ESPNDallas: Garrett doesn't want to be one-dimensional

[Doomsday101]

Uhm, no we didn't.

Yes we were among the leading teams in penalties.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I'm not sure where this meme started from, other than maybe it was just repeated so often on teh intertubes that it became a fact.


2003 - 12th fewest Penalties
2004 - 9th fewest Penalties.
2005 - 7th fewest Penalties
2006 - 21st fewest Penalties.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/stats/b...sort=505&old_category=Total&old_group=Offense

His last year here was the only year we really had a penalty problem. We were actually a very penalty free team for most of his tenure here. His bar was set so high that merely being 9th best in penalties was a big deal.

Maybe it says something about where we've set the bar for Wade/Garrett that we just casually accept 31st in penalties (currently), 32nd in penalties (2008), and 27th in penalties (2007). Low expectations are a beautiful thing when it comes to job evaluations.

 

[802dave]

He seems to get impatient. After we drove the field running the offense exactly how it should be run, we ended up missing a TD pass (a tad high and Austin jumped off the wrong foot) and then missed a FG, it seemed like Garrett felt like he had to hurry up and make up for that possession as fast as he could, instead of just doing what he did on the first drive. The second we get behid, no matter by how much, Garrett seems to get impatient, especially if it's after a lost opportunity. This is where a Dan Reeves would have helped. There is no one there to tell Garrett to take a breath.

Couldn't agree more!

 

[Doomsday101]

2003 - 12th fewest Penalties
2004 - 9th fewest Penalties.
2005 - 7th fewest Penalties
2006 - 21st fewest Penalties.

His last year here was the only year we really had a penalty problem. We were actually a very penalty free team for most of his tenure here. His bar was set so high that merely being 9th best in penalties was a big deal.

Maybe it says something about where we've set the bar for Wade/Garrett that we just casually accept 31st in penalties (currently), 32nd in penalties (2008), and 27th in penalties (2007).

Going by that our 119 we had last year ranks would have ranked among the fewest in many of the years you post. Dallas was still getting 100 or more penalties during these seasons only season we had less was than 100 was in 05 with 99.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I'm not sure where this meme started from, other than maybe it was just repeated so often on teh intertubes that it became a fact.


2003 - 12th fewest Penalties
2004 - 9th fewest Penalties.
2005 - 7th fewest Penalties
2006 - 21st fewest Penalties.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/stats/b...sort=505&old_category=Total&old_group=Offense

His last year here was the only year we really had a penalty problem. We were actually a very penalty free team for most of his tenure here. His bar was set so high that merely being 9th best in penalties was a big deal.

Maybe it says something about where we've set the bar for Wade/Garrett that we just casually accept 31st in penalties (currently), 32nd in penalties (2008), and 27th in penalties (2007). Low expectations are a beautiful thing when it comes to job evaluations.

wow, ****ing ownage

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Going by that our 119 we had last year ranks would have ranked among the fewest in many of the years you post. Dallas was still getting 100 or more penalties during these seasons only season we had less was than 100 was in 05 with 99.

that's more an indictment on the NFL officiating

 

[craig71]

Quote:
Originally Posted by craig71
You mean these plays:

Romo overthrew Austin

Romo overthrew Bennett

Romo bad pass behind Witten

Folk missed field goal from 38 yards

Williams fumble

Williams drop

Witten penalty negated Choice 1st down

Craig



Yeah, you're right. They will keep coming with run and pass blitzes until you stop it. But it wasn't just execution which caused them to keep coming. It was also play calling. You beat the blitz with quick slants, bubble screens, draws, and screens yada. You can also keep running the ball and you will break one. And the wildcat is a good scheme to run in.

For whatever reason they couldn't identify the defensive keys and where the pressure was coming from.Without being in the film room during the week it would be impossible to say if they were ill-prepared or just didn't execute.Or for that matter what the game plan was.It was interesting to see some no-huddle mixed in early in the game though.

It isn't all on Garrett except in the sense the offense is his show. However, it fails is on him. Players need to execute because he's only the coach. But he needs to put them in the best position to succeed. And that wasn't done Sunday with any continuity.

They had chances to succeed,they just didn't make the play.The drops,a fumble,a missed field goal,the overthrows and an interception were on plays that had a chance to change the game.If they make a couple of those plays it could very well have changed how the game was called.

