ESPN: Sparano knew how to keep Romo grounded

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McCordsville Cowboy;2715490 said:
I like Romo... he is better than anything we have had around here in awhile. I hope he gets his turnover proness under control so we all can rejoice in February.

But I do think that Brady has more potential than Romo. You put Brady with 3 years of experience with our team last year and we make the playoffs. Fact.
yeah but last year 1 thing people forget is our left side of the o-line was garbage. Flo was hurt and he's nearing the end of his career. Proctor nuff said. when our o-line can protect Romo he can be very good and the opposite when the o-line doesn't protect him. in 2007 Brady finally went 1 game(superbowl) with poor protection and that offense(one of if not the best offense ever) put up 13 freaking points.

now I agree Romo has to do his part with protecting the ball a lot better. no arguement from me there. at the same time Garrett has to do his job and use our personel to it's fullest potential instead of getting pass happy and trying to hard(romo included) to get a certain wr the ball. If Romo still hasn't gotten it right and fails to win a playoff game within the next 2 seasons i'll probably be calling for his head too. but he's gonna be here for a while so i'm gonna ride with him and hope he gets something done within the next 2 years.
 
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Rampage;2715511 said:
yeah but last year 1 thing people forget is our left side of the o-line was garbage. Flo was hurt and he's nearing the end of his career. Proctor nuff said. when our o-line can protect Romo he can be very good and the opposite when the o-line doesn't protect him. in 2007 Brady finally went 1 game(superbowl) with poor protection and that offense(one of if not the best offense ever) put up 13 freaking points.

now I agree Romo has to do his part with protecting the ball a lot better. no arguement from me there. at the same time Garrett has to do his job and use our personel to it's fullest potential instead of getting pass happy and trying to hard(romo included) to get a certain wr the ball. If Romo still hasn't gotten it right and fails to win a playoff game within the next 2 seasons i'll probably be calling for his head too. but he's gonna be here for a while so i'm gonna ride with him and hope he gets something done within the next 2 years.

Ill still wear my Romo jersey to work on Casual Fridays and cheer for him during games, but you are right...

if bums like Proctor and his constant neck twitch are allowed to play in this league, Romo will be running for his life and making bad decisions or fumbling the ball because he is trying to extend the broken play.
 

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SMCowboy;2715350 said:
You are right, the pictures DO prove a point. They prove that you do have an agenda.

Are you tring to tell me that never during the NFL season was Sprano left scratching his heard wondering what was going on? Are you saying that no where during the season did either Garrett or Wade Phillips hollar and screem?

Yeah, thats exactly what I'm saying as a matter of fact.

But I get it, it's not Wade's style - neither is winning playoff games. Sparano will win won before Wade, and he's got a 25 year head start.

So if me disliking Wade Philips is an agenda, then yeah - I totally have an agenda.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2715426 said:
Never.

http://i7.***BLOCKED***/albums/y253/chrisjnelson/TonySparano.jpg

From 1-15 to 11-5.

From 13-3 to 9-7.

He was wondering if he should pull his starters since they were going to the playoffs.
 

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Idgit;2714460 said:
There's plenty of fault to go around. I thought adjustments by the OC specifically cost us the first WAS game, and he was really late getting out of max protect against BAL (though Garrett wasn't the reason we lost that game). Beyond that, our problems last year were mostly with execution. Either b/c backups were unprepared, starters weren't playing as well as they had previously, or because we were hampered by some specific injuries. Some of that's on Garrett, too, but it's way too simplistic to say last year was his fault.

I think he's a good coordinator who's still learning, and I think he'll be a better HC one day. I hope it's in Dallas.


Your whole argument is predicated on the notion that the execution of the play would have worked. That is not substantiated, because whenever they executed, people like Ed Reed and Ray Lewis said they knew what was coming and it was testified to by the fact the offense kept faltering and performed the same over and over again. The predictability was there, which lends credence to the fact it was anything but 'execution'.
 

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SMCowboy;2715015 said:
khiladi, with the talent we had/have at WR and TE, when a team stacks the box like Washington did they are inviting you to throw the football, to continue to run the ball into what is alot of times even a 9 man front, is crazy.

The biggest problem comes down to execution. You complete the passes against Washington, then you force them to play you head up. Was the play calling and coaching great last year, absolutely NOT. Even with 8 and 9 men in the box, 8 times is still to few times to run the ball. But, the lack of execution, was the biggest issue we had on offense last year. After that the large amount of injuries and our inability (because of poor depth) to put in capable guys to replace the injured starters, and finally the poor coaching/playcalling.

Washington didn't stack the box, and teams never stacked the box against us, because they weren't threatened by the run at all. garrett never ran consistently to make teams even cheat up to the line of scrimmage. What games were you watching? Even the Commanders were playing safety help over the top against TO.
 

