Easier job for Garrett/Romo?

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Now, I know that 2008 stats mean jack for next season but, I noticed something about Dallas' opponents for next season compared to 2008 and what could benefit the passing game:

Passing defenses: #League Rank(Team)
2008: #1(PIT), #2 (BAL), #3(PHI), #4(TB), #7(WAS), #8(NYG), #12(GB), #14(CLE), #15(CIN), #19(STL), #20(SF), #22(ARI), #32(SEA).

2009: #3(PHI), #4(TB), #7(WAS), #8(NYG), #10(OAK), #12(GB), #16(CAR), #21(ATL), #23(NO), #26(DEN), #28(KC), #31(SD), #32(SEA)

Outside of the division, Dallas could have an easier time than they did in last season. They'll be facing 6 teams ranked 20 or higher in 2009 compared to only 3 in 2008.

While I'm of the faction lamenting the loss of you know who, and despite the problems which are still apparent/unfixed in Dallas, this helped give me a little peace of mind (as reflected by my sigpic).
 

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I can't believe some are lamenting the loss of TO. I've been celebrating since I heard the news. Everyone who's disappointed should've seen this day coming from the time we signed him. I did. Total headcase. He was "surprised" when he got released. Definitely has a few screws loose. I wonder what team he'll choose when he enters the Hall of Fame?
 

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Regardless of who is on the scheduale, the spot light is clearly on Garrett and Romo in 2009. Garrett needs to find different and creative ways to get all his weapons involved in the game and Romo needs to step up as a leader and make better decisions. Whats his name is no longer around to act as a lightning rod.
 

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Well Garrett/Romo's job is gonna get easier cause they don't have to worry about gettin TO the ball. But the only question is that are they able to handle the media and such if they lose? But if they start excelling its because play calling is gonna be different. And the real good thing about letting Roy be the #1 reciever is that he understands the importance of the run, so hopefully he will help push the run before the pass, enabling us to excel behind our three headed monster.
 

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Jon88;2679593 said:
I can't believe some are lamenting the loss of TO. I've been celebrating since I heard the news. Everyone who's disappointed should've seen this day coming from the time we signed him. I did. Total headcase. He was "surprised" when he got released. Definitely has a few screws loose. I wonder what team he'll choose when he enters the Hall of Fame?

Agreed, I liked aspects of to's game but there were still too many negatives overall. I gotta laugh at the thought of him freezing in Buffalo whilst the cowboys sparkle in the new stadium. He must have thought that setting was made for him :laugh1:
 

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BigBoy63;2679604 said:
Well Garrett/Romo's job is gonna get easier cause they don't have to worry about gettin TO the ball.

There's flaw in thinking Garrett's jobs gets easier without TO, so does the job of every defense game planning for us, which in turn means Garrett's job gets harder
 

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Ren;2679653 said:
There's flaw in thinking Garrett's jobs gets easier without TO, so does the job of ever defense game planning for us, which in turn means Garrett's job gets harder
This wasn't intended as a TO-related thread.

This is about the passing game as a whole and the kind of defenses that Dallas will be facing next season. Recall how some of the Ravens players mocked Garrett's gameplan and how "easy" it was for them to break it down.

The 2ndaries and passrushes Dallas will be facing may not be to the level they were during the 2008 season. This can benefit the OLine and Romo a lot in the passing game. I think it's something very encouraging to look forward to next season. Hopefully it takes a tiny bit of pressure off of Garrett and the Oline/Romo.
 

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EPL0c0;2679667 said:
This wasn't intended as a TO-related thread.

This is about the passing game as a whole and the kind of defenses that Dallas will be facing next season. Recall how some of the Ravens players mocked Garrett's gameplan and how "easy" it was for them to break it down.

The 2ndaries and passrushes Dallas will be facing may not be to the level they were during the 2008 season. This can benefit the OLine and Romo a lot in the passing game. I think it's something very encouraging to look forward to next season. Hopefully it takes a tiny bit of pressure off of Garrett and the Oline/Romo.

well u cant discuss the passing without mentioning the loss of owens. because there will be a loss there with him not being there.
 

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i suspect that...if garrett could not find a way (adjust) to use all of the weapons that he had in 2008...things will not get easier with one less.
 

