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Well, I do have a problem with that .... but it has nothing to do with this conversation. I'm saying some fans over hype & over defend players individual accomplishments because the team doesn't have any.

If it had nothing to do with the conversation, you wouldn’t have brought it up. You’re continuing to mention it. You appear to be taking the teams lack of success into account when judging Martin. I’m sure a big part of the reason why you think Larry Allen and Erik Williams were leagues ahead of Martin is because the Cowboys won Super Bowls with them.