Everyone else did, so heres my QB research.

[BigDFan5]

All first round QBs from 1990-2003


9 out of 29 are above average gives us a 30% chance for an above average QB

3 definate Elite Qbs (Manning, McNabb, Palmer)




2003

Carson Palmer- Franchise QB
Byron leftwich- Cant stay on field, above average when he plays
Kyle Boller- hahahaha
Rex Grossman- 8 games in 3 years big injury liability

2002

David Carr- Looking like he is close to being called a bust

Joey Harrington- Bust

Patrick Ramsey- Benched half dozen times BUST


2001

Mike Vick- Great Running back


2000

Chad Pennington- Nothing special and has a blown arm


1999

Tim Couch- Bust

Donovann McNabb- Top 10 QB

Akili Smith- hahahahha

Daunte Caulpepper- Looked Elite with Moss, looked average without him

Cade McNown- Who? lol



1998

Peyton manning- The ultimate QB

Ryan leif- The Anti Manning



1997

Jim Druckenmiller- NEXT!


1996

none



1995

Steve McNair- Made it to a superbowl was a great QB at one time

Kerry Collins- above average



1994

Heath Schuler- Bust

Trent Dilfer- defense won him a SB but he was a bust as a 1st rd QB



1993

Drew Bledsoe- Above average QB, Considered Elite at one point

Rick Mirer- Poor Seattle


1992

Dave Brown- ouch

David Klinger- ouch


1991

Dan McGwire- At least his brother was good LOL

Todd Marinovich- poor guy drugs took him over



1990

Jeff george- Million dollar arm 10 cent head

Andre Ware- It was the Lions what did you expect

 

[BigDFan5]

Now I would sure love to have a Elite QB, but I dont want any mid round reaches. If and when we do draft a 1st rd QB I pray our scouts do some serious homework

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Dunno...

If you are trying to say picking Quarterbacks in the 1st Round is no gurantee then I agree.

But...

If you are saying it doesn't start with the Quarterback, I totally disagree.

Dunno...

- Mike G.

 

[BigDFan5]

Dunno...

If you are trying to say picking Quarterbacks in the 1st Round is no gurantee then I agree.

But...

If you are saying it doesn't start with the Quarterback, I totally disagree.

Dunno...

- Mike G.

I am saying what I said in post 2. a 1st round QB is not a sure fire chance at success. If/when we do take one I hope our scouts dont let us down

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Culpepper also lost his OC.

Take a peek at his games with out Moss last season.

7 TDs compared to 1 int.
71+ Completion percentage.
Over 250 yards per game passing.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Now I would sure love to have a Elite QB, but I dont want any mid round reaches. If and when we do draft a 1st rd QB I pray our scouts do some serious homework

also hope that our coaching staff develops him properly, and he gets it one day

 

[BigDFan5]

Culpepper also lost his OC.

Take a peek at his games with out Moss last season.

7 TDs compared to 1 int.
71+ Completion percentage.
Over 250 yards per game passing.

I have done this before.

Before the Moss injury he was averaging (over 5 games)

353 yards per game
3.6 TDs per game
0.6 INTs per game
73% completion %

When Moss was injured (5 games)

236 yards per game
1.8 TDs per game
0.6 INTs per game
68% completions



After Moss came back

295 yards per game
2 TDs per game
0.8 INTs per game
68% completions



So as we see he had killer numbers before Moss got hurt, they dropped alot when he got hurt, and rose again when he came back

 

[SkinsandTerps]

7 TDs over 3 games is more than 1.8

My numbers are correct. I didnt look at his yardage vs. with Moss. But his overall production is damn good.

 

[big dog cowboy]

All first round QBs from 1990-2003

9 out of 29 are above average gives us a 30% chance for an above average QB

3 definate Elite Qbs (Manning, McNabb, Palmer)

Which adds up to ZERO super bowl rings. So much for "elite".

 

[neosapien23]

Carr is not a bust. The dude cannot not take a 3 step drop without getting sacked. Can we give him a good Oline without labeling him a bust?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

hey BigD, wanna hear a funny joke?

how do you keep Wolverine busy and out of your hair?

 

[BigDFan5]

7 TDs over 3 games is more than 1.8

My numbers are correct. I didnt look at his yardage vs. with Moss. But his overall production is damn good.

your numbers are wrong if you count games Moss was hurt in week 7 and left, came back to try and play week 8 then left after a couple plays

He had 0 catches in neither game because he barely played

 

[Wolverine]

Now I would sure love to have a Elite QB, but I dont want any mid round reaches. If and when we do draft a 1st rd QB I pray our scouts do some serious homework

If Henson was bein brought along right we would not even have to worry about this. Henson has everything to be that ELITE QB. That will go down as my biggest prob with Parcells. I think he has totally screwed up things with Henson.

If BP knew he was gonna sit the man he shoulda gone to NFLE last year so he would be more along this year.


I will say it now...if Parcells has no other choice and has to play Henson for whatever reason.....Henson will not lose the job. He will learn fast and surprise alota people.


What just gets me is that Coughlin coulda stayed with Kurt Warner and they were not outta the playoffs yet. But he went with the future in ELI Manning. Eli looked worse then Henson or Romo at first. Now.....if you be real about it you can see Eli is on his way to being a very good QB in the NFL.

Maybe if Parcells woulda done something like that with Henson this year or next year he would be ready to really take off and be our QB of the future.


Parcells really screwed that up for us.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Carr is not a bust. The dude cannot not take a 3 step drop without getting sacked. Can we give him a good Oline without labeling him a bust?

Henson and ROmo haven't even gotten on the field, yet everyone's calling them a bust

so no, we can't

 

[BigDFan5]

Carr is not a bust. The dude cannot not take a 3 step drop without getting sacked. Can we give him a good Oline without labeling him a bust?

He has had 4 years hasnt shown a thing, he is a bust until proven otherwise

 

[BigDFan5]

hey BigD, wanna hear a funny joke?

how do you keep Wolverine busy and out of your hair?

Show him a picture of TO?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

If Henson was bein brought along right we would not even have to worry about this. Henson has everything to be that ELITE QB. That will go down as my biggest prob with Parcells. I think he has totally screwed up things with Henson.

you have no proof to back any of this up

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Show him a picture of TO?

you *******!

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Moss did not play in 3 consecutive weeks.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/12576/gamelogs/2004

These are the weeks I am talking about.

 

[BigDFan5]

Moss did not play in 3 consecutive weeks.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/12576/gamelogs/2004

These are the weeks I am talking about.

I know he did not play in 3 weeks, but as I said if you read my last post he was hurt early in the week 7 game and left the field 0 catches, He also tried to come back and played 2 plays week 8 then reinjured himself and left the game o catches.


So do you want to count games he played just a couple plays in as a game played?