Falcons linebacker accused of killing very small dog

[thinwhiteduke]

SMH. Someone lost their family member, yes....dogs are family members, and nothing important happened??

Do us(me) a favor and just go away.......................

yes you can have a minor emotional bond with a pet but they aren't remotely a family member. You can get over pet grieving in 12 hours and go buy a new one. Didn't any of you have relatives who were farmers ? animals/beasts are just reliable domestic things or future food. I petted calves all the time I knew would be dinner one day

 

[EST_1986]

there isn't anything to see. Nothing important happened

Alright bud you win

 

[BoysFan4ever]

yes you can have a minor emotional bond with a pet but they aren't remotely a family member. You can get over pet grieving in 12 hours and go buy a new one. Didn't any of you have relatives who were farmers ? animals/beasts are just reliable domestic things or future food. I petted calves all the time I knew would be dinner one day

I have far more than a "minor emotional bond" with my pets.

Far more!

 

[basstapp]

easy decision for the falcons... BTW that is my Vet

 

[sacase]

so you have no problem if a guy did this every day- just take some money from him but let him keep doing it?

One time event vs a pattern of behavior is far different. I love pets and all of mine have been well cared for, but i think people who treat pets as people have mental health issues. They should be treated with kindness and be well kept and protected, but pets are not people. Like i said punishment but not jail for a first time offender. Definitely not loss of a career. Look at the emotional reaction by some people already.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Falcons cut linebacker/alleged dog-killer Prince Shembo

That didn’t take long.

Within hours of charges being filed accusing him of kicking and killing his then-girlfriend’s small dog, the Falcons have released linebacker Prince Shembo, according to Zach Klein of WSB. The Falcons have since announced the move themselves.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...t-linebackeralleged-dog-killer-prince-shembo/

Sign him up!

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

One time event vs a pattern of behavior is far different. I love pets and all of mine have been well cared for, but i think people who treat pets as people have mental health issues. They should be treated with kindness and be well kept and protected, but pets are not people. Like i said punishment but not jail for a first time offender. Definitely not loss of a career. Look at the emotional reaction by some people already.

Seems others have a different one.

 

[YosemiteSam]

One time event vs a pattern of behavior is far different. I love pets and all of mine have been well cared for, but i think people who treat pets as people have mental health issues. They should be treated with kindness and be well kept and protected, but pets are not people. Like i said punishment but not jail for a first time offender. Definitely not loss of a career. Look at the emotional reaction by some people already.

What's the difference between people and a dog? Is it just because the dog isn't self-aware? If a dog goes rabid and kills a person, what should happen? A slap on the paw or public execution?

IMO, if you inflict intentional pain or death on another sentient being for no real reason, they should be punished alike. Dogs certainly experience pain and thought which would make them sentient.

 

[maxdallasfan]

People who abuse/kill dogs should spend their life in prison. If I were President, they would get the needle because if they can do that, no telling what's in store for the future........

I have no compassion for anyone that treats animals like that, especially dogs!

If I were president, prisons would be empty.

 

[YosemiteSam]

If I were president, prisons would be empty.

Well, I wouldn't say empty. There would be no sentences over probably 5-7 years though. If they have done something that deserves 10 or more years, it's bad enough they are a menace to society now and in the future and besides; by that point they would become institutionalized after that much imprisonment. No using in freeing menaces that are institutionalized.

Off with their head!

 

[sacase]

People who abuse/kill dogs should spend their life in prison. If I were President, they would get the needle because if they can do that, no telling what's in store for the future........

I have no compassion for anyone that treats animals like that, especially dogs!

Let's examine this one further. So because a person kills a dog, they should be given the death penalty or life in prison. This is what is wrong with society extream over reactions to relatively small events. People want to feel like they are apart of the story and personalize everything. Its like they want to see who can say the most outrageous over the top idea. We had one poster who stated he would do physical harm and murder another human being over this. That is far more indicative of a mental health issue than Shembo. While I don't agree with abusing animals as I think it is wrong. I also don't agree with jail time for first time offenders. Fine him, give him community service, but let's not waste money and time with jail. There are far worse people out there than Shembo.

Are you aware that the profile of a murder is someone that starts with killing animals?
It happens too often to ignore.

No that is not true at all. You can say most serial killers have tortured small animals, but you cannot say most people who have tortured small animals are serial killers. Additionally, peer reviewed research has show this. Additionally, in one study, 28% of college students admitted to abusing small animals. Are you saying that 28% of college students have a murders profile? Let's get real here. I don't believe that there has been a link between murderers and killing/abusing small animals.

What's the difference between people and a dog? Is it just because the dog isn't self-aware? If a dog goes rabid and kills a person, what should happen? A slap on the paw or public execution?
IMO, if you inflict intentional pain on other sentient being for no real reason, they should be punished alike. Dogs certainly experience pain and thought which would make them sentient.

