ESPN Mosley: NFC East Pro Bowl Analysis

[RainMan]

But do you believe that Eli Manning should be the pro bowl alternate OVER Romo? That is just plumb crazy.

Is he really? I'll freely admit I've totally ignored paying attention to alternates today.

Eli Manning shouldn't be much higher than 7th on the list IMO. That's boggling.

 

[BAT]

Is he really? I'll freely admit I've totally ignored paying attention to alternates today.

Eli Manning shouldn't be much higher than 7th on the list IMO. That's boggling.

I saw it on WG's pro bowl thread here.

 

[gimmesix]

But do you believe that Eli Manning should be the pro bowl alternate OVER Romo? That is just plumb crazy.

Sheli is the fourth alternate behind Donovan McNabb (1st), Tony Romo (2nd) and Kurt Warner (3rd).

 

[InmanRoshi]

I could make an argument that Celek should've made it in front of Witten. Just look at the huge discrepancy in touchdowns.

Roy Williams ... 38 catches, 596 yards, 7 TDs.

Hines Ward ... 87 catches, 1106 yards, 6 TDs.

Sydney Rice ... 77 catches, 1200 yards, 6 TDs.

Look everyone, Roy Williams is better than Sydney Rice and Hines Ward. Look at the touchdowns. Why is everyone on his case?

 

[BAT]

Sheli is the fourth alternate behind Donovan McNabb (1st), Tony Romo (2nd) and Kurt Warner (3rd).

Now THAT makes more sense. Although McNabb over Romo is ridiculous too. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[Eskimo]

Vernon Davis drops too many passes, otherwise his numbers would indeed be monstrous, but that is his fault moreso than the QBs.

Is Davis really even a true TE? He seems to be more of a big WR.

 

[Cowboysfan570]

Nah, I don't mind Romo not being included. I absolutely think he's having a "Pro Bowl year." The only problem is that so are four, if not more, others in the NFC. It works out that way sometimes. Look at all the years Dallas Clark didn't make the Pro Bowl, or Gonzalez missing out this year, etc.

Had Rodgers' team missed the playoffs, I'd have a major beef. But given their record is essentially identical to ours and his stats are generally better, I have no problem with him making it.

It does nothing to alter my view of Romo. Which is that he is an elite, top-of-the-line quarterback who has put together another Pro Bowl-caliber season.

Drew Brees and Brett Favre (who has played like crap lately) have been on another level this year. The only guys on the same level as Romo this year are Aaron Rodgers (who takes more sacks than the tackle dummy), Kurt Warner (who has two of the best receivers in the NFL starting), and Eli Manning (worse comp%, int ratio, 6 more fumbles).

Tony Romo has a 3-1 TD-INT ratio, is #2 in the league in int% and has nearly 4200 yards. Once again, why isn't he in?

 

[Eskimo]

Roy Williams ... 38 catches, 596 yards, 7 TDs.

Hines Ward ... 87 catches, 1106 yards, 6 TDs.

Sydney Rice ... 77 catches, 1200 yards, 6 TDs.

Look everyone, Roy Williams is better than Sydney Rice and Hines Ward. Look at the touchdowns. Why is everyone on his case?

Don't give the Roy sheeple any ammunition, even if it is obviously sarcasm as they do likely believe he is better than Rice and Ward.

 

[BAT]

Is Davis really even a true TE? He seems to be more of a big WR.

With WR speed to boot (timed at a sub 4.4 in combine).

 

[zeroburrito]

Drew Brees and Brett Favre (who has played like crap lately) have been on another level this year. The only guys on the same level as Romo this year are Aaron Rodgers (who takes more sacks than the tackle dummy), Kurt Warner (who has two of the best receivers in the NFL starting), and Eli Manning (worse comp%, int ratio, 6 more fumbles).

Tony Romo has a 3-1 TD-INT ratio, is #2 in the league in int% and has nearly 4200 yards. Once again, why isn't he in?

brees has more td's and 70.6% completion percentage(record). favre has more td's and better int%. rodgers has more td's and better int% along 314 rushing yards and 4 td's. there you have it.

 

[Fmart322]

Yes, there seems to be this huge illusion that Celek is even on the same wavelength as Witten, I don't understand. He is eons better than Celek.

I won't say Brent Celek is better then Jason Witten but he did have a very good year for the Eagles. The guy catches everything throw at him and he makes good moves after he catches the ball. The guy isn't a bum and he deserves some Pro Bowl talk. To say Witten is eons better then Celek is way off, imo. Witten kinda had a down year and seemed a bit slower most of the season because of nagging injuries, yet he is still so good at TE.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

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Matt Mosley

Perfect sense: I'm glad that the voters rewarded DeSean Jackson for a huge season. He's the first player in Pro Bowl history to be elected as a kick returner and wide receiver in the same season. Pretty remarkable stuff. Obviously, Cowboys outside linebacker DeMarcus Ware needed to be the starter. His numbers might be a little down, but he's still the most dynamic pass-rusher in the league and coaches and players realize that. It's also hard to argue with Eagles cornerback Asante Samuel as a starter. He's once again putting up huge numbers in terms of interceptions and quarterbacks always have to account for him. It's great that Eagles defensive end Trent Cole and Commanders linebacker Brian Orakpo made the team. Cole's one of the most underappreciated players in the league. And I'm really glad the players and coaches recognized Orakpo's excellent rookie season. Both of those players are reserves. I also don't have any problem with Eagles fullback Leonard Weaver being named a starter. I'm sure some Vikings fans are upset with that pick, but Weaver's put up excellent numbers both catching and running the ball. I think David Akers totally deserves to go for the Eagles. He had an excellent season and he continues to be a clutch kicker.

