ESPN Mosley: NFL Teams Pay Close Attention to Mock Drafts

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In NFL, mock drafts not mocked by all


By Matt Mosley
ESPN.com

One of the first signs that the NFL had completely brainwashed America and portions of Southern California was the introduction of the mock draft. At first, only a chosen few were allowed to produce these lists, which helped feed enthusiasm for what used to be a relatively low-key event in Philadelphia.

After ESPN hired all these men and required them to remain on the air for months at a time, people such as the pasty man in the next cubicle felt empowered to hold their own mock drafts.

We're able to spend countless hours doing this type of thing because -- let's face it -- some of us weren't meant to successfully interact with other humans.

As of this morning, I was the only NFL writer -- and I use that term loosely -- without a mock draft, but that will change before nightfall.

Anyway, after reviewing 10 mock drafts this morning, including one that lasted seven rounds, I started to wonder if teams ever take a peek at these things. Does Cowboys owner-G.M. Jerry Jones ever throw up his hands and say, "Who does Harold in Bedford, Texas have here?" (Obviously, Cowboys fans know the answer to this question.)

Turns out that a few organizations actually admit to reading mock drafts, although maybe not yours.

Former Bills general manager Tom Donahoe came clean with his enjoyment of mock drafts Wednesday afternoon and said they could actually be helpful.

"Whether teams admit it or not, they're looking at them," he said. "If you keep seeing a guy in the first round who you don't have there, it's probably a good idea to take another look at him."

For the record, Donahoe said Bob McGinn (Milwaukee Journal Sentinel), Rick Gosselin (Dallas Morning News) and Mel Kiper (ESPN) provide the best mock drafts.

"Mel does so many, he's gotta be right on something," Donahoe joked.

Most teams are "reading" certain positions this week. It's a process in which position coaches and coordinators add their analysis to the exhaustive evaluations that scouts have spent up to two or three years producing.

A few organizations won't allow coaches to see their draft board until next Saturday because there's a fear of them talking to friends on other staffs. Some scouts believe those conversations are the reason teams end up reaching for certain players, and it seems to happen most frequently in the late second or third rounds.

Veteran Chargers scout Tom McConnaughey goes out of his way not to look at mock drafts.

"You've spent all this time coming up with a full body of work on a player," he said. "You don't want to get too far away from that. For us, looking at a mock draft is like watching grass grow, but I can see how it's become so popular for other people."

The Chargers and several other teams will do their own mock drafts, although they rarely publish them on the Internet. The Cowboys don't conduct a traditional mock draft, but Dallas scouting chief Jeff Ireland and his staff hole up a couple of days before the draft and go through numerous scenarios.

Longtime Titans scout C.O. Brocato said he also avoids mock drafts, and blames them for a lot of the disappointment that players experience on draft day.

"The players monitor those things pretty closely," Brocato said. "They always believe the ones that have them going the highest and then the poor guy's waiting for a phone call all day."

Some franchises don't have much use for mocks.

"I'll grab one or two just to see," said Oakland college scout Calvin Branch. "But unfortunately, it's been pretty easy for us because we're picking so high."

And since I have yet to release my 2007 mock, feel free to provide suggestions. Let me warn you that Anthony Arline is the fastest riser on my board for reasons I'll explain at a later date.

Matt Mosley covers the NFL for ESPN.com. He may be reached at matt.mosley@sbcglobal.net.
 

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"I'll grab one or two just to see," said Oakland college scout Calvin Branch. "But unfortunately, it's been pretty easy for us because we're picking so high."

Truth! It is easier if you are first, those other teams have a tendency not to get in your way then.:lmao2:
Interesting information none the less.
 

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Mosley said on Galloway's show yesterday that he knew we really liked Merriweather and Spencer, especially if we could trade down a little with our first.

Maybe that's baloney, but that's what he said. :)

Oh, and did anyone hear Gosselin on GAC today? Man, I've never heard a writer so cocky in my life, going on about how great he was at this and how he's got the whole thing pegged. Kinda scary how proud he was of himself.
 

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Chocolate Lab;1460529 said:
Mosley said on Galloway's show yesterday that he knew we really liked Merriweather and Spencer, especially if we could trade down a little with our first.