What is most bothersome is there is a template for other teams to attack the offense. Eventually they have to step up and defeat blitzes. They do that with execution, recognition, and the right plays.

I think Capers took a page out of Nolans playbook in Denver.Capers used the same basic philosophy to beat Dallas with a few of Capers defensive wrinkles.

They have beat the blitz a couple of times this year but they have not beat the blitz near enough to cause opposing coordinators to fear them.The biggest concern I have is from blitzing defensive backs.For whatever reason they don't do a good job of picking up the corner blitz or a delayed blitz through the "B" gap.What's strange is that Crayton read blitz on the sack and fumble but Adams and Romo didn't see it,they had enough players to protect but they failed to be on the same page.With Crayton reading blitz that seems to indicate that they had worked on that particular blitz package though.

You are right about the recognition,executioin and right play call.However until this team can consistently recognize and execute.the play call won't matter all that much.Because even the perfect call won't gain a yard if the players can't recognize and execute the play.

Craig

 

[jobberone]

I think Capers took a page out of Nolans playbook in Denver.Capers used the same basic philosophy to beat Dallas with a few of Capers defensive wrinkles.

They have beat the blitz a couple of times this year but they have not beat the blitz near enough to cause opposing coordinators to fear them.The biggest concern I have is from blitzing defensive backs.For whatever reason they don't do a good job of picking up the corner blitz or a delayed blitz through the "B" gap.What's strange is that Crayton read blitz on the sack and fumble but Adams and Romo didn't see it,they had enough players to protect but they failed to be on the same page.With Crayton reading blitz that seems to indicate that they had worked on that particular blitz package though.

You are right about the recognition,executioin and right play call.However until this team can consistently recognize and execute.the play call won't matter all that much.Because even the perfect call won't gain a yard if the players can't recognize and execute the play.

Craig

And they can't execute a play destined to fail either. Better said may be you aren't going anywhere even with execution if the wrong plays are called.

They all have to happen or just have a super play by someone making something out of nothing.

I'll say it again. That was a cooperative fail by everyone. We looked like bums. They looked like Pro Bowlers all over the place.

We sucked it up.

 

[superpunk]

Maybe it says something about where we've set the bar for Wade/Garrett that we just casually accept 31st in penalties (currently), 32nd in penalties (2008), and 27th in penalties (2007). Low expectations are a beautiful thing when it comes to job evaluations.

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[Alexander]

wow, ****ing ownage

That is was. Well done, Inman.

 

[kramskoi]

I think Capers took a page out of Nolans playbook in Denver.Capers used the same basic philosophy to beat Dallas with a few of Capers defensive wrinkles.

They have beat the blitz a couple of times this year but they have not beat the blitz near enough to cause opposing coordinators to fear them.The biggest concern I have is from blitzing defensive backs.For whatever reason they don't do a good job of picking up the corner blitz or a delayed blitz through the "B" gap.What's strange is that Crayton read blitz on the sack and fumble but Adams and Romo didn't see it,they had enough players to protect but they failed to be on the same page.With Crayton reading blitz that seems to indicate that they had worked on that particular blitz package though.

You are right about the recognition,executioin and right play call.However until this team can consistently recognize and execute.the play call won't matter all that much.Because even the perfect call won't gain a yard if the players can't recognize and execute the play.

Craig

...the ole delayed blitz...same thing happened in Denver from the same side and Bennett seem to see it but Romo i don't know...we can put it on Adams for not blocking out but i still believe that Romo has to be more aware in those types of situations especially on the road...Crayton was definitely waiting for that ball...i guess this is what Dungy meant when he said that Romo "has to see this"...

 

[craig71]

And they can't execute a play destined to fail either. Better said may be you aren't going anywhere even with execution if the wrong plays are called.

They all have to happen or just have a super play by someone making something out of nothing.

I'll say it again. That was a cooperative fail by everyone. We looked like bums. They looked like Pro Bowlers all over the place.

We sucked it up.

I screwed up the quote function somehow,all of my rebuttal got lost somewhere on the previous post.I'll try again.