Do I really have to explain the difference between a dog/pet and a person? Last time I looked people were not a source of food in some places. Last time I looked we didn't force people to have sex so that we could sell their babies for profit. We didn't force specific people to breed with other people so that we could make the "bloodline better". WE don't execute our homeless. But please tell me how people and pets are the same. SMH

 

[YosemiteSam]

Do I really have to explain the difference between a dog/pet and a person? Last time I looked people were not a source of food in some places. Last time I looked we didn't force people to have sex so that we could sell their babies for profit. We didn't force specific people to breed with other people so that we could make the "bloodline better". WE don't execute our homeless. But please tell me how people and pets are the same. SMH

You know what the difference is between an "acceptable killing" and "murder" actually is? The reason I ask is because what you used to prove your point falls in the same category.

Can you define "morality"? If you say the "difference between right and wrong", you would be wrong as the answer to the above question is the exact same. There all opinions. Nothing more and nothing less.

Selling babies (dogs or not) is still slavery.

 

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

^ sacase {sigh}

Sorry you absolutely don't share the values many of us do. Some of us take life more seriously, and not just for the human race. You are in denial about cause-and-effect, and it's not just about cruelty.

So it's pretty obvious you can't be reasoned with

 

[thinwhiteduke]

I have far more than a "minor emotional bond" with my pets.

Far more!

which means you don't understand reality and are emotionally unstable.

 

[burmafrd]

which means you don't understand reality and are emotionally unstable.

the only unstable one in this thread sounds like you. You seem to be able to justify just about anything.

 

[burmafrd]

Let's examine this one further. So because a person kills a dog, they should be given the death penalty or life in prison. This is what is wrong with society extream over reactions to relatively small events. People want to feel like they are apart of the story and personalize everything. Its like they want to see who can say the most outrageous over the top idea. We had one poster who stated he would do physical harm and murder another human being over this. That is far more indicative of a mental health issue than Shembo. While I don't agree with abusing animals as I think it is wrong. I also don't agree with jail time for first time offenders. Fine him, give him community service, but let's not waste money and time with jail. There are far worse people out there than Shembo.


No that is not true at all. You can say most serial killers have tortured small animals, but you cannot say most people who have tortured small animals are serial killers. Additionally, peer reviewed research has show this. Additionally, in one study, 28% of college students admitted to abusing small animals. Are you saying that 28% of college students have a murders profile? Let's get real here. I don't believe that there has been a link between murderers and killing/abusing small animals.



Do I really have to explain the difference between a dog/pet and a person? Last time I looked people were not a source of food in some places. Last time I looked we didn't force people to have sex so that we could sell their babies for profit. We didn't force specific people to breed with other people so that we could make the "bloodline better". WE don't execute our homeless. But please tell me how people and pets are the same. SMH

you really are oblivious to the bonds between pets and their people. Sad for you. Now why don't you think about that 28% that admitted to abusing small animals. Those are some disturbed people but you think its nothing. Sounds like you need professional help.

 

[sacase]

^ sacase {sigh}

Sorry you absolutely don't share the values many of us do. Some of us take life more seriously, and not just for the human race. You are in denial about cause-and-effect, and it's not just about cruelty.

So it's pretty obvious you can't be reasoned with

I see i provide you with facts and peer reviewed research. You provide 'feelings', yet i am the one who can't be reasoned with. The cause and effect which you claimed is not there, but of course I am wrong. Lol

 

[YosemiteSam]

...and what point is it determined that someone is a psychopath.

What is Psychopathy?

Psychopathy is among the most difficult disorders to spot. The psychopath can appear normal, even charming. Underneath, they lack conscience and empathy, making them manipulative, volatile and often (but by no means always) criminal. They are an object of popular fascination and clinical anguish: psychopathy is largely impervious to treatment.​

Interesting. It doesn't say empathy towards only people or family members. It just says empathy. You figure they would make that distinction right? Well, unless "towards who" is irrelevant.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

which means you don't understand reality and are emotionally unstable.

oh please. You don't know me. I love my pets. They're important to me.

If that makes me emotionally unstable PROUD to be so.

Get a clue!

 

[sacase]

you really are oblivious to the bonds between pets and their people. Sad for you. Now why don't you think about that 28% that admitted to abusing small animals. Those are some disturbed people but you think its nothing. Sounds like you need professional help.

This is getting so halarious. So as a pet owner i don't understand the bonds between people and pets? I think pets are great. They serve a purpose. I have owned 4 hunting labs i loved them and was sad when they died, but i don't think if them as people. Not now not ever. Because of that i am the one that meeds mental help? Lol

Fact is 1 in 4 people have comitted animal cruality in here life.

Once again stop with the stawman arguments my position is clear. Animal crualty is wrong. But it should not be punushed with jail time for first time offenders.