesn't much matter who is next to him.

 

[LatinMind]

Do you have any idea, the amount of dead money, the Cowboys would incur by getting rid of 3 of those players, and then you want to sign an aging DT, who has had 1 good season? This isn't Madden.

Hatcher has been good for the past 3 yrs if you include this one. And he is in his prime right now. He's 31 but he has little wear on his body because basically he barely started playing fulltime 3 yrs ago. He's been behind players the first part of his career. hatcher has 13.5 sacks in the last 3 yrs. and two of them yrs were playing in a 3-4. IDK where you get having 1 good yr.

They will have dead money but thats just the way it is. They are going to have dead money with Ratliff, and Austin. Because neither is going to be back. but its not big dead money. Austin will be 7.5 mil in dead money spread over 2 yrs because he will most likely be a june cut. 3.75 mil but it saves you 4.7. Ratliff 6.9 mil june cut 3.45 saves you 3.55 mil. So that alone saves you 7.2 mil in cap. Now with Ware while i dont think they will cut or trade him i simply said they should. But if they did this here will blow your mind will be 8.5 mil dead money june cut he will be 4.25 mil on the cap but cutting him saves Dallas 11.75 mil.. So cutting Ratliff Austin and Ware, saves you roughly 19 milin 2014. But im sure they would trade Ware if he wasnt in Dallas. IDK if you can cut that money owed in 2 if he's traded.

Romo is going to restructure again giving him more money up front in signing bonus money So thats more money.

This doesnt have to be Madden to see that this is whats best for the Cowboys future instead of looking at it the way you are. It can be done, and you couldve seen it and thought about your post twice instead of just assuming these guys tie down the team. If only you wouldve looked it up.

 

[LatinMind]

Agree with some of your thoughts but we gave a TON of needs

Ware is staying

We need 2 more starters on the DL (1 DT and 1 DE) whether it is draft or FA or both

Do not sign hatcher to a long term deal, I have said if before , you don't give long term big money deals to players around 30 who suddenly gave career years in their contract year. Give hum a rd 1 tender and if someone pays him, you walk away with a rd 1 pick.

Need another OG

Need another LB

Need to decide what to do with Free. Would like him to prove it one more year because he was unable to focus after being paid the big money

Lots of questions

You move on from Hatcher in your way of thinking you need 3 starters. If Ware were to stay with the Cowboys i think they would only need 1, and DT opposite Hatcher because IMO Dallas has its LDE in Selvie. Then you take into account Tyrone Crawford. I think he could start opposite hatcher and play DT. You have Hatcher, Crawford, Hayden, Nevis and Bass. Wilber and Rayford backing up DE.

Need a OG but not early. Dallas likes Arkin, and i think they are developing him. He actually looked decent in preseason. I might be ready next yr. But id Like Waters to come back and how he's stabilized this OL im sure the team would want him back.

LB, Im guessing they'd want Holloman to take over and i could see that happening.

Free will be in Dallas period.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Hatcher has been good for the past 3 yrs if you include this one. And he is in his prime right now. He's 31 but he has little wear on his body because basically he barely started playing fulltime 3 yrs ago. He's been behind players the first part of his career. hatcher has 13.5 sacks in the last 3 yrs. and two of them yrs were playing in a 3-4. IDK where you get having 1 good yr.

They will have dead money but thats just the way it is. They are going to have dead money with Ratliff, and Austin. Because neither is going to be back. but its not big dead money. Austin will be 7.5 mil in dead money spread over 2 yrs because he will most likely be a june cut. 3.75 mil but it saves you 4.7. Ratliff 6.9 mil june cut 3.45 saves you 3.55 mil. So that alone saves you 7.2 mil in cap. Now with Ware while i dont think they will cut or trade him i simply said they should. But if they did this here will blow your mind will be 8.5 mil dead money june cut he will be 4.25 mil on the cap but cutting him saves Dallas 11.75 mil.. So cutting Ratliff Austin and Ware, saves you roughly 19 milin 2014. But im sure they would trade Ware if he wasnt in Dallas. IDK if you can cut that money owed in 2 if he's traded.

Romo is going to restructure again giving him more money up front in signing bonus money So thats more money.

This doesnt have to be Madden to see that this is whats best for the Cowboys future instead of looking at it the way you are. It can be done, and you couldve seen it and thought about your post twice instead of just assuming these guys tie down the team. If only you wouldve looked it up.

Article I posted several weeks ago. Good read concerning a football player and his prime years.

http://thesportdigest.com/archive/article/when-does-football-player-get-old

 

[xwalker]

Ratliff and Austin are near break even if cut vs kept/resrructured. Getting rid of their base salaries offsets the dead money. The team actually gets about 500k each of cap space by cutting them.

