ESPN: Jerry Jones talks about the Rangers sale

[CCBoy]

:laugh2: No they can't! The Yankees can spend the way they do because they MAKE that much money every year! The Rangers on the other hand DO NOT! Cuban would go broke spending like the Yankees. Don't kid yourself.

Look at the Mavs, they have a salary cap, and Cuban is getting sued by Ross Perot Jr because he owns part of the team and they aren't profitable because Cuban doesn't know how to run them as a business.

The Yankees are not profitable until you add in the YES network. That is where the Yankees made their money. The YES network absorbs the Yankees losses from payroll and then some.

Now, the Texas Rangers aren't anywhere near the Yankees in popularity. On top of that, the Rangers don't own their own TV network. Now, if the Yankess are losing money even being the Yankees at a $209M payroll, how in hell would Cuban be able to afford a $200M payroll?

He couldn't. He would be in Tom Hick's shoes within 5-10 years. While the Rangers actually make pretty good money, it's nothing compared to what the Yankees make without the YES network.

Curiosity here now, but with the passing of Steinbrenner and a last minute and directional marriage of sorts with Jerry Jones, now how does direction now develop between the Yankees and Cowboys?

 

[YosemiteSam]

Curiosity here now, but with the passing of Steinbrenner and a last minute and directional marriage of sorts with Jerry Jones, now how does direction now develop between the Yankees and Cowboys?

Well, Hank Steinbrenner is now running the show. He (IMO) has a bigger ego than the late great George did.

What he does, I have no idea. I can't imagine he would breakup the Yankees and Cowboys vending partnership. (if that is what you're asking about)

 

[BlueStar3398]

When I went to bed last night, I thought Cuban had it! Congrats to Nolan Ryan!

I watched a video yesterday of Cuban & Ryan walking into court. Nolan Ryan was nice and polite to the reporters as he was walking in and answered a few questions. Cuban, on the other hand, was kind of a jerk in my opinion. He abruptly told them that he had to get in there. A cute young reporter asked him a question about owning 2 Dallas teams and he gave her a real smarta$$ reply. After that, I was hoping Nolan Ryan would win the bid. :laugh2:

 

[CCBoy]

Well, Hank Steinbrenner is now running the show. He (IMO) has a bigger ego than the late great George did.

What he does, I have no idea. I can't imagine he would breakup the Yankees and Cowboys vending partnership. (if that is what you're asking about)

As you pointed out, there is a lot of combustable ego not in play. I was wondering if Jerry might get involved in the media or at least be tempted to in addition. My guess is that he feels about maxed out with his own degree of sophistication in corporation and cash demands where they are. I'm really wondering if Hank Steinbrenner will now get greedy or lay back.

 

[Stautner]

See, I think Ryan is a brilliant man when it comes to business. He has built a beef business, and then also built a business on minor league baseball. (both successfully, unlike Mark's business ventures) I think the major were the next step and I think MLB getting someone like Ryan is a huge boon for them.

It's like the Salty trade. The Rangers were smart enough to know that Salty just wasn't going to cut it, so they traded him to help replenish some of the minor league talent they lost in the trades to improve the team this year for the playoff run.

Nolan is the best thing that has happen to the Rangers in a very long time. With him at the helm, I was incredibly excited about the Rangers. That hasn't happen in a very long time!

I love having Ryan involved, but his value is as a baseball man, not a business man. His contribution to the beef business was primarily the use of his name, and he never was very actively involved with the minor league teams. He hired others to do that, but his name gave the ownership group credibility. The same is largely true for the Rangers. He's an owner, but a small owner. He will, however, be more involved in the day to day business than his other ventures, but still much of his input will be to make sure baseball considerations are factored into the business decisions.

 

[DFWJC]

Wow, I knew about his involvement with Broadcast.com and HDnet but I didn't know he had ownership in Register.com (a domain registrar for people who don't know) .. Register.com was one of the worst registrar collapses in internet history.

-Reality

Cuban had a few very large successes before Broadcast.com. One example was his company called MicroSolutions--which he founded, grew, then sold to Compuserve.
He was a multi-millionaire (but not a billionaire) long before the Yahoo deal.
I know him a little, but have friends who have known him very very well...for 20 years.

I'll just say he is passionate and has grown up a whole lot since getting married and having kids. Like many owners or players/celebs, Cuban is not completely has poertrayed by 30 second to one minute clips on TV.

As for the Mavs' success--of course he deserves plenty of credit. It's very VERY hard to maintain an upper tier team for a decade or more. Yes the core was in place and they were on the rise when he got here, but nothing had come to fruition or had been maintained or grown.

I agree that some of he and Donny's trades have been silly. But few people nationwide would call Cuban a bad owner.

Having said that, I'm glad the Ryan group won the Rangers bidding!

