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I'm as big a fan as low risk / high reward as anyone. But make no mistake, this isn't about an act of nobility. It's about guys who can play football well being available because they're screw-ups.

If it works? Great. You got a quality pass rusher at a discount.

If it doesn't? 31 other teams get to say "Told ya so!"

Insult to injury if the reports of letting Hardy walk are true. You're either forcing yourself to overpay someone else in free agency, or worse, wasting a #4 overall pick to fill the void created.

Nothing to argue about there, Stash...but team directions are all important now. Curb side trash talk be damned...time to forget name calling, and build the defensive front now.
 

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Nothing to argue about there, Stash...but team directions are all important now. Curb side trash talk be damned...time to forget name calling, and build the defensive front now.

Agreed. The lion's share of draft resources need to be used on the defensive side of the ball.
 

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Probably one of Jerry's biggest weaknesses is that he's always looking for the great steal, great deal, and everything else that's "too good to pass".

There's already enough uncertainty regarding whether or not your investment will pan out when it comes to acquiring talent. Probably better off just avoiding most of these great bargains.
 

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Gregory failing four drug tests should be a clear and distinct sign, The idea he can turn it around is not impossible.

But four drug tests indicate he won't. The pick was a risk, but one worth taking if he panned out.

I am skeptical he will get his head right. Young and immature isn't a cocktail that mixes well.

Randall is a prime example.

But there is something consistent in this world. Jerry making decisions like this, yet ignoring when he has true exceptional athletes and lets them walk.

It's a beautiful day at the circus.
 

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Hmmm. This all depends on Gregory turning things around. So it's a big fat TBD for me.

except he can't type up clickbait and use the tired schtick JONES IS CRAZY story.

he's about one of the worst writers out there.
 

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Gregory failing four drug tests should be a clear and distinct sign, The idea he can turn it around is not impossible.

But four drug tests indicate he won't. The pick was a risk, but one worth taking if he panned out.

I am skeptical he will get his head right. Young and immature isn't a cocktail that mixes well.

Randall is a prime example.

But there is something consistent in this world. Jerry making decisions like this, yet ignoring when he has true exceptional athletes and lets them walk.

It's a beautiful day at the circus.

except jones isn't the only ones making those picks. it's funny how he had to be HELD DOWN to stop taking manziel indicating that someone else was driving those picks, but now it's RISKY JONES again calling all the shots that don't pan out.

great. what about collins? what about frederick? what about martin? i suppose someone else made those picks and jones only makes the risky ones cause hey, that's what jones does.

anyway - i tiraded on your thread and no - not at you. i honestly agree with you and find myself in strange territory yet again in that fact. failing 4 tests is a sure sign he's not looking to give it up. i can't think of anyone i've known who smoked who wouldn't stop in a heartbeat for the chances he has. he's just stupid and thinks rules are not applicable to him. this is how he's always rolled and what he will continue to do. not my job to say if it's right or wrong to smoke pot, up to the person. but to risk millions doing it, well it is my job to stay they're butt-nugget stupid.

i think where we may disagree here is if jerry is the only one to make the gregory call. i think people gravitate to that thought process cause it's jones and easy to do. but do we know if jones had to talk people into it, or was it a group decision? i don't wanna counter rage if this *is* all risky jones. :)
 

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Wow..I didn't realize how close he is to a 1 year suspension.

I hear ya, all he has to do is fail one more test before the season starts within 8 months. With 4 failures already in 1 year the odds are he will be gone for the season come September. Maybe a year will be the kick in the head he needs and allow us to focus on the fact that we shouldn't count on him at all this year.
 

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Games have been won and lost by a single play, typically at least two or three times a year by every single team.

For the Cowboys last season, a single play lost the Saints, Eagles, Buccaneers, and Jets games.

I wonder what single play by Gregory could have prevented a loss in one of the first four games next season......had he been able to play.

Or, you could look at it this way:

If a player is seen as having only three fourths of the amount of talent compared to another player then their potential to contribute to the team over a full 16 game season is equal if the better player must serve a 4 game suspension.

Character does play a huge part in a team's success. A player that does not follow the rules and risks not being able to contribute to his team lacks the necessary character to be trusted as part of that team's future.

Great teams are not built on risks, they are built on a specific plan and a consistent effort to follow that plan.

Jason Garrett had a plan that he outlined.

Jerry Jones has a gambling problem.
 

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It's that distinct advantage we have with our unique structure. Our GM can make mistake after mistake with the freedom to make more. It's awesome.

If you ever stumbled and fell to the floor, wisdom would roll out of you.
 

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It is for me too.

Expect him to miss a year unless they keep him in a box in jerry's garage.

One more failed drug test..........?

Yeah. He gone.

Yeah, after failing 3 or 4, the odds of him not failing another look slim at this point. He gets suspended a year, his development will be toast. I hate to say it, but at this point better just chalk Gregory up as a loss. By all means I hope it's not the case, but realistically.
 

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INDIANAPOLIS -- Jerry Jones is disappointed that the Cowboys will be without defensive end Randy Gregory for the first four games of the upcoming season. The NFL announced last week that last year's second-round pick had been suspended for violating the league's substance abuse policy.

But Jones said Saturday that he's "not in any way giving up that [Gregory] can work through this."

"Anybody who has had any type of substance treatment knows that Rome was not built in a day," Jones said. "That's not being too tolerant. That's being patient. He just happens to have a job that has zero tolerance at some point for any ingestion of substance.

"He has got to work with a complete understanding that at some point there are consequences. Even if you're making improvement there can be consequences. That is what he is suffering from and consequently our team is suffering.

"As much as anything, he's got to see that he hurts a lot of people when he doesn't really adhere to the program."

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Gregory is one more strike away from serving a one year suspension.
 

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"By now you guys should know better than to think I will learn from my stupidity"
 

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Stash, I kind of appreciate the aspect in life where an owner with deep pockets, actually supports social appearances and puts his wallet where his mouth endorses...the element in human nature that actually overcomes great challenges. But then wins also. In sports, even where there are no red herrings, players fail on conduct. Indicators or not, that is just part of the terrain and all teams have to deal with it...not just Jerry and the supposed '20 year dessert.'

I can see why you have to resort to this sort of logic to justify your love for jerry

Football ownership, coaching, playing is (and should be) about WINNING and nothing else. If your team wins, the money, the ticket sales, the accolades, the media hype will come automatically. Jerry can't do this because he had no idea how to build a winning team. So he creates hype and brand recognition and media hype in other ways.

No one with even average intelligence can truly believe that jerry is a good owner or GM but I know I set the bar high with that statement
 
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