Fact: We win over 75% of our games when DeMarco touch the ball at least 15 times.

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From the time we went down by two touchdowns to the time we tied the game up, we threw the ball 13 times and ran it 5 times.
about the time from when we were down 14 to the time we went up 28-21?
 

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Except Dunbar was the one who was actually explosive running the ball. That stat is meaningless.

Yes but the balanced attack comment in the OP is still valid. I always though establishing a running game sets up the passing game but maybe the reverse is true in our case.
 

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It's also worth noting that regardless of when the drives happened the offense looked significantly more potent and explosive, on both the ground and in the air, when the running game was involved.
 

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Dallas really does look like different team when Murray & Cowboys are running. They slow tempo down, look more confident and you can almost see other defense loose their will when dallas starts to control line.
 

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It's also worth noting that regardless of when the drives happened the offense looked significantly more potent and explosive, on both the ground and in the air, when the running game was involved.
If you say so. We had two three-and-outs with 2 runs and a pass. We had a 7-pass, one-run TD drive. We ran like crazy after we had the lead. And as someone said, in our two TD drives after we went down 21-7, we threw 13 times and ran 5 times (just rechecked those numbers). The one drive where the running game wasn't involved was a 2-run 7-pass drive that ended in a punt. But both runs were for negative yards and put us in positions where we needed to pass.

I think people see what they want to see.
 

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Just as a fan watching the Cowboys play, it looks to me like we have to be able to pass successfully to run. We are actually good enough to run successfully, but not in the "three yards and a cloud of dust" tradition, IMO. Just keep them spread out a bit, and Murry and Dunbar can find their way for good yardage. I think that is what Garrett is trying to do right now, getting the running game and the passing game to feed off of each other.
 

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If you say so. We had two three-and-outs with 2 runs and a pass. We had a 7-pass, one-run TD drive. We ran like crazy after we had the lead. And as someone said, in our two TD drives after we went down 21-7, we threw 13 times and ran 5 times (just rechecked those numbers). The one drive where the running game wasn't involved was a 2-run 7-pass drive that ended in a punt. But both runs were for negative yards and put us in positions where we needed to pass.

I think people see what they want to see.

Yes it is you that sees what you want to. From the time we were down 21-7 to the time WE TOOK THE LEAD, the play selection was 16 passes-13 runs. We didn't just start running crazy with the lead it was actually being used while trailing and/or tied. That's balance and stick-to-itness that we haven't displayed even with a lead most of the season.
 

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Actually, it was 16 passes and 5 rush attempts.

Actually from the time we went down 21-7 to the time we took our first lead the play selection was 16pass-13run. Why are we ignoring the drive that got us the lead while tied?
 

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Actually from the time we went down 21-7 to the time we took our first lead the play selection was 16pass-13run. Why are we ignoring the drive that got us the lead while tied?
I'm not ignoring it. You said "a balanced attack brought is back". But it wasn't. We abandoned the run in order to get back into the game. And when we tied it up we hit the breaks. On the drive to take the lead we managed to pick up big chunks of yards through a couple passes and a personal foul penalty. These allowed us to run the ball more than we otherwise would have.
 

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I'm not ignoring it. You said "a balanced attack brought is back". But it wasn't. We abandoned the run in order to get back into the game. And when we tied it up we hit the breaks. On the drive to take the lead we managed to pick up big chunks of yards through a couple passes and a personal foul penalty. These allowed us to run the ball more than we otherwise would have.

Outside of the drive that ended the first half (a 2-minute drive that I expect more passes 7-1), the play selection was 23 passes to 16 runs until we took the 28-21 lead.

Down 21-14, we had a 10 play (6 passes, 5 called runs with the TD pass being another improv throw on a called run, I won't complain) - 88-yard drive in which the run accounted for 61 yards. I can't stress enough that the TD was a run play that turned into a pass. This affects the play calling totals.

With the score tied, we had a 9 play (6 runs) - 60 yard scoring drive that resulted in a Rushing TD and produced half of the yards on the drive.

Thats two drives of 19 plays (11 called runs, 10 actual) for 148 yards with the run producing 91 of the total yards while trailing 21-14 coming out of the half before we took the lead and their will.

We abandoned the run only on the 2-minute drive before the first half ended which is expected as I stated. So, from my POV after trailing 21-7 we had 3 TD drives in which 2 were heavily influenced by the run and one that was supposed to be pass heavy due to time and situation.
 

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Fact: When we kneel down at least once, we win more times then not. So we should kneel down opening drive to ensure a win, right?

Fact: When Dez catches more than 2 TDs in a game, we lose more times then we win. I guess when he catches his 1st TD we should immediately bench him, we wouldn't want him getting another TD causing us to lose now would we?

Point is, that's a statistic that really doesn't mean much. Just because we win 75% when he gets those carries, doesn't mean we should give him that every game. It wouldn't increase our chances of winning at least, actually it would probably do the opposite and decrease them, especially if he's not being productive.

It's a misleading stat because when teams have the lead they typically run the ball more, resulting in more carries. And if you have the lead ... You win da game!
 

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We did run a balance attack when we were losing.

