Even NY sports writers say Dak is the MVP

[coult44]

Zeke ROY, Dak MVP, Garrett COY, Jerry Jones EOY, Dallas Cowboys Super Bowl champions.

I'd be happy with that.

"They can have all the individual awards, we want to win"
Dez Bryant

 

[coult44]

You need to stop talking on this.

Aaron Rodgers won the MVP award in 2014. In a December game, he went up against the Bills threw 2 INTs, 185 yards on 41 pass attempts, for a QB rating of 34.3

Derek Carr tonight

117 yards on 41 passes, 0 TDs, 0 INTs

But this will drop Carr as the MVP frontrunner while Rodgers still won it? Give me a break. Get back to me if Carr performs like this the rest of the season. Because if not, he really only has two players that could potentially beat him: Stafford and Brady. Zeke needs to have some seriously great performances to win it, because as of now he's just having a really good year at this point and won't even top the "JAG RB" that ran behind this line just 2 years ago.

"Really good year"???

Teams put 8-9 guys in the box and he still does what he wants. Coaches game plan their entire game around him, and he still does what he wants. Are you drunk, or 12?

 

[JJHLH1]

You need to stop talking on this.

Aaron Rodgers won the MVP award in 2014. In a December game, he went up against the Bills threw 2 INTs, 185 yards on 41 pass attempts, for a QB rating of 34.3

Derek Carr tonight

117 yards on 41 passes, 0 TDs, 0 INTs

But this will drop Carr as the MVP frontrunner while Rodgers still won it? Give me a break. Get back to me if Carr performs like this the rest of the season. Because if not, he really only has two players that could potentially beat him: Stafford and Brady. Zeke needs to have some seriously great performances to win it, because as of now he's just having a really good year at this point and won't even top the "JAG RB" that ran behind this line just 2 years ago.

Derick Carr is 17th among quarterbacks in Expected Points Added (EPA) a stat which is highly correlated with who wins MVP. No way he wins MVP when he's in the bottom half of the league in arguably the most important stat.

Rogers was first in EPA in 2014, a big reason he was MVP.

Dak is first in EPA in 2016. If he continues his excellent play he deserves the award.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr

 

[mattjames2010]

"Really good year"???

Teams put 8-9 guys in the box and he still does what he wants. Coaches game plan their entire game around him, and he still does what he wants. Are you drunk, or 12?

LOL now it's "8-9" guys in the box? Wanna back this up?

So is this you admitting teams don't fear Dak or are you just talking out of your ***? I'll await those stats and percentages of the amount of times defenses have loaded the box on us.

 

[mattjames2010]

Derick Carr is 17th among quarterbacks in Expected Points Added (EPA) a stat which is highly correlated with who wins MVP. No way he wins MVP when he's in the bottom half of the league in arguably the most important stat.

Rogers was first in EPA in 2014, a big reason he was MVP.

Dak is first in EPA in 2016. If he continues his excellent play he deserves the award.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr

LOL He. Is. The. Front. Runner. Despite. That.

What aren't you getting? "Highly correlated" - LOL

The MVP award isn't some secret surprise award that pops up out of nowhere at the end of the season. It's easily predictable.

Show me one year the MVP surprised the league/fans. Carr is the front runner despite the "EPA" bologne you are putting forth. Unless he has a significant drop off, and it has to be an absurd drop off, he's the MVP this year.

 

[marchetta]

Zeke ROY, Dak MVP, Garrett COY, Jerry Jones EOY, Dallas Cowboys Super Bowl champions.

I'd be happy with that.

That's how I see it.

 

[TNCowboy]

IMO, EE's the Cowboys mvp and it's not really debatable. Dak's been great, but he hasn't really had to carry the team. Not to diminish how clutch he's been, but defenses can't play the Cowboys the way the Chiefs did last night in shutting down Carr because they know EE will gash them.

Brady will probably be mvp if he continues to play the way he is. I think the only way EE or DP win is if the Cowboys win out and one or the other has a monster finish and Brady finishes just ok.

Carr will get some consideration, but he won't win.

I might vote for Kahlil Mack if I had a vote. He carries an otherwise bad Raider defense.

 

[mattjames2010]

IMO, EE's the Cowboys mvp and it's not really debatable. Dak's been great, but he hasn't really had to carry the team. Not to diminish how clutch he's been, but defenses can't play the Cowboys the way the Chiefs did last night in shutting down Carr because they know EE will gash them.

Brady will probably be mvp if he continues to play the way he is. I think the only way EE or DP win is if the Cowboys win out and one or the other has a monster finish and Brady finishes just ok.

Carr will get some consideration, but he won't win.

I might vote for Kahlil Mack if I had a vote. He carries an otherwise bad Raider defense.

So, Murray deserved MVP in 2014?

 

[JJHLH1]

LOL He. Is. The. Front. Runner. Despite. That.

What aren't you getting? "Highly correlated" - LOL

The MVP award isn't some secret surprise award that pops up out of nowhere at the end of the season. It's easily predictable.

