Fans have it backwards about Dan Quinn

[ChuckA1]

Wagner would have been a great FA pickup. I doubt the FO really even considered him due to his price. Pity

 

[plasticman]

Cowboys defensive starters average age is 24.8. I don't know if there is a younger starting defense in the league.

 

[blueblood70]

Not when drafting DT's

HUH im saying show me these franchise/ generational NT/1T that have come close to our #1 or #2 picks in recent drafts we passed on? not potential the one that were a lock and we passed on them on purpose...

I think Osi and Gallimore and others are solid DTs but mostly 3/5ts types so what we are missing in an in his prime DT , show me those we passed on , on purpose that was cant miss generational HOF type that fell to us or got close to our pick?

 

[ChuckA1]

HUH im saying show me these franchise/ generational NT/1T that have come close to our #1 or #2 picks in recent drafts we passed on? not potential the one that were a lock and we passed on them on purpose...

I think Osi and Gallimore and others are solid DTs but mostly 3/5ts types so what we are missing in an in his prime DT , show me those we passed on , on purpose that was cant miss generational HOF type that fell to us or got close to our pick?

I'm not sure why you're making such a big deal out of my comments, but OK, here's an example: How about drafting DJ Reader in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th... ? Or how about actually competing for him during FA? There are numerous other examples also. This FO just doesn't seem to value 1T's

 

[aikemirv]

Dan Quinn over- achieved relative to the talent on the roster early this season and most of last season.

The bad games on defense are due to the players playing at their actual talent level as a group. Quinn can't scheme away a lack of talent in all games.

Anthony Barr played over 90% of snaps in the Jax game...no other team wanted him at this point in his career. Barr can't outrun Jason Peters in a footrace.

Wilson is an average Safety that Quinn schemed to look like a very good Safety in some games. Same for Kearse.

DT Watkins is playing extensive snaps as the starting 1tech DT.

The 4th and 5th CBs are starting now and we don't know who is the 5th CB.

Quinn got 8 sacks from Armstrong...

Wilson is a better than average safety.

Armstrong got 8 sacks with raw power running over the OT. There was nothing scheme about it!

 

[xwalker]

Wilson is a better than average safety.

Armstrong got 8 sacks with raw power running over the OT. There was nothing scheme about it!

You guys crack me up..

 

[shabazz]

if Jerry was GM of the Eagles, Santa would be naked on the party bus.

…and they would have made him air-tight with a goodly amount of gusto and glee

 

[aikemirv]

You guys crack me up..

So honestly - which one? You did not see Armstrong manhandle OT's in the beginning of the year to the point the guy looked like he was enhanced over previous years or Donovan Wilson who has ALWAYS made plays since he has been on the field?

 

[Runwildboys]

The only thing backward is his hat. I remember fans crying about a player wearing his backward.

Simple minds can't tell which direction a person is facing when his hat is on backward, and it makes them angry that they were duped.

 

[shabazz]

I don’t know why the media always acts like our roster is so wonderful. .

half of the media is now ex players……always consider the sources

 

[shabazz]

Simple minds can't tell which direction a person is facing when his hat is on backward, and it makes them angry that they were duped.

The Sherlock Holmes double billed hat needs to come back to solve that issue

 

[Playmaker3128]

Every single drive Micah is not on the field this season the offense moves the ball…literally every single one. I’ve seen drives where Micah was getting rest…. Then comes in when the offense is at midfield and the drive stops.

Quinn to me is relying way to much on one player. Without micah defense looks lost. Quinn has failed to adjust in games as well

 

[buybuydandavis]

Dan Quinn over- achieved relative to the talent on the roster early this season and most of last season.

The bad games on defense are due to the players playing at their actual talent level as a group. Quinn can't scheme away a lack of talent in all games.

Anthony Barr played over 90% of snaps in the Jax game...no other team wanted him at this point in his career. Barr can't outrun Jason Peters in a footrace.

Wilson is an average Safety that Quinn schemed to look like a very good Safety in some games. Same for Kearse.

DT Watkins is playing extensive snaps as the starting 1tech DT.

The 4th and 5th CBs are starting now and we don't know who is the 5th CB.

