ESPN: With Tony Romo, Dallas Cowboys have had success against unbeatens

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With Tony Romo, Dallas Cowboys have had success against unbeatens
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Todd Archer, ESPN Staff Writer
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Tony Romo and the Cowboys face a Carolina Panthers team that has won 14 regular-season games in a row. The Palm Beach Post/Zuma Press/Icon Sportswire

“You got to take it one game at a time,” Romo said after the game. “I don’t know what Carolina did today. They won? So they’re undefeated. So we know how good they are. They’re going to provide a great challenge.”

The Panthers are 10-0, tied with the New England Patriots for the best record in the NFL. They have actually won 14 straight regular-season games dating back to last season’s run that put them in the playoffs with a 7-8-1 record.

But undefeated teams this late in a season don’t deter the Cowboys or Romo.

According to the Elias Sports Bureau, Romo is the only starting quarterback all-time to have multiple wins against teams that 9-0 or better.



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I have a good feeling about the game because of Romo but the matchup overall scares me. This is not an optimal matchup for the Cowboys, actually on paper it is a pretty bad matchup, but given the fact that the Panthers usually play everyone close, I am confident Romo can make the plays needed in the fourth.
 

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Tony is a top three quarterback going onto the carpet, in today's NFL.
 

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We all know how difficult it is the longer the streak goes.

Dallas will not have a better opportunity against a basically inexperienced team that hasn't had to play in situations where they are required to win.

No one has really taken them seriously up to now.

But December is where teams are fighting to get in the playoffs and the games get much tougher to win.

We'll see.
 

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That's some interesting trivia....

"According to the Elias Sports Bureau, Romo is the only starting quarterback all-time to have multiple wins against teams that 9-0 or better."

However, I'm right near the front of the line in saying QBs don't get wins, teams get wins and QBs help lead them. It's not tennis or golf. If we say Romo doesn't get loses, then he doesn't get wins either....and this is coming from a big fan of his.
 

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As for Carolina not being used to "having to win"...give me a break.

They were in full elimination mode the entire last month of last year and they won every single game. They then won their first round playoff game as well before falling to Seattle.
The year before they were also a playoff team...one that had a 12-4 record.
These aren't newbies.
 

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We all know how difficult it is the longer the streak goes.

Dallas will not have a better opportunity against a basically inexperienced team that hasn't had to play in situations where they are required to win.

No one has really taken them seriously up to now.

But December is where teams are fighting to get in the playoffs and the games get much tougher to win.

We'll see.

That's a crazy comment Red.
But you're entitled to it, I guess.

One thing we do agree on; if Dallas plays a great game they can win. That applies to any team they play.

Also, the urgency should be much greater for Dallas.
Carolina could lose this game it 'd have zero affect on their season. If Dallas loses, well, we know those ramifications.
WAY bigger game for Dallas.

It sets up well to some degree.
If Carolina is gonna take a loss, traveling on a very short week to an amped up opponent who has its back completely in the corner would be the time to do it.
 
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That's some interesting trivia....

"According to the Elias Sports Bureau, Romo is the only starting quarterback all-time to have multiple wins against teams that 9-0 or better."

However, I'm right near the front of the line in saying QBs don't get wins, teams get wins and QBs help lead them. It's not tennis or golf. If we say Romo doesn't get loses, then he doesn't get wins either....and this is coming from a big fan of his.

Not sure about this logic. Romo carries this team to wins. Carries them. When they lose, Romo carried them...just not quite far enough. If you're the primary factor that drives the team to a win, you can still easily be the least influential factor in a loss.
 

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Not sure about this logic. Romo carries this team to wins. Carries them. When they lose, Romo carried them...just not quite far enough. If you're the primary factor that drives the team to a win, you can still easily be the least influential factor in a loss.

I'd agree that the QB, and especially a good one, is more of a factor than other positions on average.
No doubt.

I just never liked the simpleton approach of assigning wins and losses to QBs.

When Romo threw for 500+ yards, had 5 TDs and 1 int and an otherworldly QB rating, but STILL his team lost to Denver when the Broncos didn't have to punt one time....I have a hard time saying "he" lost.
The team game thing works both ways.
But yes, the QB (and especially Romo and his peer group) are huge factor u.
 

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I'd agree that the QB, and especially a good one, is more of a factor than other positions on average.
No doubt.

I just never liked the simpleton approach of assigning wins and losses to QBs.

When Romo threw for 500+ yards, had 5 TDs and 1 int and an otherworldly QB rating, but STILL his team lost to Denver when the Broncos didn't have to punt one time....I have a hard time saying "he" lost.
The team game thing works both ways.
But yes, the QB (and especially Romo and his peer group) are huge factor u.

A win and a loss have nothing to do with one another -- they are separate games, with separate factors driving the dependent variable (i.e. the outcome of the game). As such, Romo could easily be the biggest factor driving a win and could be a much lesser factor in a loss.
 

