FA might be slim pickings at DL on top players.

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From rumors and reports that are being talked about it seems like most of the top FAs that would help the cowboys the most are going to be their teams top priorities.

Suh, DET has said he will be their top priority, but even then i dont think Dallas could compete with the numbers that are going to be thrown at him.

JPP, NYG have to keep him, because theyre defense is a mess right now. He is probably their lone bright spot. I think if they put the franchise tag to keep him and buy time on a new deal.

Grag Hardy, the NFL is really going into investigating his case, they already filed to get transcripts and apparently there are pictures of his GF that were not made public because the NFL requested those too. HE is going to be suspended.

Jerry Hughes, Rex Ryan has said Hughes is not going anywhere. And i dont think he wants to.

Brandon Graham, is looking for the area of 4yrs 30mil......wait foR it........And 20mil of that GUARANTEED!! Lol

Pernell McPhee, is going to be IMO one of the most saught after guys. He plays everywhere, for the ravens he plays DT, DE and OLB this past yr and got sacks at each of them posistions. While he would make alot of sense for Dallas, one of these 3-4 teams are going to jump on him, Watch out for N.O they need him bad.

The way things are looking Dallas best bet might be bringing back Spencer at the vet minimum or atleast at a low price. The DL player alot better when they went and played man defense in the secondary. That allowed for the DL to get to the QB. Thats the thing with todays NFL, if you can play good man defense you are going to get sacks. And Dallas did that the last 6 games of the yr(2 playoff games) where they got 15 sacks and 13 takeaways.

Im starting to think maybe the best way to go about this is the draft. Of course add a couple guys on lighter contracts like they have been doing. These guys have been contributing and Dallas has alot of young guys they like on the DL, Crawford, Lawrence, Bishop, Gardner, Whaley, Coleman. Gardner and Whaley IMO are going to be contributors this yr and are going to suprise alot of people. Bishop if he can force his way into the lineup he could be the rock they need. But it takes them putting in the work.

This draft is full of guys who can improve and keep this DL young,
 

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only in the nfl can charges against some1 be dropped yet he still gets punished.
but wait-thats the same organisation that punishes teams for excessive sending against the cap in an uncapped year lmao
 

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I would for us to grab A.cromartie(sp) i think he would be a decent(not to expensive) experienced vet who can step into our secondary and provide good depth

and insert any mid-level Dline player to play opposite of d-law....
 

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only in the nfl can charges against some1 be dropped yet he still gets punished.
but wait-thats the same organisation that punishes teams for excessive sending against the cap in an uncapped year lmao

Well there def is evidence to say Hardy hit her. Apparently there are pictures and there is testimony from somebody that was there. And it got dismissed because Hardy paid her off.
 

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I would for us to grab A.cromartie(sp) i think he would be a decent(not to expensive) experienced vet who can step into our secondary and provide good depth

and insert any mid-level Dline player to play opposite of d-law....

I think Dallas is good with the CBs they have. They all played good when they went to man defense. I like Spencer and Gardner and a Rookie like Odighizuwa to rotate at LDE
 

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Well there def is evidence to say Hardy hit her. Apparently there are pictures and there is testimony from somebody that was there. And it got dismissed because Hardy paid her off.

I mean to plays devil advocate, they have pics that show she was hit, and they have friend of hers that verifies it was hardy that hit her. But these things are not conclusive if a payoff is the end game.
 

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Well there def is evidence to say Hardy hit her. Apparently there are pictures and there is testimony from somebody that was there. And it got dismissed because Hardy paid her off.

i can post pics of me with a black eye
and my friends can say it was greg hardy that hit me
but was it really?
 

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I don't think the Cowboys have ever had any intention of signing a big name DL in free agency due the heafty price tag. They will sign what they consider solid players to reasonable deals. It's not a secret we need more than one addition on our defensive front. If we can get 3 players for the price of one I'll bet that is what we do.
 

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I don't think the Cowboys have ever had any intention of signing a big name DL in free agency due the heafty price tag. They will sign what they consider solid players to reasonable deals. It's not a secret we need more than one addition on our defensive front. If we can get 3 players for the price of one I'll bet that is what we do.

This is my thinking also. I don't believe Dallas had any intention of signing a big time FA because of the price tag it would cost. I believe Dallas under Garrett will be doing business differently. Some posters may need to get used to it.
 