Quinn got 8 sacks from Armstrong...

We lost a lot of key 2nd tier defensive players and the INTs are really hurting.

We're built to play from a lead, forcing teams into passing.

Failing that, we're very dependent for success on being able to use personnel packages. We have roles players for this or that, but not this and that. When teams can run or pass on a down, we're in trouble.

 

[blueblood70]

I'm not sure why you're making such a big deal out of my comments, but OK, here's an example: How about drafting DJ Reader in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th... ? Or how about actually competing for him during FA? There are numerous other examples also. This FO just doesn't seem to value 1T's

wow one name. Thats great,,carry on.

 

[Jarntt]

Dan Quinn over- achieved relative to the talent on the roster early this season and most of last season.

The bad games on defense are due to the players playing at their actual talent level as a group. Quinn can't scheme away a lack of talent in all games.

Anthony Barr played over 90% of snaps in the Jax game...no other team wanted him at this point in his career. Barr can't outrun Jason Peters in a footrace.

Wilson is an average Safety that Quinn schemed to look like a very good Safety in some games. Same for Kearse.

DT Watkins is playing extensive snaps as the starting 1tech DT.

The 4th and 5th CBs are starting now and we don't know who is the 5th CB.

Quinn got 8 sacks from Armstrong...

Totally disagree. This defense has looked absolutely over the top dominant in stretches and has one of the best players in the league. That doesn't happen just because you have a great scheme. Consistency can often be a sign of coaching. There is a lot of talent on this defense even though there are also some weak spots (like on most defenses). Our huge Achilles heel is our run D and Quinn shares some of the blame for that. He is strongly involved in defensive player acquisition and from a scheme perspective he continued to play 2 LBs week after week when it was clear our run defense was crap. He continued to play our lighter in the pants DTs on early downs. That's poor scheme at it's best. If Quinn stood on the table and demanded a hole plugging DT we would have had one before week 8 or whenever we traded for Hankins. That being said I'm a huge Quinn fan. I just disagree with trying to pretend he doesn't share in some of the blame or that he can't do better. And, yes, the CB injuries are going to leave a mark no matter who the DC is or whoever else we run out there on D. I'm no huge fan of either being anything other than NFL average but when you drop to #4 and #5 and especially when #5 seems a huge liability, the defense will struggle.

 

[john van brocklin]

if we look at the roster honestly, several areas remain lacking. Wr corp, Defensive tackles, secondary depth, etc..

The question to ask is, “ if the Eagles GM Howie Roseman was in charge of the Cowboys, would he stand pat with our current roster”?…………I think most of us know the answer

Could we only imagine having a young aggressive sharp competent GM?

 

[atlantacowboy]

Disagree. This is a very talented defense ........ when everyone is healthy. The drop-off at LB without LVE is precipitous and we don't have a DT who can clog the middle without Hankins. The CB situation is just a calamity of injuries. We have Kelvin Joseph starting and he shouldn't even be in the NFL. Lewis and Brown are at least NFL average CBs. Anthony Barr is not a run stopping LB and he never has been. He is kinda like Micah in that regard. His main value is in the pass rush. So when he has to fill in for a tackling machine like LVE, its not going to be good.

Sometimes, a defense is only as good as its weakest links and Dallas has too many of those on the field right now.

 

[ChuckA1]

wow one name. Thats great,,carry on.

You commented on my post stating the FO can't draft elite DT players where they draft from. I proved you wrong and there are many examples of elite players the passed on.

 

[blueblood70]

You commented on my post stating the FO can't draft elite DT players where they draft from. I proved you wrong and there are many examples of elite players the passed on.

because there aren't many that have been there, and we passed on them ..it happens. these lock elite DTs show me how many become available and are cant miss locks .. very few to say they haven't looked and decided another position or player was a better pick..the draft shows they know how to draft, lots of holes to fill every season and where you ick and who's available plays a large part in it.

 

[kskboys]

wow one name. Thats great,,carry on.

Javon Hargrave, Alim McNeil, Hankins, Grady Jarrett, John Peninsi, Dalvin Tomlinson, Derrick Brown

Those are off the top of my head. I can look up more if it makes you happy.