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A win and a loss have nothing to do with one another -- they are separate games, with separate factors driving the dependent variable (i.e. the outcome of the game). As such, Romo could easily be the biggest factor driving a win and could be a much lesser factor in a loss.

Sure.
Each game has it's own scenario win or lose. He could play a big role in a win or loss and he could play a small role in both as well. That's why I tend to not assign wins and loses directly to one player....though there's no doubt one player can play a huge role though.

Hey, Joe Flacco once "won" a playoff game while having the worst QB rating (a 10) in the history of the playoffs. 4 completions, no TDs, 1 int...yet, hey, he was a "winner".
 

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If modern professional football is truly a game of passing efficiency, the most likely victor is the team that passes more efficiently. Which quarterback is more likely to have the higher efficiency rating? I vote Romo.
 

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If modern professional football is truly a game of passing efficiency, the most likely victor is the team that passes more efficiently. Which quarterback is more likely to have the higher efficiency rating? I vote Romo.

Kind of the stance I'm taking. All other things being equal (they never are, but why waste time trying to determine what all those "others" are?), Romo is a better QB than Newton. QBs are (generally speaking) the most significant factor in the outcome of a game. So I'm pretty confident we'll win. Obviously, the better QB doesn't always win because of those aforementioned other factors, but again, impossible to predict the exact composition of those other factors, so easier to focus on the most significant single factor.
 

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I'd agree that the QB, and especially a good one, is more of a factor than other positions on average.
No doubt.

I just never liked the simpleton approach of assigning wins and losses to QBs.

When Romo threw for 500+ yards, had 5 TDs and 1 int and an otherworldly QB rating, but STILL his team lost to Denver when the Broncos didn't have to punt one time....I have a hard time saying "he" lost.
The team game thing works both ways.
But yes, the QB (and especially Romo and his peer group) are huge factor u.

The team thing doesn't work both ways with THIS team. Name me one game that Dallas won where Romo played poorly throughout. Other teams like the Steelers managed to pull that off sometimes, we NEVER do.

It is all on Romo. The rest of the team is incapable of winning.
 

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That's a crazy comment Red.
But you're entitled to it, I guess.

One thing we do agree on; if Dallas plays a great game they can win. That applies to any team they play.

Also, the urgency should be much greater for Dallas.
Carolina could lose this game it 'd have zero affect on their season. If Dallas loses, well, we know those ramifications.
WAY bigger game for Dallas.

It sets up well to some degree.
If Carolina is gonna take a loss, traveling on a very short week to an amped up opponent who has its back completely in the corner would be the time to do it.

When I say inexperienced..

I mean they were what? 7-8-1 and made the playoffs and exited quickly?

So until they win against quality opponents..

I don't buy any of the media hype.

The media wants to anoint Cam as deserving..

but If anybody is deserving its Romo.

He has been so disrespected as a QB and a loser..

and despite last year..

Romo is cast as a star-struck dude who never gets the respect he should.

And I heard the guys on ESPN saying today does Romo deserve to be considered MVP if he gets Dallas into the playoffs..

and most of the panel still said Brady and Cam for MVP because of all they have overcome..

which to me is ludicrous.

If Romo brings us back..coupled to last year's performance..

MVP.
 

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I'd like to see him add another one of those wins tomorrow. I think he can do it.

It's going to be a tough win to get but I do think that the Cowboys can get it.
 

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The team thing doesn't work both ways with THIS team. Name me one game that Dallas won where Romo played poorly throughout. Other teams like the Steelers managed to pull that off sometimes, we NEVER do.

It is all on Romo. The rest of the team is incapable of winning.

But can I name plenty of games where we LOST and he played well. So the team thing does apply, imo. Can't win by yourself and can't lose by yourself.

True though....Far, FAR less where we won and he played poorly...but I do recall a 5 interception Buffalo game that we won a few years back.
 

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When I say inexperienced..

I mean they were what? 7-8-1 and made the playoffs and exited quickly?

So until they win against quality opponents..

I don't buy any of the media hype.

The media wants to anoint Cam as deserving..

but If anybody is deserving its Romo.

He has been so disrespected as a QB and a loser..

and despite last year..

Romo is cast as a star-struck dude who never gets the respect he should.

And I heard the guys on ESPN saying today does Romo deserve to be considered MVP if he gets Dallas into the playoffs..

and most of the panel still said Brady and Cam for MVP because of all they have overcome..

which to me is ludicrous.

If Romo brings us back..coupled to last year's performance..

MVP.

Tony Romo will never win the MVP award. It doesn't matter what he does. It doesn't matter if he leads the league in QBR, passing yards per attempt...etc..

Oh wait, he did last year. Yeah they'll never give it to him, which is a shame.
 
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