Fans disconnected from front office thinking.

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Why is it that the fans seem to be the only ones placing a premium on a true 3-4 NT, and the Dallas personnel office doesn't take the opportunities that seem to be there?

A potential Haloti Ngata (not an exact replica, of course) drops to the 3rd, and the Cowboys do not flinch, they add a 3-4 DE.

What's missing here???
 
Fans are stupid. Ratliff is still productive and has a few more years left in him. Plus, they seems to love Brent.
 
nathanlt;4534944 said:
Why is it that the fans seem to be the only ones placing a premium on a true 3-4 NT, and the Dallas personnel office doesn't take the opportunities that seem to be there?

A potential Haloti Ngata (not an exact replica, of course) drops to the 3rd, and the Cowboys do not flinch, they add a 3-4 DE.

What's missing here???

Could it be that Rob Ryan knows more about his defense than any of us do?
 
nathanlt;4534944 said:
Why is it that the fans seem to be the only ones placing a premium on a true 3-4 NT, and the Dallas personnel office doesn't take the opportunities that seem to be there?

A potential Haloti Ngata (not an exact replica, of course) drops to the 3rd, and the Cowboys do not flinch, they add a 3-4 DE.

What's missing here???

truth is most of the "true" NT fans clamor for end up amounting to nothing.
 
They were looking for this years version of JJ Watt, the one that got away last year. (Yes, I was 100% behind Tyron Smith) Talking about what they are thinking.
 
nathanlt;4534944 said:
Why is it that the fans seem to be the only ones placing a premium on a true 3-4 NT, and the Dallas personnel office doesn't take the opportunities that seem to be there?

A potential Haloti Ngata (not an exact replica, of course) drops to the 3rd, and the Cowboys do not flinch, they add a 3-4 DE.

What's missing here???

Huh? I can only assume you are speaking about Ta'amu right? If so, Ngata and Ta'amu are completely different type of players.

Ta'amu can only play NT. Ngata is a far superior athlete and pass rusher, and can line up anywhere on DL.
 
Also Jerry said in Crawford presser they still like Geathers.
 
Wanting a NT does not make you stupid and it doesn't mean you think Ratliff sucks or is washed up. We need to collapse pockets, that has nothing to do with Ratliff's pro bowls. Whatever needs to be done, even if it means selecting Crawford, do it.
 
TheCount;4534994 said:
Wanting a NT does not make you stupid and it doesn't mean you think Ratliff sucks or is washed up. We need to collapse pockets, that has nothing to do with Ratliff's pro bowls. Whatever needs to be done, even if it means selecting Crawford, do it.

thinking a ngata clone is still around in r4 tho probably is.

i like alameda in r4 but he is a 1 or 2 down player; ngata is an every down guy who can play DE or NT. the only guy close to ngata is brockers which is why he went so high. these other guys dont have that athleticism. they are just big.

we have josh brent for big.
 
One of the things you're missing is Ngata has been a lifelong 3-4 DE. Terrence Cody is the Ravens nosetackle, and before that it was Kelly Gregg.
 
I'll break it down for you simply. Ratliff is a Pro Bowl nosetackle because he has incredible quickness and explosion off the ball, and is able to gain an advantage on slow footed guards and centers. People play guard and center because they're too slow to play tackle. Moving Ratliff out to DE makes him play against quicker footed DEs, which means you've just neutralized our best interior lineman and made him a JAG for the sake of plugging in a worthless fat tub of goo who also can't put any pressure on the QB. Congrats, you've somehow managed to make a bad pass rushing defensive line even worse. High five.
 
It should be pointed out that just because fans may be stupid, it doesn't mean the team isn't. The two concepts can exist at the same time.

We're the only 3-4 with a 300 lb NT. No, Dallas has it right. It's all them other teams that are doing it wrong.
 
theogt;4534997 said:
Dude, you totally quoted the least correct part of my post. :)

Comes from my job. As a manager I have to avoid calling the rank and file that work for me stupid. I'll just leave it at that.
 
Leadbelly;4535092 said:
We're the only 3-4 with a 300 lb NT. No, Dallas has it right. It's all them other teams that are doing it wrong.

Considering those other teams are electing our NT to the Pro Bowl, evidently they think we're doing it right.

I guess you believe you know more about what it takes to play in the 3-4 than Wade Phillips and Rob Ryan. I'm guessing it's nowhere close.
 
InmanRoshi;4535087 said:
I'll break it down for you simply. Ratliff is a Pro Bowl nosetackle because he has incredible quickness and explosion off the ball, and is able to gain an advantage on slow footed guards and centers. People play guard and center because they're too slow to play tackle. Moving Ratliff out to DE makes him play against quicker footed DEs, which means you've just neutralized our best interior lineman and made him a JAG for the sake of plugging in a worthless fat tub of goo who also can't put any pressure on the QB. Congrats, you've somehow managed to make a bad pass rushing defensive line even worse. High five.

Thank you thank you thank you, I was just arguing today at the barber shop about this very same subject. also I once again got caught up arguing with one idiot barber who blames Romo for every loss. Every loss we have is Romo's fault in his space head.
 
theogt;4534948 said:
Fans are stupid. Ratliff is still productive and has a few more years left in him. Plus, they seems to love Brent.

theogt;4534997 said:
Dude, you totally quoted the least correct part of my post. :)


I support this....
 

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