 

[Number82]

I don't see anyone screaming to let Dirk go because he is on the wrong side of 30. Nash was still lighting up the league in 2003. The only issue at the time was him wearing down at the end of the season. With the drafting of Devin Harris that offseason, that would have been all the Mavs needed. Devin Harris would have afforded the Mavs to not play Nash as many minutes per game. Especially is blowout games. This could have saved Nash for the playoffs.

Didn't happen because a non-basketball guy was trying to make basketball personal decisions. I bet Don (and Donnie) Nelson was opposed to letting Nash walk that season.

People are screaming, but Cuban needs Dirk to make the playoffs. He obviously didn't need Nash and both Nash and the Mavs still have zero championships.

I highly disagree. Hesistant, maybe. But opposed, I'm not so sure. Like I said, for as good as Nash was and still is. He's a PG with bad knees. Dude can go down any minute. It's a shock to most people that Nash won two MVPs so late in his career.

Also, Dirk recently won the MVP. Nash hadn't come close to being MVP before Dallas let him go.

 

[dwdj75]

I love having Ryan involved, but his value is as a baseball man, not a business man. His contribution to the beef business was primarily the use of his name, and he never was very actively involved with the minor league teams. He hired others to do that, but his name gave the ownership group credibility. The same is largely true for the Rangers. He's an owner, but a small owner. He will, however, be more involved in the day to day business than his other ventures, but still much of his input will be to make sure baseball considerations are factored into the business decisions.

Is this post supposed to be a downside ? Sounds like exactly what I want in an owner.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I love having Ryan involved, but his value is as a baseball man, not a business man. His contribution to the beef business was primarily the use of his name, and he never was very actively involved with the minor league teams. He hired others to do that, but his name gave the ownership group credibility. The same is largely true for the Rangers. He's an owner, but a small owner. He will, however, be more involved in the day to day business than his other ventures, but still much of his input will be to make sure baseball considerations are factored into the business decisions.

Actually, Ryan owns three ranches that raise beef, and that is where a lot of Nolan Ryan beef comes from. He isn't in the beef business in name only. At one time he also was the majority owner of Express Bank, (two locations) but he sold his interest in those. He has also owned two restaurants though he sold one. Nolan Ryan's Bass Inn (sold, now just named The Bass Inn) and Nolan Ryan's Waterfront Steakhouse & Grill.

The two minor league clubs that he owns, he ran their operations in the beginnning. He taught his son Reid Ryan the business and now Reid serves as the Chief Executive Officer of Ryan-Sanders Baseball. (The entity that manages both Round Rock Express and Corpus Christi Hooks minor league teams)

He is an extraordinary business man and a baseball guy. I believe he is the best possible person to be acting president of the Texas Rangers. He is smart, business savvy, baseball savvy, and he has an incredible work ethic.

The Rangers are in good hands right now and I'm damn excited about that!

 

[Stautner]

Actually, Ryan owns three ranches that raise beef, and that is where a lot of Nolan Ryan beef comes from. He isn't in the beef business in name only. At one time he also was the majority owner of Express Bank, (two locations) but he sold his interest in those. He has also owned two restaurants though he sold one. Nolan Ryan's Bass Inn (sold, now just named The Bass Inn) and Nolan Ryan's Waterfront Steakhouse & Grill.

The two minor league clubs that he owns, he ran their operations in the beginnning. He taught his son Reid Ryan the business and now Reid serves as the Chief Executive Officer of Ryan-Sanders Baseball. (The entity that manages both Round Rock Express and Corpus Christi Hooks minor league teams)

He is an extraordinary business man and a baseball guy. I believe he is the best possible person to be acting president of the Texas Rangers. He is smart, business savvy, baseball savvy, and he has an incredible work ethic.

The Rangers are in good hands right now and I'm damn excited about that!

I knew he had ranches - always has. He grew up on one. The steak business is a different thing though. Experienced business people handled setting that up. I'm not saying he didn't have a hand in decisions, but he was part of the concept and not the guy with the experience or knowledge to set up the financing, the overall structure, the marketing and the advertsing. Same with the baseball clubs. He didn't just buy those and run them. He was ranching and had a role with the Astros at the time, and was not a nuts an bolts businessman. Again, I'm not saying he wasn't involved in the decision making, but Nolan was not the day to day guy running those minor league affiliates. He had the proper people in place to do that, and got his son involved so he wouldbe the one that knew the ins and outs of the business.

And also don't get me wrong and think I'm minimizing Nolan's role with the Rangers. Baseball factors are essential in running a baseball team. It can't be just the financing and structure and the marketing - the product has to be worthwhile. That's Nolan's value to the business. Making sure the product is good.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

Ryan may be the name most associated with the group and will be the team president but the man with the power will be CEO Chuck Greenberg and Rangers' fans should be happy with that.

What you should expect: a competitive team, year in and year out, based on sound decisions considering both financial and personel aspects but just as importantly, an improved fan experience. The Ballpark is great but look for tweaks in the future to benefit the fans.

You'll find out soon enough but trust me when I say that Chuck's one of the "good guys".