Our first possession after being down by 14 points(21-7) was at the 2 minute warning mark. We had to pass exclusively since we were running the 2 minute offense before the 1st half ended.

Our first possession in the 3rd quarter, still being down by 7points (21-14) , we ran 12 plays to tie the game. 7 passes and 5 runs.

That's pretty balanced to me.
 

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Fact: When we kneel down at least once, we win more times then not. So we should kneel down opening drive to ensure a win, right?

Fact: When Dez catches more than 2 TDs in a game, we lose more times then we win. I guess when he catches his 1st TD we should immediately bench him, we wouldn't want him getting another TD causing us to lose now would we?

Point is, that's a statistic that really doesn't mean much. Just because we win 75% when he gets those carries, doesn't mean we should give him that every game. It wouldn't increase our chances of winning at least, actually it would probably do the opposite and decrease them, especially if he's not being productive.

It's a misleading stat because when teams have the lead they typically run the ball more, resulting in more carries. And if you have the lead ... You win da game!

We have led in every game this season, every last one of them. And not one of those games outside of NO were we trailing by so much that we were FORCED to abandon the run. We even led vs NO with the run producing and it was given up on. If teams tend to run more when leading and we have led in every single game, why is the pass being called twice as much as the run?
 

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For all of those that bring up teams typically run more with the lead and the truth about your Dallas Cowboys in 2013.

Game 1: Led all game with 6 TOs and 23 runs on 74 called plays
Game 2: Had a lead til 2:53 in the 3rd and never trailed by more than 4 (not run abandonment worthy) with 16 runs (13 by RBs) on 61 called plays
Game 3: Easy W with 34 runs on 59 called plays
Game 4: 21-10 lead & didn't trail til 14:46 of 4th. Never trailed by more than 2 (not run abandonment worthy) til 7 min in 4th w/ 16 runs (15 by RBs) on 56 called plays
Game 5: 14-0 & 17-7 lead. With 17-7 lead threw INT to put opp in position to score. Why no runs with big lead? 14 runs (12 by RBs) on 54 called plays
Game 6: Never trailed and managed 19 runs on 50 called plays (Murray injured but still never trailed, why no more runs with lead?
Game 7: Never trailed and had 2 score lead heading into the 4th. 26 runs (21 by RBs) on 75 PLAYS!!! YES 75 PLAYS and never trailed!!
Game 8: Twice had 2 score lead in 4th and never trailed til 12 sec left in game. 26 runs (21 by RBs) on 56 plays. Even I will admit we didn't get it done this game while trying to run out the clock but we were playing with our 4th RB as the primary carrier.
Game 9: Led entire game til 5:40 in 4th and had 2 score lead midway thru 3rd. 9 runs (8 by RBs) on 63 called plays
Game 10: Not even going to mention how well the run game was producing before being abandoned and leading to a beat down. 16 runs on 43 plays
Game 11: Had lead til score tied 21-21 with 4:45 in 4th. Had 2 score lead in 3rd and a 8 point lead til it was tied. 20 runs (17 by RBs) on 62 plays
Game 12: Loved the gameplan. Didn't abandon run while trailing and kept running it with the lead or tie score.

This should put an end to the "most teams run more with a lead". Well at least that the Cowboys are one of them. If nothing else, this proves we tend to throw it more with a lead when it doesn't call for the run to be neglected.

Stop using this crutch. It doesn't apply to Dallas in 2013!
 

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W week 1 21ATT / 88YDS = 4.19YPC - *W/O LongRun 20ATT / 75YDS = 3.75YPC
L week 2 13ATT / 37YDS = 2.84YPC - *W/O LongRun 12ATT / 25YDS = 2.08YPC
W week 3 34ATT / 193YDS = 5.70YPC - *W/O LongRun 33ATT / 152YDS = 4.60YPC
L week 4 15ATT / 77YDS = 5.13YPC - *W/O LongRun 14ATT / 56YDS = 4.00YPC
L week 5 12ATT / 43YDS = 3.58YPC - *W/O LongRun 11ATT / 30YDS = 2.72YPC
W week 6 19ATT / 48YDS = 2.52YPC - *W/O LongRun 18ATT / 34YDS = 1.88YPC
W week 7 21ATT / 66YDS = 3.14YPC - *W/O LongRun 20ATT / 54YDS = 2.70YPC
L week 8 21ATT / 50YDS = 2.38YPC - *W/O LongRun 20ATT / 41YDS = 2.05YPC
W week 9 8ATT / 32YDS = 3.50YPC - *W/O LongRun 7ATT / 5YDS = 0.71YPC
L week 10 16ATT / 89YDS = 5.56YPC - *W/O LongRun 15ATT / 54YDS = 3.60YPC
W week 11 20ATT / 107YDS = 5.35YPC - *W/O LongRun 19ATT / 77YDS = 4.05YPC
W week 12 29ATT / 145YDS = 5.00YPC - *W/O LongRun 28ATT / 100YDS = 3.57YPC

This is WHY we don't run the ball more, it's because we're terribly inconsistent running the ball. We have such a PATHETIC running attack. So what's you're lame excuse now?
 
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