Maybe that's baloney, but that's what he said. :)

Oh, and did anyone hear Gosselin on GAC today? Man, I've never heard a writer so cocky in my life, going on about how great he was at this and how he's got the whole thing pegged. Kinda scary how proud he was of himself.
Gosselin is quite the strange goose. And you made my evening with the Spencer tidbit.
 

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Chocolate Lab;1460529 said:
Mosley said on Galloway's show yesterday that he knew we really liked Merriweather and Spencer, especially if we could trade down a little with our first.

Maybe that's baloney, but that's what he said. :)

Oh, and did anyone hear Gosselin on GAC today? Man, I've never heard a writer so cocky in my life, going on about how great he was at this and how he's got the whole thing pegged. Kinda scary how proud he was of himself.


Goose has made this draft thing his golden egg(horrible pun, i know:D ) but he is real good at putting the info he gets from teams together. That said, he is on the megalomaniacal side, considering he's getting this info second hand and not really doing anything but "insider trading".


As far as Meriweather and Spencer, what's not to like with their on field play and how they would fit into Wage's D? Meriweather is perfect for this scheme outside his character concerns. Spencer has the potential to be a better version of Shaun Phillips. Wouldn't it be great if we could trade down, move around and get both in the early 30's early 40s?
 

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If Dwayne Jarrett or Dwayne Bowe or Tedd Ginn not there I say take Spencer otherwise I say wait until second round to get somebody.
 

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RealCowboyfan;1460612 said:
If Dwayne Jarrett or Dwayne Bowe or Tedd Ginn not there I say take Spencer otherwise I say wait until second round to get somebody.
No Meachem?

IMO, I'd take him if I had the choice out of the four.
 

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I bet Mr. Jones looks at a Kiper mock just for curosity if nothing else.
 

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And since I have yet to release my 2007 mock, feel free to provide suggestions. Let me warn you that Anthony Arline is the fastest riser on my board for reasons I'll explain at a later date.

Matt Mosley showing his Baylor pride. Arline is a stud, so is C.J. Wilson.
 

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Former Bills general manager Tom Donahoe came clean with his enjoyment of mock drafts Wednesday afternoon and said they could actually be helpful.

"Whether teams admit it or not, they're looking at them," he said. "If you keep seeing a guy in the first round who you don't have there, it's probably a good idea to take another look at him."


Any team that does this might as well just fire their scouting staff right then and there.
 

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aikemirv;1460692 said:
Former Bills general manager Tom Donahoe came clean with his enjoyment of mock drafts Wednesday afternoon and said they could actually be helpful.

"Whether teams admit it or not, they're looking at them," he said. "If you keep seeing a guy in the first round who you don't have there, it's probably a good idea to take another look at him."


Any team that does this might as well just fire their scouting staff right then and there.

What would be even worse is the mocks we see where people are trying to pull all kind of Madden trades up or down the board.

I don't want ANYONE giving Jerry any kind of ideas of getting too cute during the draft.:laugh2:
 

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This is interesting, because in february norm had Jeff Ireland on and asked him if he ever looks at mock drafts for info, like ourlads or goose gosselin.

There was an akward pause and then ireland said, emphatically no. Pretty funny!

He said we have scouts traveling the country all year long that we trust, we dont need any other info than what we have.
 

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theebs;1461432 said:
This is interesting, because in february norm had Jeff Ireland on and asked him if he ever looks at mock drafts for info, like ourlads or goose gosselin.

There was an akward pause and then ireland said, emphatically no. Pretty funny!

He said we have scouts traveling the country all year long that we trust, we dont need any other info than what we have.
I think that's probably a pretty erroneous way to look at it. Some of these guys are very accurate, partly because they get a lot of their information from teams. If Ireland & Co. have a guy rated as a 3rd rounder, but most other teams have him as a 1st rounder, it'd probably be a good idea to get a feel of where other teams are ranking the player. The best source for that sort of info is outside mocks. It doesn't mean they should change their grade on the player, but they should use whatever information is available to predict how other teams will act in the draft.
 

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theogt;1460498 said:
In NFL, mock drafts not mocked by all

For the record, Donahoe said Bob McGinn (Milwaukee Journal Sentinel), Rick Gosselin (Dallas Morning News) and Mel Kiper (ESPN) provide the best mock drafts.

Never heard of Bob McGinn. Has anyone seen his mock??
 
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