Explain to me, stupid question

[sureletsrace]

Washington6-4 PF-181 PA-182 Dallas6-4 PF-230 PA-229


How are we still technically behind Washington? Isn't the deciding factor in W-L tie Points For?

 

[ajk23az]

Division record and conference record comes before points for I'm pretty sure.

So both the Skins and Boys are 2-2 in the division but Skins' are 5-3 compared to Dallas' 4-4 in the conference.

 

[sureletsrace]

We're both 2-2 in division, I guess they have 1 game up on us in conference maybe?

 

[jobberone]

We are behind them in conference games right now.


NFC East Team W L T Pct PF PA Net Pts TD Home Road Div Pct Conf Pct Non-Conf Streak Last 5
New York Giants 9 1 0 .900 292 170 122 32 6-0 3-1 3-0 1.000 6-0 1.000 3-1 5W 5-0
Washington Commanders 6 4 0 .600 181 182 -1 18 3-3 3-1 2-2 .500 5-3 .625 1-1 2L 2-3
Dallas Cowboys 6 4 0 .600 230 229 1 29 3-1 3-3 2-2 .500 4-4 .500 2-0 1W 2-3
Philadelphia Eagles 5 4 1 .550 264 193 71 28 3-2 2-2-1 0-3 .000 4-4 .500 1-0-1 1T 3-1

 

[sureletsrace]

Thanks for clearing that up for me =)

So we need to beat the Seahawks and they need to lose to whatever NFC team they have coming up =D

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

they beat Arizona and we didn't.

That is the difference so far, we both lost to the Giants and to the Rams (and to each other).

In the end, that Ram debacle could be our undoing. Had Romo played that game we would be 7-3, no ifs ands or buts about it.

 

[cowboys2233]

We are behind them in conference games right now.


NFC East Team W L T Pct PF PA Net Pts TD Home Road Div Pct Conf Pct Non-Conf Streak Last 5
New York Giants 9 1 0 .900 292 170 122 32 6-0 3-1 3-0 1.000 6-0 1.000 3-1 5W 5-0
Washington Commanders 6 4 0 .600 181 182 -1 18 3-3 3-1 2-2 .500 5-3 .625 1-1 2L 2-3
Dallas Cowboys 6 4 0 .600 230 229 1 29 3-1 3-3 2-2 .500 4-4 .500 2-0 1W 2-3
Philadelphia Eagles 5 4 1 .550 264 193 71 28 3-2 2-2-1 0-3 .000 4-4 .500 1-0-1 1T 3-1

I believe it goes like this...

W-L record
Head to head record
Divisional Record
Conference Record

...and then maybe the PF PA stuff.

It's kind of funny, ultimately if everything is exactly the same, it comes down to a coin toss. Could you imagine? Never going to happen though -- I think there is like five more determining factors before that would happen.

 

[Extreme]

I believe it goes like this...

W-L record
Head to head record
Divisional Record
Conference Record

...and then maybe the PF PA stuff.

It's kind of funny, ultimately if everything is exactly the same, it comes down to a coin toss. Could you imagine? Never going to happen though -- I think there is like five more determining factors before that would happen.

In 1992, Washington beat out Green Bay by a coin toss. Only time I know of it happening.

Points are the last factor before a coin flip. In other words, points mean nothing.

 

[cowboys2233]

In 1992, Washington beat out Green Bay by a coin toss. Only time I know of it happening.

Points are the last factor before a coin flip. In other words, points mean nothing.

Here is the full list for a tie-breaker between two teams...

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss

P.S. I don't believe you, Commanders fan. No way does this get past the strength of schedule category.

 

[Extreme]

Here is the full list for a tie-breaker between two teams...

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss

P.S. I don't believe you, Commanders fan. No way does this get past the strength of schedule category.

Believe it buddy. Rules number 5,6,7 and 8 were added after the salary cap. In other words, AFTER the season I mentioned.

Nice effort though, 2 points for trying.

 

[big dog cowboy]

So we need to beat the Seahawks and they need to lose to whatever NFC team they have coming up =D

Kind of. Really we just need to continue to win. That solves everything.

 

[kmd24]

Common opponents is the third tiebreaker after head-to-head and division record.

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

They are 4-3 and we are 3-3.

 

[JBS]

the reality is..both washington and dallas have 2 division games left...that is where this race is going to be determined..if we take care of our end and beat nyg and philly we will be ahead of washington...period.

 

[mrla]

the reality is..both washington and dallas have 2 division games left...that is where this race is going to be determined..if we take care of our end and beat nyg and philly we will be ahead of washington...period.

If they both have 2 div. games left and both win each one, doesn't that still leave us behind?

 

[Established1971]

In 1992, Washington beat out Green Bay by a coin toss. Only time I know of it happening.

Points are the last factor before a coin flip. In other words, points mean nothing.

No team has ever made the playoffs based on a coin flip, has never happened. You must be thinking of the following years draft, different rules to break different types of ties. The draft gets into interconference ties.

nice try, 2 points for effort

 

[Doomsday101]

Washington6-4 PF-181 PA-182 Dallas6-4 PF-230 PA-229


How are we still technically behind Washington? Isn't the deciding factor in W-L tie Points For?

They are ahead of us in the conference. Dallas and Washington are tied 2-2 within the division but they have the edge 5-3 to 4-4 in the conference