You can argue play calling vs. execution all day long,but unless you know the play calls and also have game tape to break down what happened frame by frame you can't really tell what happened and why.And no,the footage that you see on TV doesn't allow you to fully see what is going on.I'm just of the opinion that Dallas can't execute or identify on a consistent basis.It can just as easily be said that the play calling is the major fault.In reality neither side has the necessary information to say one way or the other.Most likely the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

I agree that the staff has to be accountable as well,but the players left some plays on the field that could have changed the way the game was called.Are the players solely at fault,no.Are the coaches solely to blame,no.So,yes you are corect that the loss was a cooperative loss as it appears the players didn't play as expected and the staff didn't have the team prepared for some of the looks that Capers showed them.Without knowing what the game plan was going into the game and what was discussed during the week in film study it is nearly impossible to distribute more blame on the staff or on the players.Bottom line is that Green Bay whipped this team like the proverbial "Red Headed Step Child".


Craig

 

[craig71]

...the ole delayed blitz...same thing happened in Denver from the same side and Bennett seem to see it but Romo i don't know...we can put it on Adams for not blocking out but i still believe that Romo has to be more aware in those types of situations especially on the road...Crayton was definitely waiting for that ball...i guess this is what Dungy meant when he said that Romo "has to see this"...

I've seen the game tape from the Denver game(that play),you can see the back cheating in and Romo never appears to look in his direction.They lined up and Romo never really scans the field,the ball is snapped and Romo was locked onto the right side of the field and then gets drilled.

The play in Green Bay seemed like somebody dropped the ball.They had enough protection called but Adams failed to pick up the back.Romo assumed that he had time and gets drilled.Crayton on that play read blitz,I don't know why Romo and Adams didn't.They say Adams is at fault but I don't like the odds of Adams picking up a speedy back.

Even Rhonde Barber sacked Romo off the edge in the first game of the year.Rhonde sacked Romo from his open side,so he should have saw that one coming.

All three of those plays came off the edge,there were some more blitzes off the edge in the other games that didn't end in a sack but ended with a few hits.For some reason they have been slightly more successful picking up the delays through the "A" or "B" gaps than from the edge.The big play from Crayton in Philly had a delay coming through the "B" gap if I remember correctly.

Craig

 

[Bob Sacamano]

you guys gotta assign some blame to Gurode on that play too, as the C he's supposed to scan the field too and notice if a blitz is coming or not, he just went straight to the snap count

and the dude is capable of making mental gaffes re Romo yelling at him to snap the ball last year, and watching the fumbled ball instead of trying to jump on it

 

[InmanRoshi]

It would be an interesting study to look at current offensive coaches who have played the quarterback position at either the NFL or even upper tier Div I NCAA level and see how unbalanced they are in favor of the pass. It often seems like any former QB will almost automatically default back to the pass in times of doubt, because they are inherently more comfortable putting the game in the quarterback's hands rather than a runningback and/or offensive line. I don't think it's any coincidence that Steve Spurrier installs a fun and gun offense given the way he played QB as a player. Off the top of my head, there's really not very many former NFL quarterbacks coaching in the NFL at either the HC or OC level ... and maybe that's for a reason (hello Jim Zorn).

 

[craig71]

you guys gotta assign some blame to Gurode on that play too, as the C he's supposed to scan the field too and notice if a blitz is coming or not, he just went straight to the snap count

and the dude is capable of making mental gaffes re Romo yelling at him to snap the ball last year, and watching the fumbled ball instead of trying to jump on it

I can't put that one on Gurode,it would be very difficult for him to see a blitz coming off the edge.If the blitz had come through the interior of the line it would be another story.In theory,having the quarterback in shotgun should allow him to scan the field and identify his keys alot easier than from under center.

Craig

 

[Chocolate Lab]

It would be an interesting study to look at current offensive coaches who have played the quarterback position at either the NFL or even upper tier Div I NCAA level and see how unbalanced they are in favor of the pass. It often seems like any former QB will almost automatically fall back to the pass in times of doubt, because as former QBs they want the ball in the quarterback's hands. There's really not very many former NFL quarterbacks coaching in the NFL ... and maybe that's for a reason.

Exactly what I was saying the other day. Seems like most of your better coaches are either former defensive coaches or offensive line coaches. I'm not sure a former QB appreciates the physical part of the game enough.