ESPN Todd McShay on DT Joshua Price-Brent

[WoodysGirl]

Jul 15
3:02
PM ET

By Todd McShay, Scouts Inc.

On the positive side, Price-Brent has size that cannot be coached. He also has a solid combination of experience (20 starts at the FBS level) and recent production (seven tackles for loss, including three sacks, in 2009).



On tape he shows the lower-body strength and toughness to occupy blocks. However, while he displays decent quickness for his size, his lack of pass-rushing potential in the NFL is obvious.



As is typically the case with supplemental draft picks, Price-Brent comes with some off-the-field baggage (30 days in jail for a 2009 DUI). He is also not known for being a self-motivator, which is a major concern at the next level.


If Price-Brent is to defy the odds as a seventh-round supplemental draft pick, he must keep his weight in check and hit the weight room. As a 6-foot-2, 321-pound space-eater, he needs to improve his upper-body strength, which was exposed when he posted just 22 reps on the standard 225-pound bench press.



The Cowboys have solid depth along their three-man defensive front. In addition to their three starters (DEs Marcus Spears and Igor Olshansky and NT Jay Ratliff), they have some quality competition for just a few roster spots between DT Junior Siavii and DEs Jason Hatcher, Stephen Bowen and 2010 seventh-round draft pick Sean Lissemore.



The team is reportedly not very high on Siavii, but Price-Brent would have to exceed expectations in order to supplant him as Ratliff's primary backup.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/blog?name=nfl_draft&id=5383321

 

[jterrell]

He is probably a practice squad NT.

Gathered for potential.

Not bad use of a 7th rounder.

 

[theebs]

He is probably a practice squad NT.

Gathered for potential.

Not bad use of a 7th rounder.

Bryan Broaddus shed some info on him last night, saying the team likes him, tom ciskowski really liked him and he is a good kid who made a mistake. he said they put a 7th rounder in on him expecting him to not be there....

He said they view him as a nose tackle and expect him to play behind ratliff.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

If Ciskowski likes him, especially regarding his character, that's enough for me.

 

[CATCH17]

If Ciskowski likes him, especially regarding his character, that's enough for me.

Same here.

 

[jazzcat22]

Did they do this just to make a move....their big splash....or do they really feel this can help. I hope so, but just asking a ?

 

[Staggerlee]

All of these mixed reports regarding siavii are annoying, Wade says he played well and should have had more playing time down the stretch, then we have these reports saying the team isnt high on him. I know wade likes to hype players a little when asked, what coach doesnt, but i doubt he goes so far as to say someone should have received more snaps down the stretch if he doest mean it.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

All of these mixed reports regarding siavii are annoying, Wade says he played well and should have had more playing time down the stretch, then we have these reports saying the team isnt high on him. I know wade likes to hype players a little when asked, what coach doesnt, but i doubt he goes so far as to say someone should have received more snaps down the stretch if he doest mean it.

I would almost guarantee you that zero research went into that statement. McShay probably just threw that out there because Siavii is an unknown (to him) backup.

It's the BSPN way.

 

[jterrell]

I would almost guarantee you that zero research went into that statement. McShay probably just threw that out there because Siavii is an unknown (to him) backup.

It's the BSPN way.

While I doubt McShay knows anything I think it is fair to infer the team wants an upgrade behind Ratliff.

Just looking at the fact they have cut Junior in the past and then didn't play him any even with a banged up Ratliff....

All that said, I think it an extreme long shot that upgrade is Price in 2010. I expect him to go to the PS as I stated earlier in thread. The few scouting articles on him mention he needs a little more physical development and to be motivated to push himself to maximize his potential ... of which there is plenty.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Plus, Wade's glowing words were along the lines of "well, when you go back and look at the tape he played better than you originally thought". A backhanded compliment at best, and an outright diss by Wade's standards.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Maybe they want a younger guy and longer-term solution, or maybe Siavii has an injury issue that worries them (IIRC he had a bad knee when they first were going to sign him), both of which would be sensible thoughts. But I don't think it's true that they aren't happy with Siavii.

But when you say "reportedly", that kind of saves you... That means you could've seen speculation by Calvin Watkins or Mike Florio or anyone, whether it was based in fact or not.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Did they do this just to make a move....their big splash....or do they really feel this can help. I hope so, but just asking a ?

They did this just to make a "big splash."

Nothing generates headlines like drafting little known defensive tackles in the 7th round of the supplemental draft.

This story has been burning up talk radio.

 

[Chief]

If you're a seventh-round pick, you better not have motivational issues.

Maybe he's an end-of-the-draft guy because of those motivation problems, but either way, I don't like picking guys with those issues. Sounds like a poor man's Willie Blade.

 

[big dog cowboy]

The team is reportedly not very high on Siavii,

I've wondered about that many times.

If Ciskowski likes him, especially regarding his character, that's enough for me.

Absolutely agree.

 

[adbutcher]

If you're a seventh-round pick, you better not have motivational issues.

Maybe he's an end-of-the-draft guy because of those motivation problems, but either way, I don't like picking guys with those issues. Sounds like a poor man's Willie Blade.

As long as he doesn't mess himself he will be alright.

 

[Chief]

As long as he doesn't mess himself he will be alright.

:laugh2:

Forty years from now, an elderly Willie Blade will show his I.D. somewhere and the clerk will say, "hey, weren't you the guy who crapped his pants?" and Willie will have to explain again that he made it in time.

 

[rathalarge]

His build is like Casey Hampton's, so if they could catch lightening in a bottle with him, it'll be great!

 

[TNCowboy]

The team is reportedly not very high on Siavii, but Price-Brent would have to exceed expectations in order to supplant him as Ratliff's primary backup.

McShay just got himself on someone's hate list....

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I hear him being interviewed 2 different times on Sirius and he seems like a kid that is not some dumb jock, he just made a poor decision and didn't take to school all that well. I don't think the team is down on Siavii, who logged in some pretty good snaps last year. But he's a known commodity and we don't want to wind up starting him in case of injury. Price-Bent will likely be looked at as a 'redshirt' this year. I think it's something Jerry likes to think of as he's said about 'redshirting' players before. 7th round picks rarely make the team and I think this was well worth the gamble because he's got quality NFL player, if not quality NFL starter written all over him.






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[The Realist]

Same round we drafted our All Pro NT in.