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khiladi;2715964 said:
Washington didn't stack the box, and teams never stacked the box against us, because they weren't threatened by the run at all. garrett never ran consistently to make teams even cheat up to the line of scrimmage. What games were you watching? Even the Commanders were playing safety help over the top against TO.
the skins did play 8 in the box with Landry in centerfield. than when the play started Landry would shadow Owens. I was at the 1st washington game last season.
 

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Apollo Creed;2715172 said:
No, Sparano was here for perhaps our best offensive season in franchise history. He also was a well-respected guy, and our offensive line hasn't performed the same since he left.

I felt he was a key component to our success - everyone we have on our staff right now, I don't have that level of faith in them.

The pictures do prove a point, if you're a multi-million dollar egotistical football player, who are you going to respect and listen to more?

People don't understand Sparano wasn't that geart either. When Drew Bledsoe was the QB, this OL was being criticized every day for it's inability to sustain any pass protection. They were the weak link of the offense. When Tony Romo came in, the OL played better. In the play-offs, with Sparano at the helm, the OL collapsed in the second half.

Even our run schemes weren't great with Sparano. During the Giants game, Barber was getting his running yards taking busted plays to the outside. Our interior running game was not good.

The fact is, our OL looks good because of Romo. The problem is, Romo, just like a Randall Cunningham, can't avoid pressure all day. It eventually catches up to the team. As soon as teams took away TO, that didn't give Romo his outlet. They just needed to man-up on the receivers and get physical with them, because of the long routes. Teams then could simply bring the rush and get to Romo, taking away his outlets.

We aren't going to improve if Garrett doesn't give us a running game and short passing game.
 

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khiladi;2715958 said:
Your whole argument is predicated on the notion that the execution of the play would have worked. That is not substantiated, because whenever they executed, people like Ed Reed and Ray Lewis said they knew what was coming and it was testified to by the fact the offense kept faltering and performed the same over and over again. The predictability was there, which lends credence to the fact it was anything but 'execution'.

Yeah. I should have clarified that by 'execution' I meant 'execution that would have worked'.

I'm talking about the OL blowing it on simple twists and stunts in the Baltimore game. I'm talking about Romo not being able to get a last-minute pass off to an open Roy Williams in the end zone, or missing on intermediate throws that he used to make in his sleep because he'd been injured badly in the second Giants game. Missed tackles on consecutive running plays on defense in Baltimore. Missed routes and off-target throws leading to a pick-six in PIT. TO adlibbing in the middle of a route leading to a TO in PIT. Blown pickup in AZ that put Romo out for three games. And another blown block on the next play that lost McBriar for the year.

There were a dozen plays you could point to last year that directly contributed to us losing games. These were plays that were there to be made had we executed, and it wouldn't have made a lick of difference what Ed Reed or Ray I-didn't-kill-no-mother****ing-lion Lewis had to say about it after the fact.
 

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Not going to read the article or 5 pages of posts... Parrcels I mean Spagnola's whippin boy had as much success with Romo as he had with Pennington. Not much.
 

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Idgit;2716023 said:
There were a dozen plays you could point to last year that directly contributed to us losing games. These were plays that were there to be made had we executed, and it wouldn't have made a lick of difference what Ed Reed or Ray I-didn't-kill-no-mother****ing-lion Lewis had to say about it after the fact.
:laugh2:

That youtube is such a classic.
 

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ctalker;2716313 said:
Not going to read the article or 5 pages of posts... Parrcels I mean Spagnola's whippin boy had as much success with Romo as he had with Pennington. Not much.

Spags is a cool dude. He had nothing but respect for Romo in his quotes.
 

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Idgit;2716023 said:
Yeah. I should have clarified that by 'execution' I meant 'execution that would have worked'.

I'm talking about the OL blowing it on simple twists and stunts in the Baltimore game. I'm talking about Romo not being able to get a last-minute pass off to an open Roy Williams in the end zone, or missing on intermediate throws that he used to make in his sleep because he'd been injured badly in the second Giants game. Missed tackles on consecutive running plays on defense in Baltimore. Missed routes and off-target throws leading to a pick-six in PIT. TO adlibbing in the middle of a route leading to a TO in PIT. Blown pickup in AZ that put Romo out for three games. And another blown block on the next play that lost McBriar for the year.



There were a dozen plays you could point to last year that directly contributed to us losing games. These were plays that were there to be made had we executed, and it wouldn't have made a lick of difference what Ed Reed or Ray I-didn't-kill-no-mother****ing-lion Lewis had to say about it after the fact.
When they happen over and over again, it is a matter of coaching. Part of a defense is disrupting an offense so they can't execute. As a coach, you got to adjust to it. BTW, TO didn't audible out of route. He ran the same route against the 49ers. The Steelers knew the exact play, and they executed much better than the 49ers in that the safety dropped back much farther than the 49ers game, closing off the inside route and Polamalu broke on the ball before TO even turned. TO even pointed out Polamalu to TR. It is called predictability, which is a mark on Garrett.
 
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