ESPN: Jerry Jones on Doug Free: "A lot of moving parts with Doug"

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Idgit;5076280 said:
He played poorly. I'd say horrible is an overstatement. It was an awful miss on his extension, though. Ratliff's most recent extension and Marion Barber's were both pretty bad, though, too, relative to their positions and the team's bargaining position for each.

Free got what was the market value at the time -- he had played very well leading up to that deal. He picked the right time to have a good year playing LT.

It didn't work out, but it is hard to say it was a bad decision. It was a good decision with a bad outcome.
 

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Galian Beast;5076368 said:
The echo chamber on Winston is hilarious. Not sure when he became the same player as Free. Early reports suggested that he was the best tackle available in free agency.

He wants one year for $3 million. That's it. And no one is offering.

His two former teams do not want him either.

I'd rather play Parnell and go get Moore to play guard.
 

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AbeBeta;5076418 said:
Free got what was the market value at the time -- he had played very well leading up to that deal. He picked the right time to have a good year playing LT.

It didn't work out, but it is hard to say it was a bad decision. It was a good decision with a bad outcome.

Yea, nobody though he would play like crap once he got paid.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;5076289 said:
We are on the hook for him at 6 Million regardless of his presence on the team or not and that can only be spread out over 2 years if he is a June 1st cut. Otherwise, it's all 6 accelerated and we can't take that hit no matter what the course of action is. That's why Jerry is so gun ho to keep Free on the team. He knows he can't afford to sustain that dead cap space and sign a decent replacement.

I think the Cowboys would love to sign Clabo to a one year deal, then draft a RT next year to play cheap while they absorb the $7 million hit from Free's deal.

But Clabo surely doesn't want a one-year deal.

So it might be a matter of signing Winston as a swing tackle for cheap and releasing Free. I don't think they mind playing Parnell at all.
 

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erod;5076422 said:
He wants one year for $3 million. That's it. And no one is offering.

His two former teams do not want him either.

I'd rather play Parnell and go get Moore to play guard.

Winstrom actually played pretty good for the Chiefs last year. They let him go because they franchised their LT Albert and drafted Fisher with the #1 pick. So they decided Winstrom's contract was too pricey for them.


My point is that he was not cut due to performance, he did not suck like Free, he was a cap casualty and the Cheifs wanted to go younger at the position.
 

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Galian Beast;5076368 said:
The echo chamber on Winston is hilarious. Not sure when he became the same player as Free. Early reports suggested that he was the best tackle available in free agency.
Broaddus has come out that Winston isn't any better. Winston definitely has his warts with a lot of penalties. And I also don't think teams like his run blocking unless it's in a pure ZBS system.
 

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The more I hear Jerry talk about this, the more I feel Free will remain a Cowboys for this season at least.
 

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erod;5076426 said:
I think the Cowboys would love to sign Clabo to a one year deal, then draft a RT next year to play cheap while they absorb the $7 million hit from Free's deal.

But Clabo surely doesn't want a one-year deal.

So it might be a matter of signing Winston as a swing tackle for cheap and releasing Free. I don't think they mind playing Parnell at all.

Sure -- but all deals for guys who are sitting on the market are basically one year deals anyway. this isn't about length, it is about bonus.
 

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Galian Beast;5076368 said:
The echo chamber on Winston is hilarious. Not sure when he became the same player as Free. Early reports suggested that he was the best tackle available in free agency.

From Sturm's article on Clabo and Winston (WG posted it earlier today):

"And that leads us to Winston and Clabo. After talking with a few people in NFL Personnel, the discussion rather quickly dismisses Winston as an upgrade. One simply said, "That wouldn't be an upgrade at all." It wasn't long ago that Eric Winston was thought of as solid down in Houston, but the feeling in the league right now is that he would be a solid backup option."

http://sturminator.blogspot.com/2013/05/what-are-we-doing-at-rt-tyson-clabo.html
 

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Lifetimeboyzfan;5076233 said:
Free is horrible. Worst extension we have given out in a long time, possibly ever...

No. I think Marion Barber was a lot worse deal.
 

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Verdict;5076455 said:
No. I think Marion Barber was a lot worse deal.

Agree that Free is not the worst. People forget the circumstances. Free was coming off a good year and had us over a barrel because we didn't have anyone to replace him. We had to pay him.

Barber is a different story. What kind of team spends a first rounder on a rB and still signs the current one to a $45m deal?
 

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AbeBeta;5076418 said:
Free got what was the market value at the time -- he had played very well leading up to that deal. He picked the right time to have a good year playing LT.

It didn't work out, but it is hard to say it was a bad decision. It was a good decision with a bad outcome.

I only fault the Cowboys for not finding out earlier what they did or didn't have there. They had to make a big decision on his extension without enough available evidence.

I'd have extended him, too. I actually think it was the right decision. But it ended up being a painful miss for us.
 

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TheCount;5076441 said:
The more I hear Jerry talk about this, the more I feel Free will remain a Cowboys for this season at least.

yes that been my thinking all along

when all you guys saying hes stinks etc

why did he start then ?
 
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