Ware's base salary is 12.2M and his cap hit without restructuring is 16M. The team gains about 3.2M in 2014 by cutting vs restructurimg his contract. If restructured, most of the 12.2M would hit the cap in future years.

It's doubtful that anyone would trade for Ware with his contract. The Cowboys can probably get more production for their money by cutting him. His shoulder/neck/stinger iissues have become a chronic problem and have drastically limited his effectiveness the past few games.

 

[CashMan]

This doesnt have to be Madden to see that this is whats best for the Cowboys future instead of looking at it the way you are. It can be done, and you couldve seen it and thought about your post twice instead of just assuming these guys tie down the team. If only you wouldve looked it up.

LOL....Coming from the guy wanting to hand a 30yr old DT a mult-year deal, get real! The amount of dead money, does not make sense, when you can still get something out of Austin and Ware, and have to pay their replacements.

 

[LatinMind]

LOL....Coming from the guy wanting to hand a 30yr old DT a mult-year deal, get real! The amount of dead money, does not make sense, when you can still get something out of Austin and Ware, and have to pay their replacements.

Austins replacement is already on the team if you havent noticed. Ware's replacement...well u cant replace a guy like that but u can get guys to just play the posistion. Wilber and a rookie. Its fans like you that say they cant cut them because they have to get somebody to replace them. But the following yr cry about keeping players too long.

 

[LatinMind]

Article I posted several weeks ago. Good read concerning a football player and his prime years.

http://thesportdigest.com/archive/article/when-does-football-player-get-old

nice article but i didnt like that it basically was limited to QB RB and WR as their examples.

 

[Ratmatt]

Ware, Spencer, Ratliff, Austin, and possibly Murray could be gone. Ware IMO should be traded I dont think he'll be playing by the time 2015 comes around. The guy is just not the same anymore. His decline has come fast and IMO it started with the neck issues. That IMO led to other inuries and so forth. Spencer Ratliff Austin and Murray are all replaceable, Spencer,Austin and Ratliff have already been replaced. Not only would it be smart to rid themselves of this group but it would free up much needed cap.

Dallas should try to get Waters to come back atleast for 1 more yr. Guy has brought a nasty attitude with him to this OL. Im hoping Dallas drafts atleast another G in this draft to develope.

There are going to be two RBs available this yr as UFA that i would love to have in Dallas. First being Ben Tate and then there is LeGarrett Blunt.

I can see, and im hoping to see Church come off the bench in situations, that is if Wilcox can improve alot. If not start Church at SS and go out and get a real FS. Church and Wilcox are a force tackling but are a liability in coverage.

Dallas Should sign Hatcher. It will cost some money but he's worth it. Its obvious Dallas has some players at DT that can get the job done with hustle. And they can draft a DT high in the draft and pay a lower salary.

Lber is well taken care of with Lee and Carter leading the way. I can see Holloman starting in '14. Some depth is needed IMO. I dont think Durant or Sims will be back.

Dallas has a young group and i think they will get younger in '14. Id like it if they went with the draft instead of FA to fill most of its holes. RD1 pick IMO should be either DE/DT/S one of these 3. Other then QB high in the draft I dont think Dallas needs anybody high in the draft. And even then i cant see them going RD1 QB with just giving Romo 100mil.

I think Ware will be back for sure,and Murray most likely.I think Ratliff and Austin will be gone,and Spencer probably.I agree with you on the G situation.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

No way will Austin and Ware be gone.

It would decimate the Cowboys cap because those players would have their bonuses immediately rolled into the current cap figure... The result is that the Cowboys would need to release other players to release these players.

Not going to happen.

 

[LatinMind]

No way will Austin and Ware be gone.

It would decimate the Cowboys cap because those players would have their bonuses immediately rolled into the current cap figure... The result is that the Cowboys would need to release other players to release these players.

Not going to happen.

How will it decimate the Cowboys? If Dallas wouldve cut Ware this yr he wouldve counted 15.8 mil just for cutting him. His remaining guarantees per yr are

2014 3.75mil
2015 3.75 mil
2016 1.32mil
2017 1.32mil

most of Wares salary this yr in form of a bonus because he's only making 940k on a base.

Austin is

2014 2.74mil
2015 2.74mil
2017 1.7mil

Remember most of his guaranteed money was paid on the day he signed his contract. Thats why Dallas had the penalty. Most of this guaranteed money he has now is because he restructured his base this yr for cap relief.

Most of you dont pay attention to the way Dallas structures its contracts. While they might seem like over the top they design them that way to be able to get out of or restructure. Stephen has said this numerous times and fans just dont listen