ESPN: Report: NFL concussion studies used flawed data; Cowboys mentioned

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The NFL omitted concussion cases when it downplayed the effects of head injuries on players based on studies conducted from 1996 through 2001, according to a report by The New York Times.

More than 100 diagnosed concussions were left out of the studies, based on confidential documents obtained by the Times. Star quarterbacks such as Steve Young and Troy Aikman were among the players who suffered concussions that were not counted, and zero concussions involving Dallas Cowboys players were documented by the NFL research in that period.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...udies-based-underreported-head-injury-numbers
 

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The NFL omitted concussion cases when it downplayed the effects of head injuries on players based on studies conducted from 1996 through 2001, according to a report by The New York Times.

More than 100 diagnosed concussions were left out of the studies, based on confidential documents obtained by the Times. Star quarterbacks such as Steve Young and Troy Aikman were among the players who suffered concussions that were not counted, and zero concussions involving Dallas Cowboys players were documented by the NFL research in that period.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...udies-based-underreported-head-injury-numbers

No wonder Dr. Jones says it is absurd.
 

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As headline grabbing as Jerry Jones' stint as Owner/GM/Crash Test Dummy has been, I can't remember being more repulsed and saddened by that position than I am this off season. I don't want to go down the "Jerry Jones is now Al Davis" route, but it's becoming harder and harder no to. It's also painfully difficult to lay into Robert Kraft about the Patriots cheating, when it now comes out that our owner did something like this.
 

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Easy solution to all this...

No more Football- to physical
No more Hockey- to physical- a lot on concussions in that sport to
No more Boxing- nothing but head punches
no more MMA- knees and elbows to the head constantly

QUESTION- what are the results for head damage from other sports? I have to believe Boxing, UFC, and MMA are more dangerous.
 

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QUESTION- what are the results for head damage from other sports? I have to believe Boxing, UFC, and MMA are more dangerous.

Have you heard of this thing called Google?

No? Let me tell you all about it.

Anyway, the fact that the Cowboys didn't even bother their concussion data tells you not only does Jerry not think it's a big deal, he's determined to ignore all evidence to the contrary.
 

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Easy solution to all this...

No more Football- to physical
No more Hockey- to physical- a lot on concussions in that sport to
No more Boxing- nothing but head punches
no more MMA- knees and elbows to the head constantly

QUESTION- what are the results for head damage from other sports? I have to believe Boxing, UFC, and MMA are more dangerous.

I disagree on the MMA side. Yes, people get concussions, but fighters get medically suspended all the time for weeks/months at a time. The real damage is when you get a concussion and receive another concussion without recovering from the first one. Fighters also go months without fighting in general unless your Cowboy Cerrone and fight every chance you get.
 

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The funny thing is that the most powerful sports organizations ESPN, the NFL, the NCAA, to name only a few are talking out of both sides of their mouths on this. With all the billions of $$'s at stake and the greed among it, are they really going to shut down football as we know it? I cannot imagine for the love of $$ and popularity alone.
They will shut all this concussion talk down with a much publicized "treatment" fund for those "exposed" players/families who will supposedly benefit. It will probably end up much like the VA presently supports our troops which is sick in itself.
I hate to admit it but selfishly I would hate to see football turned into a non contact sport. It would kill it for me.
 

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This says the nfl left stuff out...not Dallas explicitly. We would need further documentation showing Jerry suppressed this.
 

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while we are at it:

How about:
* roofers who deal with risk of falls everyday of their job
* nurses who often end up with serious back issues
* farmers who have high fatality rates from machinery
* welders who often must work in dangerous spaces
* Truck drivers who work in one of most dangerous areas....the roads.

These workers do so at a fraction of Salary of NFL player. There is risk/reward for all of us to make decisions on. In perfect world risk is reduced for all workers but lets stop this silly notion that NFL players long term quality of life is now all sudden urgent because Will Smith does a movie on the issue.
 

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This is nothing new with the Cowboys. Didn't they straight up lie about Romo needing back surgery a few years ago. Garrett was tap dancing around questions, it's ridiculous how the top of the organization does stuff like that.

I hope Romo is smart enough to know when his body can't take the abuse anymore because if you leave it up to Jerry and Garrett, Romo really would playing until his contract is up.
 

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The NFL omitted concussion cases when it downplayed the effects of head injuries on players based on studies conducted from 1996 through 2001, according to a report by The New York Times.

More than 100 diagnosed concussions were left out of the studies, based on confidential documents obtained by the Times. Star quarterbacks such as Steve Young and Troy Aikman were among the players who suffered concussions that were not counted, and zero concussions involving Dallas Cowboys players were documented by the NFL research in that period.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...udies-based-underreported-head-injury-numbers

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Easy solution to all this...

No more Football- to physical
No more Hockey- to physical- a lot on concussions in that sport to
No more Boxing- nothing but head punches
no more MMA- knees and elbows to the head constantly

QUESTION- what are the results for head damage from other sports? I have to believe Boxing, UFC, and MMA are more dangerous.

Actually, Soccer has shown to be the most dangerous.
 

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The funny thing is that the most powerful sports organizations ESPN, the NFL, the NCAA, to name only a few are talking out of both sides of their mouths on this. With all the billions of $$'s at stake and the greed among it, are they really going to shut down football as we know it? I cannot imagine for the love of $$ and popularity alone.
They will shut all this concussion talk down with a much publicized "treatment" fund for those "exposed" players/families who will supposedly benefit. It will probably end up much like the VA presently supports our troops which is sick in itself.
I hate to admit it but selfishly I would hate to see football turned into a non contact sport. It would kill it for me.

Share your sentiment. The catch 22 in my "morality" tends to give a blind spot to acknowledging the game we love will only be around for a limited time period. You can only dance around problem for so long, but I grew up playing it and obviously still love the sport. It's a hard reality of the willful ignorance to deal with tbh. It may be overplayed now, but it's the damning truth of hiding the long term effects aspect that will eventually doom the sport we love.:oops:

I see the soccer fields popping up everywhere enough already, I don't need this...:D
 
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Actually, Soccer has shown to be the most dangerous.

Where are you getting your data from? Just curious to see if there's something else out there I'm unaware of. For my job, I have to stay up to date on things like that, and everything I read still says that - at least at the HS and collegiate level - football still has the highest rate of concussions (reported) per 100,000 exposures. Soccer has been climbing consistently, though. Especially girls. Girls basketball, too.
 

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Where are you getting your data from? Just curious to see if there's something else out there I'm unaware of. For my job, I have to stay up to date on things like that, and everything I read still says that - at least at the HS and collegiate level - football still has the highest rate of concussions (reported) per 100,000 exposures. Soccer has been climbing consistently, though. Especially girls. Girls basketball, too.

I hope he was joking.
 

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I dont think anybody has to be afraid that football will change fundamentaly or will be shut down.

There are too many interested parties involved: employers (NFL, teams) and employees (players, coaches etc..). Everybody benefits from the sport. So in no ones interest would be a shut down of the sport itself.

Right now it is just a fight about the consequences if the NFL knew that head traumata like concussions lead to cte. If they would admit then they ran into danger to lose alot of lawsuits (and so money).

In the future this wil only be about finding a balance between the rights of players and the NFL.

In the end its always the same: If crybabies like Dez Bryant think they are compensated enough (in his words "respected") they offer up mostly everything for the money.
 
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