ESPN Chris Mortensen 10/31 Chat Wrap... 2 'boys

[Rack]

Chris Mortensen: (11:14 AM ET ) No, he's not nuts. The consensus of coaches and personnel men around the NFL is that Williams is not a Pro Bowl-caliber safety.

Yet those same "personnel men" keep voting him to the Probowl.


Mort is full of crap. He's wrong, as usual.

 

[AdamJT13]

I just remember seeing #30 showing up all over the field making tackles. He might have gotten abused in coverage, I wasn't watching that close.

Landry was all over the field -- getting beaten, missing tackles, getting run over, bouncing off Wes Welker, etc. He was credited with 14 tackles, but nine of those came on plays that picked up a first down, and three others came after gains of 7 yards or more on first-and-10. He had one assist after a 4-yard run on first-and-10, and he also was credited with a "solo" tackle on a play when he was the FOURTH defender in on the play and barely touched the guy in the pile before the whistle blew. (That play alone should prove why tackle stats kept at the game are not official.)

It's almost halfway through the season, and Landry has no interceptions, no forced fumbles, no fumble recoveries, half a sack and either one or two passes defended, depending on the source. He might be a good athlete with potential, but he sure hasn't done much yet this season.

 

[AdamJT13]

Yet those same "personnel men" keep voting him to the Probowl.

They also voted him the No. 1 safety in the NFL a few years ago, according to a poll of NFL front office personnel (GMs, scouts, etc.) by USA Today.

 

[Rampage]

They also voted him the No. 1 safety in the NFL a few years ago, according to a poll of NFL front office personnel (GMs, scouts, etc.) by USA Today.

well i guess things have changed since a few years ago, Tony

 

[gimmesix]

Frankly, they're both overrated.

Or maybe they are both rated where they belong.

I think a lot of people's standards/expectations are higher than the reality of the position. That reality is if you isolate a receiver or top-notch tight end on a strong safety, the offensive player should win most of those battles.

Now, Taylor being a "free safety" means he should be better in coverage, but I don't believe he's really a free safety.

 

[Rack]

They also voted him the No. 1 safety in the NFL a few years ago, according to a poll of NFL front office personnel (GMs, scouts, etc.) by USA Today.

Which leads me to believe that these personnel men aren't saying anything negative at all, it's the media making crap us as usual.