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Vets will shake free during team cuts, they will have options. One big name won't be enough to turn things around.
 

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The Dallas brass has already stated their intentions to simply sign moderate-level veteran FAs. It's simply an effort to manage veteran FA costs and allow them to address the draft for the best talent, as opposed to looking to the positions of their most desperate needs. Drafting mainly out of need isn't any way to acquire winners.
 

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Still Jabaal Sheard, George Johnson and Adrian Clayborn after the guys you listed. And I don't believe the bidding for Graham and Mcphee will be out of our price range. Graham's agent can float that # out there all he wants, doesnt mean he's going to get it.

Basically, I think we come away with at least 1 upgrade at DE before the draft
 
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I'm all for signing a 2-4 FA's at lower costs over a big contract. However, if that one player can make a difference I'm for that too. But too many holes to fill for just one deal. Because we add more FA's then draft more and with all the others we have, there will be too much competition. If there is such a thing.
Unless those FA's aren't all on the DL. As well as the draft. Which I'm sure they all won't be.

But obviously much depends on our own guys they want and can resign first, and those who they believe can be replaced with FA's or the draft.
 

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From rumors and reports that are being talked about it seems like most of the top FAs that would help the cowboys the most are going to be their teams top priorities.

Suh, DET has said he will be their top priority, but even then i dont think Dallas could compete with the numbers that are going to be thrown at him.

JPP, NYG have to keep him, because theyre defense is a mess right now. He is probably their lone bright spot. I think if they put the franchise tag to keep him and buy time on a new deal.

Grag Hardy, the NFL is really going into investigating his case, they already filed to get transcripts and apparently there are pictures of his GF that were not made public because the NFL requested those too. HE is going to be suspended.

Jerry Hughes, Rex Ryan has said Hughes is not going anywhere. And i dont think he wants to.

Brandon Graham, is looking for the area of 4yrs 30mil......wait foR it........And 20mil of that GUARANTEED!! Lol

Pernell McPhee, is going to be IMO one of the most saught after guys. He plays everywhere, for the ravens he plays DT, DE and OLB this past yr and got sacks at each of them posistions. While he would make alot of sense for Dallas, one of these 3-4 teams are going to jump on him, Watch out for N.O they need him bad.

The way things are looking Dallas best bet might be bringing back Spencer at the vet minimum or atleast at a low price. The DL player alot better when they went and played man defense in the secondary. That allowed for the DL to get to the QB. Thats the thing with todays NFL, if you can play good man defense you are going to get sacks. And Dallas did that the last 6 games of the yr(2 playoff games) where they got 15 sacks and 13 takeaways.

Im starting to think maybe the best way to go about this is the draft. Of course add a couple guys on lighter contracts like they have been doing. These guys have been contributing and Dallas has alot of young guys they like on the DL, Crawford, Lawrence, Bishop, Gardner, Whaley, Coleman. Gardner and Whaley IMO are going to be contributors this yr and are going to suprise alot of people. Bishop if he can force his way into the lineup he could be the rock they need. But it takes them putting in the work.

This draft is full of guys who can improve and keep this DL young,

Many of those are just as likely to go in the opposite direction.

Suh: Detroit can say whatever they want. The reality is they screwed up and his contract is such that it would be 27M to franchise him. That's an impossible figure. He is known to want to play in a big market and probably for a team he considers a contender.

JPP: The Giants have let free agents go in the past that other teams wouldn't. They are known to play hardball in negotiations.

Hardy: He already missed 17 games. Much if any more than that would seem excessive considering that the charges were dropped. Still photos of a girl that was beaten don't prove who did the beating. It's not like the Ray Rice video.

Hughes: I'm not certain that he is that good. The other 3 on the DL were All-Pro.

Graham: It does not matter what he wants, he'll take what is offered. The excessive initial demand could cause him to end up with a lower contract than if he was reasonable. He seems like a guy that might sign a 1-year deal if he does not get the mega-contract that he is seeking. If he signs a 1-year deal, then his incentive will be to secure a starting job and he has indicated that he prefers the 4-3.

McPhee: He has not been a starter so similar to Graham, it's hard to imagine a non-starter breaking the bank. He might get a little overpaid, but he might be worth it. The risks seem low with him. He might not be elite, but he is highly likely to be a solid player.