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EPL0c0;2679584 said:
Now, I know that 2008 stats mean jack for next season but, I noticed something about Dallas' opponents for next season compared to 2008 and what could benefit the passing game:

Passing defenses: #League Rank(Team)
2008: #1(PIT), #2 (BAL), #3(PHI), #4(TB), #7(WAS), #8(NYG), #12(GB), #14(CLE), #15(CIN), #19(STL), #20(SF), #22(ARI), #32(SEA).

2009: #3(PHI), #4(TB), #7(WAS), #8(NYG), #10(OAK), #12(GB), #16(CAR), #21(ATL), #23(NO), #26(DEN), #28(KC), #31(SD), #32(SEA)

Outside of the division, Dallas could have an easier time than they did in last season. They'll be facing 6 teams ranked 20 or higher in 2009 compared to only 3 in 2008.

While I'm of the faction lamenting the loss of you know who, and despite the problems which are still apparent/unfixed in Dallas, this helped give me a little peace of mind (as reflected by my sigpic).

Pretty telling that we only faced four teams in the bottom half of the league in passing defense. Wonder what 2007 looked like?
 

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EPL0c0;2679584 said:
Now, I know that 2008 stats mean jack for next season but, I noticed something about Dallas' opponents for next season compared to 2008 and what could benefit the passing game:

Passing defenses: #League Rank(Team)
2008: #1(PIT), #2 (BAL), #3(PHI), #4(TB), #7(WAS), #8(NYG), #12(GB), #14(CLE), #15(CIN), #19(STL), #20(SF), #22(ARI), #32(SEA).

2009: #3(PHI), #4(TB), #7(WAS), #8(NYG), #10(OAK), #12(GB), #16(CAR), #21(ATL), #23(NO), #26(DEN), #28(KC), #31(SD), #32(SEA)

Outside of the division, Dallas could have an easier time than they did in last season. They'll be facing 6 teams ranked 20 or higher in 2009 compared to only 3 in 2008.

While I'm of the faction lamenting the loss of you know who, and despite the problems which are still apparent/unfixed in Dallas, this helped give me a little peace of mind (as reflected by my sigpic).
it should be as you said a much easier time for them but with garrett who knows

those defenses are no where as good as the ones we faced last yr so theres no excuses to be made.
 

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Ren;2679653 said:
There's flaw in thinking Garrett's jobs gets easier without TO, so does the job of every defense game planning for us, which in turn means Garrett's job gets harder

He won't be criticized by TO to everyone on the team so that will make it easier. The defense already had an easy time gameplanning for us with TO. We have plenty of weapons to fill in for TO and I think Garrett will improve.
 

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deepBLUE;2679682 said:
i suspect that...if garrett could not find a way (adjust) to use all of the weapons that he had in 2008...things will not get easier with one less.

Of course he couldnt find a way to adjust, he was too busy appeasing the egotistical WR and the meddling owner instead of convincing Romo to do what he should be doing, which is throwing to the open guy instead of forcing it to one guy who teams were going to try and take away at all costs

Romo (when he is healthy) is a great QB who can spread the ball around. None of our skill guys have trouble getting open. Now that the guy who thinks he should get the ball every play no matter what is gone, he will do what he does best.

We're also gonna run the ball more this yr, which will make things easier.
 

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GOLDENCHILD1688;2679839 said:
it should be as you said a much easier time for them but with garrett who knows

those defenses are no where as good as the ones we faced last yr so theres no excuses to be made.
These are the run defenses Dallas will be facing in 2009:

#4(PHI), #8(WAS), #9(NYG), #11(SD), #17(NO), #18(SEA), #19(TB), #20(CAR), #25(ATL), #26(GB), #27(DEN), #30(KC), #31(OAK)

Again, while last year's rankings tend to not mean much in 2009, I think it can give a general plan of what to look for and how to possibly gameplan.

Looking at the run defense numbers, I'd say Dallas' offense should look to be a run-oriented offense. The question is can Garrett modify (open up) his (Tecmo) playbook to focus the offense on the strengths of Barber/Jones/Choice?
 