Made it on rep: Cowboys center Andre Gurode should not be starting in the Pro Bowl, and I think he'd even tell you that. This has not been one of his better seasons, so this was totally based on reputation. I think players and coaches get the offensive linemen wrong more than any other unit on the field. I also think Cowboys right guard Leonard Davis made it as a reserve based on reputation, and the same thing goes for Eagles left tackle Jason Peters. I think Giants center Shaun O'Hara's a good player, but there's no way he deserves a spot on the Pro Bowl roster over Chris Snee. I'm hoping I missed something because Snee deserves the spot on the team over O'Hara.

Got robbed: Shame on the fans for not putting Cowboys nose tackle Jay Ratliff higher on their list. The last time I checked, he wasn't even in the top five in the fan voting. The coaches and the players made sure he at least made it as a reserve. I understand putting Kevin Williams as a starter, but give me a break on Darnell Dockett. I think that's ridiculous. For the Eagles, I think cornerback Sheldon Brown and tight end Brent Celek should have been on the team. They're both alternates, but that doesn't cut it. Brown has played through injuries and been excellent this season. Celek simply had to overcome too many big names. Vernon Davis had an excellent season for the 49ers and Witten finished strong for the Cowboys. I could make an argument that Celek should've made it in front of Witten. Just look at the huge discrepancy in touchdowns. And I would've put Donovan McNabb or Tony Romo in front of Aaron Rodgers at quarterback. Rodgers put up a lot of empty numbers in the first half of the season and he takes entirely too many sacks. That's a bad choice by the coaches and players. Romo and McNabb were at their best in December. I also hoped that coaches and player would right a longtime wrong and put London Fletcher in the Pro Bowl. It didn't happen. I guess the guy will never get voted in. That's too bad. He had an excellent season. Same goes for Andre Carter. He had 134 tackles, which was second in the league. One more guy that was robbed: Giants wide receiver Steve Smith. He should have at least been a reserve.

 

[Alexander]

I also don't have any problem with Eagles fullback Leonard Weaver being named a starter. I'm sure some Vikings fans are upset with that pick, but Weaver's put up excellent numbers both catching and running the ball.

Viking fans need to get over it then. Weaver has been much better and it really is not close. I am glad to see that their vote padding did not work in getting an inferior player into the position.

Cowboys center Andre Gurode should not be starting in the Pro Bowl, and I think he'd even tell you that. This has not been one of his better seasons, so this was totally based on reputation. I think players and coaches get the offensive linemen wrong more than any other unit on the field. I also think Cowboys right guard Leonard Davis made it as a reserve based on reputation, and the same thing goes for Eagles left tackle Jason Peters. I think Giants center Shaun O'Hara's a good player, but there's no way he deserves a spot on the Pro Bowl roster over Chris Snee. I'm hoping I missed something because Snee deserves the spot on the team over O'Hara.

O'Hara is among the top two or three centers in the conference. It was simply a lack of better choices, but it was not a glaring error as he has done his usual solid job. Now the Gurode, Peters and Davis choices, yes, they were lazy choices based on reputation.

Got robbed: Shame on the fans for not putting Cowboys nose tackle Jay Ratliff higher on their list.

The average fan is not going to acknowledge how truly good Ratliff is. Even our own fans think he gets dominated if he does not have two sacks a game and want him bounced to defensive end so we can get a "big nose tackle". I would not expect fans of another team to be any more insightful.

The last time I checked, he wasn't even in the top five in the fan voting. The coaches and the players made sure he at least made it as a reserve. I understand putting Kevin Williams as a starter, but give me a break on Darnell Dockett. I think that's ridiculous.

He's being a little hard on Dockett. He's a playmaker and can take over games and has at times this year. It is not like he's as bad as the Peters, Gurode or Davis selections.

And I would've put Donovan McNabb or Tony Romo in front of Aaron Rodgers at quarterback.

Just Romo for the sake of debate as he has been playing very effective football. Definitely not McNabb.

Rodgers put up a lot of empty numbers in the first half of the season and he takes entirely too many sacks.

He also has been prolific behind a line that many other quarterbacks would struggle with. I would not hold his mechanical challenges against him. If that's the case, then please remark about McNabb's alarming and repetitive tendency to throw multiple passes at the feet of his receivers in bunches, thanks.