Sheard: You didn't mention him but he is another non-starter that has some talent.

Derrick Morgan: Has been a solid 3-4 OLB, but has enough size to play DE in a 4-3. Could probably better his stats with a better team.
 

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If New Orleans wants McPhee, they have to do some serious restructuring of of their own players contracts. They are over the cap from what I read and the Cowboys are in better shape than the Saints are cap wise.
 

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IMO it won't matter who we get on the edge if we can't get consistent production out of the 1 tech spot.
 

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Well there def is evidence to say Hardy hit her. Apparently there are pictures and there is testimony from somebody that was there. And it got dismissed because Hardy paid her off.

There was no eye witness. They only heard commotions and loud noises. In fact, it was Hardy who called 911 and stated that she was hitting him.

Her charges against him was that he almost killed her, tossed her around like a rag doll and almost choked her to death. But there was not one scratch on her from this incident. The only scar that she had was when she kicked the door to Hardy's car as he tried to get away from her. Then she even followed her to his apartment where she said that was where Hardy abused her and almost killed her.

Her story smells fishy. Especially when she is well known for going after men with money. They broke up before this happened. So how, she came back to him when he had a big contract from the Panthers.

I honestly think he is innocent. Of course he might had paid her off - so what. It was the money she was after anyways. If Hardy was really guilty do you really think she would take that money and not show up for her court appearance? Lets get real. Hardy is innocent. She made the whole thing up so she would get paid to shutup.
 

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I don't think the Cowboys have ever had any intention of signing a big name DL in free agency due the heafty price tag. They will sign what they consider solid players to reasonable deals. It's not a secret we need more than one addition on our defensive front. If we can get 3 players for the price of one I'll bet that is what we do.


Yep. I believe Jerry basically said what you mentioned in a PC.

I think they'll look at guys like Jared Odrick, Jabaal Sheard, Stephen Paea, etc. Guys like Suh, JPP, etc. will be too expensive IF they hit the market. As someone already mentioned, McPhee will likely be sought after, and thus potentially be overpaid, perhaps at this point, due more to his versatility rather than his production and consistency. Like many others...his best year came in a contract year. But he can be a disruptive player when healthy/right. But he was also replaced as a starter at one point.

Perhaps Hughes would be a possibility IF he hits the market. He'll get paid, but certainly personnel men around the league recognize that while he brings something to the table, he was surrounded by fantastic talent. The Bills will be returning to the 3-4 under Ryan...and it's the exact same scheme Ryan protégé Mike Pettine ran in Buffalo...with Hughes being a part-time player in that scheme (he started only 1 game in 2013). Hughes is also a Texas kid and might not mind returning home to Texas & playing for the Boys. But while I think he has somewhat come into his own, I wouldn't overpay based solely on his production the past 2 seasons.

Also, the Cowboys will certainly give Lawrence every opportunity to continue to develop. They gave up #47 & #78 to move up to #34 to get him & Marinelli likes him quite a bit. He missed over half of he season setting him back...but began to show his potential in the playoffs.

Quite a bit of focus has been on the RDE spot, but I think Lawrence settles in there with Mincey providing quality rotational depth. The team obviously needs more than they got last season from the LDE position...the 1-tech spot...and will need a solid rotational player at 3-tech to team with Crawford.
 

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only in the nfl can charges against some1 be dropped yet he still gets punished.
but wait-thats the same organisation that punishes teams for excessive sending against the cap in an uncapped year lmao

While I agree it was one of those domestic violence case. NFL is going after players with such cases.
 

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From Rotoworld regarding Hughes:

The Bills' website expects free agent DE Jerry Hughes to command $10 million annually.
With the Chiefs expected to franchise Justin Houston, Hughes is in line for a massive contract as the top free-agent edge rusher available. The Bills want to keep Hughes, but re-signing him could be difficult with Buffalo already heavily invested in Mario Williams and Marcell Dareus in the final year of his deal. Bills.com's Chris Brown doesn't consider Hughes a realistic option for the franchise tag, which would pay him around $14.8 million. Feb 13 - 6:39 PM

Not sure he'd be viewed as the top edge rusher available with Hardy & possibly JPP also on the market. But Hardy's legal/league issues could complicate things for him. Perhaps they're considering 3-4 teams as well? While speculation...$10 million a year would very likely place him well outside of the Cowboys range.
 
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