Show me one year the MVP surprised the league/fans. Carr is the front runner despite the "EPA" bologne you are putting forth. Unless he has a significant drop off, and it has to be an absurd drop off, he's the MVP this year.

Dismal Showing in Loss to Chiefs Quashes Derek Carr's MVP Candidacy

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...to-chiefs-quashes-dereks-carrs-mvp-candidacy#

 

[mattjames2010]

Dismal Showing in Loss to Chiefs Quashes Derek Carr's MVP Candidacy

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...to-chiefs-quashes-dereks-carrs-mvp-candidacy#

Yet again, because I'm starting to think you're either slow or being intentionally obtuse.

I already showed you the Rodgers performance in December (Your "highly correlated" crap was nonsense by the way). There are games left in the season. IF he performs like he did last night for the rest of the year, we have a discussion. IF he gets back to his USUAL ways, he is right back to the front runner.

Can you show me the last time an RB with Zeke's number and the pace he is on winning the MVP? The last RB to win an MVP award was Adrian Peterson, who nearly broke the rushing record. Before that was LT and Shaun Alexander, both of which had over 20 rushing TDs, nearly 30 actually. It will not be Zeke unless he completely sets the league on fire in the next few games.

You then move onto Dak. Dak, in most articles, has him from 3-5. He will, again, need to set the league on fire and do more than what he has done the past two weeks to win NFL MVP. Put your personal bias aside, take off the homer glasses and think. There are still many people out there who believe there is simply too much talent on this offense to put Dak at #1 and to win MVP.

It will come down to Carr, Brady, Stafford, with Zeke in fourth UNLESS something drastically changes. But yet again, the MVP race is not hard to predict, normally you get a pretty good idea who will be the two battling for the MVP award around this time. In 2014, it was Rodgers and Romo and the majority were saying it was Rodgers before it was announced.

Carr is the front runner, and if that changes, it will be Brady.

 

[JJHLH1]

I already showed you the Rodgers performance in December (Your "highly correlated" crap was nonsense by the way).

You need to educate yourself because now you just sound silly.

"There is another metric, however, that might be an even better gauge of a quarterback’s value to his team. QB points added accounts for both efficiency and usage. The number associated with this statistic represents the number of points on the field a quarterback contributes over the course of the season, beyond what would be expected of an average quarterback (one with a QBR of 50) with the same number of plays.

It makes sense that a quarterback who both is efficient and has a high usage rate would receive greater consideration for the NFL MVP award, and such quarterbacks have! Seven of the past eight quarterbacks to win MVP ranked in the top two in that statistic in their award-winning seasons."

http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/126836/why-dak-prescott-is-the-nfls-mvp

 

[mattjames2010]

You need to educate yourself because now you just sound silly.

"There is another metric, however, that might be an even better gauge of a quarterback’s value to his team. QB points added accounts for both efficiency and usage. The number associated with this statistic represents the number of points on the field a quarterback contributes over the course of the season, beyond what would be expected of an average quarterback (one with a QBR of 50) with the same number of plays.

It makes sense that a quarterback who both is efficient and has a high usage rate would receive greater consideration for the NFL MVP award, and such quarterbacks have! Seven of the past eight quarterbacks to win MVP ranked in the top two in that statistic in their award-winning seasons."

http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/126836/why-dak-prescott-is-the-nfls-mvp

And yet, he's not #1 on the very site you are showing. Again, it's bollocks, genius. That's not how MVP works.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...derek-carr-oakland-raiders-tops-espn-rankings

You're using ESPN to validate your opinion without making an argument. Most of ESPNs "experts" do not have Prescott at #1, and they sure as hell didn't change it in the past 2 games.

Again, stop wasting my time. Because the vaunted ESPN statistics isn't determining how their "experts" are predicting the MVP conclusion.

 

[Tass]

Apparently, another Eagles player thinks that Carson Wentz is the best player in the NFL (look at the ballot under the top one)....

That second guy had Wentz first and Demarco Murray second!

Wow...

 

[mattjames2010]

The best argument I've seen for one of our players winning MVP is mainly due to vote splitting between the QBs. If this is the case, it would most likely go to Zeke.

 

[Jinxx13x]

Nobody ever accused New Yorkers of being smart.

Hey hey hey I'm from NY LOL but i am moving to NC LOL

 

[mattjames2010]

That second guy had Wentz first and Demarco Murray second!

Wow...

It might be Derek Carr and not Murray.

 

[Tass]

It might be Derek Carr and not Murray.

Oh, yeah...forgot about him. So did the guy who filled out the first ballot!

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

IMO, EE's the Cowboys mvp and it's not really debatable. Dak's been great, but he hasn't really had to carry the team. Not to diminish how clutch he's been, but defenses can't play the Cowboys the way the Chiefs did last night in shutting down Carr because they know EE will gash them.

Brady will probably be mvp if he continues to play the way he is. I think the only way EE or DP win is if the Cowboys win out and one or the other has a monster finish and Brady finishes just ok.

Carr will get some consideration, but he won't win.

I might vote for Kahlil Mack if I had a vote. He carries an otherwise bad Raider defense.

Dak leads in QBR, that stat alone says he does more than just carry a team.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr