Eisen: If you feel Ezekiel Elliott is the next La'Veon Bell....

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Eisen: ...If you think Elliot is a LeVeon Bell type of talent, you think he can bring to you what Bell is bringing to the Steelers, and you've got Romo for two, three, maybe four more years, and you've got Dez Bryant, how do you not pull the trigger on Elliot, and put a star on the side of his helmet, and go to work, see what you can do, and win a championship in the window that you might have?

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My first thought is "reach" BUT....if you are not sold on a QB and you don't feel Ramsey or Bosa are special enough to spend a 4th pick on, why not take a guy that has a chance to have the biggest impact in the draft? Of course, trading back to land him is the best option but if that can't be done, it won't be insanely high considering he has been a top 10 pick in a few mocks. There is a real chance that Elliott is the going to be the best offensive player in the draft and the thought of having a La'Veon Bell talent on this offense is quite intriguing.

I am still leaning towards QB but if you want a safe, impact player...it might not be a horrible spot to go if you feel Elliott can be one of the elite backs in the league.
 

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If the idea is to "win now" and maximize the next four years for Romo, then getting an elite back that can do everything is not a bad idea. In terms of impact, upgrading McFadden and getting the running game back to being dominant would be a boon.

Of course, I doubt the Cowboys would view it this way since all that is needed is a middle man between McFadden and the great and mighty Dunbar.
 

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IF I'm seriously considering Elliot, I would absolutely try to trade down a few slots. There will be plenty of teams coveting the 4th overall pick and, to me, that would be free extra picks.
Even just dropping to 8th or 9th could get you an extra 3rd and 4th. 10th or lower (riskier if you want Elliot) and you get an extra 2nd rounder while still getting Elliot in the 1st.
 

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Eisen: ...If you think Elliot is a LeVeon Bell type of talent, you think he can bring to you what Bell is bringing to the Steelers, and you've got Romo for two, three, maybe four more years, and you've got Dez Bryant, how do you not pull the trigger on Elliot, and put a star on the side of his helmet, and go to work, see what you can do, and win a championship in the window that you might have?

http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2016/02/26/rich-eisen-think-ezekiel-elliott-leveon-bell-type-talent-cowboys-pull-trigger

My first thought is "reach" BUT....if you are not sold on a QB and you don't feel Ramsey or Bosa are special enough to spend a 4th pick on, why not take a guy that has a chance to have the biggest impact in the draft? Of course, trading back to land him is the best option but if that can't be done, it won't be insanely high considering he has been a top 10 pick in a few mocks. There is a real chance that Elliott is the going to be the best offensive player in the draft and the thought of having a La'Veon Bell talent on this offense is quite intriguing.

I am still leaning towards QB but if you want a safe, impact player...it might not be a horrible spot to go if you feel Elliott can be one of the elite backs in the league.

In my mind it's simple.

Ezekial Elliott isn't winning you a championship.

If the QBs are gone off the board or you only like one and can't get that guy, and you don't like Bosa or Jack or Ramsey or Stanley or whomever at 4.............. you trade back. You don't take a TB at 4.
 

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In my mind it's simple.

Ezekial Elliott isn't winning you a championship.

If the QBs are gone off the board or you only like one and can't get that guy, and you don't like Bosa or Jack or Ramsey or Stanley or whomever at 4.............. you trade back. You don't take a TB at 4.

I tell you what u go ahead and take Bosa and ill take Elliott over Bosa because as u can see without room we are absolutely nothing lets protect him from himself give the ball to Elliot 25+ times a game and let him win it cause he can take it to the house
 

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In my mind it's simple.

Ezekial Elliott isn't winning you a championship.

If the QBs are gone off the board or you only like one and can't get that guy, and you don't like Bosa or Jack or Ramsey or Stanley or whomever at 4.............. you trade back. You don't take a TB at 4.

I agree trading back is the most favorable scenario but we may not have a ton of takers.

If Elliott is truly a special back, I would be a little nervous of the Giants snatching him. That offense would be scary if they added a special back to the mix.
 

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he yall the top picks are no longer getting 50 million before playing a down... our defense need playmakers in my opinion give me impact playmakers vs guys who can just cover but don't make plays our get sacks but not strip sacks.... we got enough of those good players we need play makers on defense and Elliot will keep the defense off the field which is what we want...
 

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I tell you what u go ahead and take Bosa and ill take Elliott over Bosa because as u can see without room we are absolutely nothing lets protect him from himself give the ball to Elliot 25+ times a game and let him win it cause he can take it to the house

One, was this in English?

Two, I never said I wanted Bosa.

Other than that.............
 

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I agree trading back is the most favorable scenario but we may not have a ton of takers.

If Elliott is truly a special back, I would be a little nervous of the Giants snatching him. That offense would be scary if they added a special back to the mix.

I will be real nervous if Giants get Elliott he will probly be the reason Romo doesn't get the chance to do a last second drive to win because we cant stop Elliott in the 4th qtr
 

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One, was this in English?

Two, I never said I wanted Bosa.

Other than that.............

yeah I do that sometimes press send without proof reading im just saying I disagree with the notion of you don't take this position at 4,when if we are going by BPA, Bosa is not better than Elliott PERIOD... that can be the difference between 3pts and 7pts because he will score if he gets in open field is all im saying he has that ability but I also a fan of Henry unlike most people on this board
 

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At 4, I might take a once in a generation type TB. Adrian Peterson, for example.

Elliott isn't that guy. So no, I don't take Elliott at 4. That would be a horrendous waste of resources at 4 IMO.
 

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Sometimes we get too caught in up on where a player is drafted. It's almost like feeling good about getting a "steal" or feeling bad that we "overpaid" is more important. If they put their board together and Elliott is best available at 4 then welcome aboard.
 

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At 4, I might take a once in a generation type TB. Adrian Peterson, for example.

Elliott isn't that guy. So no, I don't take Elliott at 4. That would be a horrendous waste of resources at 4 IMO.

Well it depends on what you define as "once in a generation". Behind this OL, Elliott could put up "once in a generation" numbers. McFadden is a pretty average back at this point and we turned him into a steady performer with no passing game. Murray was good, far from special and not as highly touted coming out as Elliott by any stretch. We turned a "good" back into a special back in Murray's case, imagine what we could turn what potentially could be a great back.

If he is a Bell clone and you aren't really in love with anyone else at that spot, it's not the worst option. Typically, I would pass on taking a RB so early but there really isn't many flashy players coming out of this draft. Bosa, Ramsey and the QBs all have more questions and a higher bust probability than Elliott.
 

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My counter argument is Deangelo Williams. Bell goes out and Williams stepped up and ran for 4.5 YPC and scored 11 TD's and the Steelers went on their way just fine.
Lynch went down and undrafted Rawls stepped up and ran great.
The bust McFadden ran great for us after being signed off of the scrap heap.

RB is the ultimate next man up position and guys can be found seemingly anywhere.
 

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Well it depends on what you define as "once in a generation". Behind this OL, Elliott could put up "once in a generation" numbers. McFadden is a pretty average back at this point and we turned him into a steady performer with no passing game. Murray was good, far from special and not as highly touted coming out as Elliott by any stretch. We turned a "good" back into a special back in Murray's case, imagine what we could turn what potentially could be a great back.

If he is a Bell clone and you aren't really in love with anyone else at that spot, it's not the worst option. Typically, I would pass on taking a RB so early but there really isn't many flashy players coming out of this draft. Bosa, Ramsey and the QBs all have more questions and a higher bust probability than Elliott.

But behind this OL, it's also quite possibly you could find a non first round TB and have a good enough running game to win a SB too.

Shoot, the guy that some were upset we let go to Philly was a 3rd round pick.
 

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Mike Mayock stole my answer:


Mayock: I would disagree. I would tell you that they're not going to be drafting at No. 4 again in the future, and they've got a 36-year-old quarterback that has not fininshed a season in three years, and if they think there's a franchise quarterback out there at No. 4 and he's available? To me, that trumps everything.

I can get my next starting running back in free agency. I can sign Lamar Miller or Doug Martin on day one of free agency.

Where's my next starting quarterback?
 

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My counter argument is Deangelo Williams. Bell goes out and Williams stepped up and ran for 4.5 YPC and scored 11 TD's and the Steelers went on their way just fine.
Lynch went down and undrafted Rawls stepped up and ran great.
The bust McFadden ran great for us after being signed off of the scrap heap.

RB is the ultimate next man up position and guys can be found seemingly anywhere.

I agree that the position can be easily replaceable but there are a few that stand out around the league. I think Bell is one of those players when he is on the field...he had over 2,000 combined yards his sophomore year and he is arguably the best all around back in the league. IF you feel Elliott can get that kind of production, why not?

I am more playing devil's advocate, if it was me...I will probably go QB but if you don't love what is available, Elliott is the safest pick.
 
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