Everyone see this Cole Beasley Argument?

conner01

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I like Josh Allen but according to this place if you have yet to win a SB after 6 years you just can't win one. Allen has to win it or he just vastly overpaid. Yeah puts up stats but it is not about stats it is about rings and thus far has none
It’s funny how that standard only applies to some QB’s lol
 

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Ummm okay?

Could you not interpret this as him saying Dak is a much lesser QB and he still had his best season with him?
I don’t think that’s what he meant. Him having his best years under Dak is just a fact. Allen is an elite QB even though he didn’t have his best season last year. He’s a better QB than Dak and I like Dak. I don’t think he was saying Dak was better than Allen though some interpreted it that way
He may just be lobbying for a trip to Texas lol
 

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Putting the Dak argument aside for a second, the lack of postseason success is why I can't call Allen elite either. In the AFC he is way behind Mahomes and Burrow in my opinion. Burrow has shown more in fewer years than Allen.

As for Beasley, he's right too. Caught 75 passes in 2016 and that really put him on the map. That's all he's saying.
 

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You really couldn't play better than Allen did in the 2021 playoffs, yet they still lost to KC in OT without ever getting the ball.
Not so much this year
I agree. Dak played a very good game vs GB in post season and defense gave up big play in the end that gave GB the win. I think Allen is a great QB and as I said if given the choice of Allen or Dak I would take Allen. Again what I have said is Dallas can win with Dak. If we are to believe the talking heads then Allen who has yet to win now will likely never win a SB heading into this 6th season and making big money. Myself I don't buy that nor do I buy into the notion Dak can't win
 

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I don’t think that’s what he meant. Him having his best years under Dak is just a fact. Allen is an elite QB even though he didn’t have his best season last year. He’s a better QB than Dak and I like Dak. I don’t think he was saying Dak was better than Allen though some interpreted it that way
He may just be lobbying for a trip to Texas lol
Okay. You "don't think" - my point is, you can interpret that any way you want. It's just silly to make a post about this. And I don't read this as him trying to get back here, I see it as Beasley simply arguing with some rando on Twitter and propping himself up that he made himself before going to Buffalo.

This is why I push for a Dak zone, posts like this. This is clear bait by someone with a Dak obsession.
 

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Okay. You "don't think" - my point is, you can interpret that any way you want. It's just silly to make a post about this. And I don't read this as him trying to get back here, I see it as Beasley simply arguing with some rando on Twitter and propping himself up that he made himself before going to Buffalo.

This is why I push for a Dak zone, posts like this. This is clear bait by someone with a Dak obsession.

Who would that be? Clearly not talking about Ken are you. Ken does not crush on Dak...wait. Nevermind.
 

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Cole always speaks the truth, but folks either be sheep or helping push agendas that hate on that Man. Facts, Cole was cold before he stepped in Buffalo, and him and Dak did well together.

Josh Allen is better than Dak. Ppl will pull stats out their arse and things of that nature, but it's not even a debate.
 

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Put Brady and Dak in the ring and let them fight over Zeke. We already saw how Dak fights...got the hell beat out of him. lol. Brady would kick his butt and he is old!
dak's a lover not a fighter, or a quarterback

he fights like he's throwing a pass, swing and it's a miss.
 

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Josh Allen has 6 (.75 per game) playoff turnovers to Dak's 5 (.83 per game).

He has 4 INTs (.5 per game) to Dak's 5 (.83 per game).
He has 20 TDs to Dak's 15.
He has a 99.6 rating to Dak's 92.3
He has a 63.75% to Dak's 63.45% completion rate
He has a 7.55 YPA (8.07 AYPA) to Dak's 7.22 (7.19 AYPA)
He has 417 Yards Rushing (6.62 YPC) to Dak's 118 (4.72)
He has 2334 Yards (292 YPG) passing to Dak's 1559 (260 YPG)
first off don't use total yards and what not you said he has 2 more games. also looked it up you are not adding correctly.

Secondly

NO its not JUST 4 Ints add in 6 his fumbles are T/OS sorry dude a turnover isn't just an INT he has 11 TOTAL MISTAKES ie Turnovers

i know its shocking some of you Josh Fan boys on a coverup but its out there . ones elite those numbers you showed are not making your point.11 tos is not good at all as a close compl% rating etc etc

again, my original reply is factual and valid

11 playoff t/os to daks 5

good dry kicking those fumbles under rug and try to direct from that fact...
 

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but it's not even a debate.
it is because here we are trying to say you can make sb with player like dak over big game mistakes, well Josh has 11 payoff TOS to daks 5, that enough to see hes no big game qb either if hes hurting his team in those moments,

Josh is 4-4
dak 2-4( same place as the heralded and great hof qb Pmanning after 97 games also with no championship game or SB YET)

still 4 loses each and JA has far more mistakes.
so they aren't as far apart as you might want to push that narrative,

truly its always been Mahomes first of late add in Rogers , old brees etc etc

but josh isn't on that level, so hes not elite, and truly not huge difference between Josh and Dak.

debate will always be there, saying no debate is hysterical,
 

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it is because here we are trying to say you can make sb with player like dak over big game mistakes, well Josh has 11 payoff TOS to daks 5, that enough to see hes no big game qb either if hes hurting his team in those moments,

Josh is 4-4
dak 2-4( same place as the heralded and great hof qb Pmanning after 97 games also with no championship game or SB YET)

still 4 loses each and JA has far more mistakes.
so they aren't as far apart as you might want to push that narrative,

truly its always been Mahomes first of late add in Rogers , old brees etc etc

but josh isn't on that level, so hes not elite, and truly not huge difference between Josh and Dak.

debate will always be there, saying no debate is hysterical,
A debate to you, but it falls on deaf ears of the masses. What did you do?... pulled some stats out your arse as predicted. Also, funny how Dakers love to compare him to younger players haha just like Jerry thinking he's only played 5 years.

But you have your opinion and I have mine, but a poll would be cool to see.
 

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A debate to you, but it falls on deaf ears of the masses. What did you do?... pulled some stats out your arse as predicted. Also, funny how Dakers love to compare him to younger players haha just like Jerry thinking he's only played 5 years.

But you have your opinion and I have mine, but a poll would be cool to see.
nope all facts, go away i said it its all true.. stats matter records matter, how joshers see it ok josh fan boy.. see we can all do that.
 

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Yes. They went to the AFC Championship game in 2020. Losing to Kansas City.
Okay. You "don't think" - my point is, you can interpret that any way you want. It's just silly to make a post about this. And I don't read this as him trying to get back here, I see it as Beasley simply arguing with some rando on Twitter and propping himself up that he made himself before going to Buffalo.

This is why I push for a Dak zone, posts like this. This is clear bait by someone with a Dak obsession.
May be
My point was I don’t think he meant that Dak was better than allen
I was joking about coming back here, thus the lol
 
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