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BigBoy63;2679604 said:
Well Garrett/Romo's job is gonna get easier cause they don't have to worry about gettin TO the ball. But the only question is that are they able to handle the media and such if they lose? But if they start excelling its because play calling is gonna be different. And the real good thing about letting Roy be the #1 reciever is that he understands the importance of the run, so hopefully he will help push the run before the pass, enabling us to excel behind our three headed monster.
Yeah their Job is easier. Nothing harder than getting the ball to a HOF dynamic explosive threat. It will be much easier getting the ball to the great Austin, Crayton and Roy the "bad route running" williams, although we couldn't get it to them before, we'll miraculously be able to now find them opened. Not to mention, maybe we also out of the blue will discover the accuracy to get them the ball and not throw it to the other team.

We're on our way....yay!
 

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Clove;2679894 said:
Yeah their Job is easier. Nothing harder than getting the ball to a HOF dynamic explosive threat. It will be much easier getting the ball to the great Austin, Crayton and Roy the "bad route running" williams, although we couldn't get it to them before, we'll miraculously be able to now find them opened. Not to mention, maybe we also out of the blue will discover the accuracy to get them the ball and not throw it to the other team.

We're on our way....yay!

I wasn't sayin that Owens sucked, cause personally i liked TO. I was sayin that we don't have to worry about someone whinnin in Garrets ear everytime the ball isn't thrown to them.
 

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BigBoy63;2679904 said:
I wasn't sayin that Owens sucked, cause personally i liked TO. I was sayin that we don't have to worry about someone whinnin in Garrets ear everytime the ball isn't thrown to them.
1st off, we didn't know that he whined in Garrett's ear unless you were a coach on the staff or something. You want to believe, then believe it. You can believe what you want, regardless if it's factual or not.

So let's assume it's true. HOw do you know all of the receivers aren't in his ear? How do you know that the RBs aren't in his ear about HAND US THE DANG BALL? You don't know, but I'll guarantee you it happens.

But of course and according to most fans around here, TO is the only guy who's ever done this, although I've played and have seen it, although I'm a videographer for high school football, and I hear it all the time.

If you all want to say that he should've gone because he complains to the coaches about getting the ball, it's time to eliminate 90% of the receivers and running backs in the league.
 

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Clove;2679910 said:
1st off, we didn't know that he whined in Garrett's ear unless you were a coach on the staff or something. You want to believe, then believe it. You can believe what you want, regardless if it's factual or not.

So let's assume it's true. HOw do you know all of the receivers aren't in his ear? How do you know that the RBs aren't in his ear about HAND US THE DANG BALL? You don't know, but I'll guarantee you it happens.

But of course and according to most fans around here, TO is the only guy who's ever done this, although I've played and have seen it, although I'm a videographer for high school football, and I hear it all the time.

If you all want to say that he should've gone because he complains to the coaches about getting the ball, it's time to eliminate 90% of the receivers and running backs in the league.

But the difference between the other recivers complainin and TO complainin is that TO IS better, so he has a little more push when it comes to gettin his way.

And the reason i think the runningbacks don't complain is because they are getting decent reps, but now we should have a better running game then passing game.
 

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BigBoy63;2679949 said:
But the difference between the other recivers complainin and TO complainin is that TO IS better, so he has a little more push when it comes to gettin his way.

And the reason i think the running-backs don't complain is because they are getting decent reps, but now we should have a better running game then passing game.
He has no push if you have the ***** to not let it happen, I.E. Haley.

Example, Parcells' handled a slow TO clone in Keyshawn Johnson. The exact same guy with far less talent.

Parcells' couldn't handle Antonio Bryant, but seems like Chucky in TAmpa handled him pretty good. If you don't know how to handle these types of cats, you won't make it in this business.

I don't know how Garrett is going to handle Bennett in a year or 2, as Bennett is getting better and better, he is hard headed and has a strong will and personality, the type of player the typical Cowboy fan will eventually hate.
 

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Jon88;2679840 said:
He won't be criticized by TO to everyone on the team so that will make it easier. The defense already had an easy time gameplanning for us with TO. We have plenty of weapons to fill in for TO and I think Garrett will improve.

Figuring out how to cover Witten while keeping bracket coverage on TO vs Figuring out how to cover Witten, hmmm... think i'd prefer the ladder TBH


I don't know what's sadder Garrett putting the blame on TO for Garrett's shortcomings or the people buying into this BS thinking he's a great coach
 
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