ESPN: Len Pasquarelli: Carr has Cost Texans Dearly

[Verdict]

Carr has not performed up to his draft staus, no doubt. The question in my mind is whether it was that he was never that good, a lack of supporting cast, or both.

I would love to see the Cowboys pick him up for a song and put him on the roster. I believe Carr has the physical tools. His confidence has to be at an all time low right now.

Carr could be a very rewarding project for the right team, but an effort would need to be made to restore the confidence he has lost in Houston.

 

[burmafrd]

Had to laugh at the comment where he said that Shaub is better then anyone they could get in the draft. How can anyone know that? This guy has not played enough to get much of a read on.
But mostly this column was dead on. The Texans management and coaches failed Carr a lot more then he failed them. It took them 4 years to get a good coordinator/QB coach. To even START to get a DECENT O line. By then it was too late. I think Carr still has a chance- but I doubt he will ever be what he COULD have been. Which was a very good QB. I wonder if the beating he took will take a toll on him years down the line. I bet it does.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Well, I look at Carr and I wonder, to myself, who could a team go out and draft on the second day that would be better then him? When Carr was evaluated by pro scouts, the talent was there. It hasn't gone anywhere. To me, if you wanted to pick up a guy that could become an excellent back up or possibly even quality starter, this is the guy. He's seen every defense, every blitz, been in every bad situation you could ever be in as a QB and he's still only 28. Don't you know that a guy has to be pretty damned loyal to a franchise to take the kind of beating this kid has taken for 4 years and still say that he wants to be in Houston more then any where else. To say nothing of the public ridicule he's taken. To me, this kid has just gotten a pretty raw deal. You can say that he hasn't done squate in 5 years but before you make that kind of statement, you gotta qualify it by saying that he hasn't ever had the talent to do much with. To me, he's shown more by sticking in there under the circumstances then most give him credit for. A lot of high profile QBs would have tried to get out of that contract a long time ago. JMO.

 

[siegbach]

Texans | Carr to be traded
Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:52:49 -0700
ESPNews reports Houston Texans general manager Rick Smith said that QB David Carr will be traded as soon as Thursday, March 22.







Dolphins | Carr a possibility
Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:17:42 -0700
Armando Salguero, of the Miami Herald, reports the Miami Dolphins may go after Houston Texans QB David Carr, who is available since the Texans traded for QB Matt Schaub.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

To put it simply, Carr sucks.

I admit that Houston's fans might have been a little too tough on him -- I was down there last year and heard a lot of that myself. And maybe he wouldn't have been ruined if he hadn't started out playing for such an awful team. But the fact is, he has a ton of Manning-itis where he whines, pouts, and generally has less than zero leadership ability. No way would I want him.

 

[joseephuss]

To put it simply, Carr sucks.

I admit that Houston's fans might have been a little too tough on him -- I was down there last year and heard a lot of that myself. And maybe he wouldn't have been ruined if he hadn't started out playing for such an awful team. But the fact is, he has a ton of Manning-itis where he whines, pouts, and generally has less than zero leadership ability. No way would I want him.

Even as a backup? Even if it costs very little because he is released? I wouldn't trade for him, nor would I offer him a big contract. If he doesn't get traded and ends up being cut, then I look into it for a decent price. He would not be bad for a 3rd string QB.

 

[arglebargle]

that is my point. He is a bad talent evaluator. The drafts and trades they made in houston are completely nuts.

The only thing they did right was take some good players off teams when they were allowed to pick players from each team.

Casserly was good at working out trades, but pretty bad at making decent picks with them. Houston management has been terrible. They made bad decision after bad decision. Carr's removal will just be the sacrificial scapegoat. Probably best for him though, and for the Texans as a whole. They can move on without all the bellyaching. Kubiak probably has two years now to turn it around. Better hope Schaub is as smart as they say....

 

[arglebargle]

Had to laugh at the comment where he said that Shaub is better then anyone they could get in the draft. How can anyone know that? This guy has not played enough to get much of a read on.
But mostly this column was dead on. The Texans management and coaches failed Carr a lot more then he failed them. It took them 4 years to get a good coordinator/QB coach. To even START to get a DECENT O line. By then it was too late. I think Carr still has a chance- but I doubt he will ever be what he COULD have been. Which was a very good QB. I wonder if the beating he took will take a toll on him years down the line. I bet it does.

Yep. Palmer has done nothing but go downhill since he took over the poor Browns. Houston (mis)management? Ouch.

Schaub has gotten extremely good reviews in Atlanta's training camp. Another situation where if the best guy had been chosen, he would have started, not Vick. But Vick sells a lot of jerseys, and gets the PR. And maybe four games out of the season he will dazzle you. No coach in Atlanta has figured out how to properly use Vick consistently though.

Maybe a year for Carr as a second stringer in a good program might help him decompress from those years of hits. Were I him, I would sign a one year deal with a decent team. And aim for the future after that.

 

[jay cee]

To put it simply, Carr sucks.

I admit that Houston's fans might have been a little too tough on him -- I was down there last year and heard a lot of that myself. And maybe he wouldn't have been ruined if he hadn't started out playing for such an awful team. But the fact is, he has a ton of Manning-itis where he whines, pouts, and generally has less than zero leadership ability. No way would I want him.

Thank you C-Lab. I don't get this Carr fetish. The guy has been a big part of the problem in Houston. It has not just been the o-line.

Even as a backup? Even if it costs very little because he is released? I wouldn't trade for him, nor would I offer him a big contract. If he doesn't get traded and ends up being cut, then I look into it for a decent price. He would not be bad for a 3rd string QB.

I think that's all he's worth, 2nd or 3rd string.

 

[jay cee]

Casserly was good at working out trades, but pretty bad at making decent picks with them. Houston management has been terrible. They made bad decision after bad decision. Carr's removal will just be the sacrificial scapegoat. Probably best for him though, and for the Texans as a whole. They can move on without all the bellyaching. Kubiak probably has two years now to turn it around. Better hope Schaub is as smart as they say....

The first bad decision was drafting Carr, because they wanted a QB to be the face of their new franchise. The 2nd was to make him the starter right away.

 

[Stash]

Sorry, but Fat Lenny's got it backwards (once again). The Texans cost Carr more tha he ever cost them.

Charley Casserly should be in jail for what he did to Carr and that team.

He had a year and a half headstart from the franchise's first game and screwed them up from day one.

Anybody remember how much they paid Tony Boselli from the Jaguars?

Anybody remember how many games Boselli played for them?

Looking for a good laugh? Go to NFL.com and pull up Houston's draft history.

The fact that anybody will still talk to Casserly amazes me.

Carr got killed to the tune of about 60 sacks a year and played the company man rather than rightfully complaining about the fact that his team couldn't protect him, and his 'thanks' is a ticket out of town.

Maybe he'll at least have a chance somewhere else.

 

[burmafrd]

NO QB in the NFL would have done much better then Carr did those first 3 years. Maybe after that someone could have- since by then Carr was fried.
I challenge any of these guys to find a QB that did any better getting sacked that often= and Carr is a lot more mobile then Bledsoe ever was, so trying to blame him for more then 10-20% of those sacks is just plain ignorant. I watched several Texan games in 2004, 2005 and it was like a grade school recess in the so called pocket. He would get hit by not just one guy, but sometimes several before he even got a chance to plant his feet.