Far fetched ..but possible

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we have seen in the past situations where the QB goes down and the sub comes in and takes the team the rest of the way without missing a beat.. think Plunkett at Oakland, Cassel at NE, Garcia with the Eagles
Kitna has that quality but the team has to rally around this 'goal' and they don't seem to have that fire....... by some miracle we get to 5-6 or so with Kitna I would not be surprised to start seeing talk like this
 
malbis030347;3653985 said:
we have seen in the past situations where the QB goes down and the sub comes in and takes the team the rest of the way without missing a beat.. think Plunkett at Oakland, Cassel at NE, Garcia with the Eagles
Kitna has that quality but the team has to rally around this 'goal' and they don't seem to have that fire....... by some miracle we get to 5-6 or so with Kitna I would not be surprised to start seeing talk like this

If QB was the problem, or those that think Romo sucks, the only problem...then you might have a point in bringing up the remote possibility of it working.

However, that is not the case with this team.

Our defense was shredded. Our secondary has been pitiful as a group. I think this is the first time we have allowed multiple backs have 100+ Yard games in a season for a long time, our O-line is killing us, we make too many penalties and the coaching (either all or individuals depending on your view) needs changed and that does not even account for Jerry Jones.

So if it was just one guy who was out for the season and the backup came in and made things better...it could be a possibility. However again, it is not in this case.
 
The o-line is terrible. The defense can't stop anybody. We are 1-5 and just lost our QB who has made this line look better than it really is for years.

We still play at green bay, at indy, at ny, philly twice, new orleans, and a washington team that already beat us.

I see no hope in the near future, especially with a 38 year old quarterback at the helm behind the worst line in football
 
What Paint said, although Kitna did play better in the fourth quarter.

Defence has to be better. Face it, we weren't playing top 5 WRs out there and we couldn't stop them.
 
BrAinPaiNt;3653998 said:
If QB was the problem, or those that think Romo sucks, the only problem...then you might have a point in bringing up the remote possibility of it working.

However, that is not the case with this team.

Our defense was shredded. Our secondary has been pitiful as a group. I think this is the first time we have allowed multiple backs have 100+ Yard games in a season for a long time, our O-line is killing us, we make too many penalties and the coaching (either all or individuals depending on your view) needs changed and that does not even account for Jerry Jones.

So if it was just one guy who was out for the season and the backup came in and made things better...it could be a possibility. However again, it is not in this case.


...man, this defense is showing real signs of quitting on Phillips...they look tentative, unfocused and listless...the two games at GB and NYG will tell the tale...assuming they can take JAX at home (no guarantee), they could be 2-7 after the next three weeks...
 
malbis030347;3653985 said:
we have seen in the past situations where the QB goes down and the sub comes in and takes the team the rest of the way without missing a beat.. think Plunkett at Oakland, Cassel at NE, Garcia with the Eagles
Kitna has that quality but the team has to rally around this 'goal' and they don't seem to have that fire....... by some miracle we get to 5-6 or so with Kitna I would not be surprised to start seeing talk like this


Maybe it happens. Maybe the rest of the team steps it up a notch.

It seems so unlikely right now and maybe it is. So much of what we've seen would lead us to believe it won't.

But I do know this. IF it does happen. IF we do win more than we lose these next 6-7 weeks and keep from being eliminated from the post season.......

Hindsight, will give us the benefit of saying OF COURSE! That made sense. You get a team loaded with talent, yet still losing for lack of attention to the details.
Now you remove the star QB and everyone has no choice but to step it up. Play to their potential.

What seems so impossible, so improbable, will make sense if it happens.
 
With the talent still left in the offense, no reason why Kitna shouldn’t be successful. This offense should still be able to put up 20 points a game.
 
Everlastingxxx;3654093 said:
With the talent still left in the offense, no reason why Kitna shouldn’t be successful. This offense should still be able to put up 20 points a game.

Makes no difference if the defense gives up too many points.
 
What if the defense starts playing like it did last season?

If that happens and Kitna is at least serviceable (and Garrett stops pretending that second-and-10 is third-and-short), we will surprise some people and win some games.
 
BrAinPaiNt;3654103 said:
Makes no difference if the defense gives up too many points.

That’s true. But this defense does pretty good against offenses that are not familiar with their tendencies, ie Texans.

What i do like is Kitna seems to look to Bryant more.
 
AdamJT13;3654106 said:
What if the defense starts playing like it did last season?

If that happens and Kitna is at least serviceable (and Garrett stops pretending that second-and-10 is third-and-short), we will surprise some people and win some games.

And the O-Line starts actually pass and run blocking because Kitna is not as mobile?

I am a glass half full type of guy but there just seems to be too many obstacles to really think we will magically turn around the season. We had enough problems with the team before we had to start a backup...I don't think they will just disappear.

I hope they do...but just don't see it happening.

Now I am not saying we will not win another game. But I don't see us doing enough to make a difference post season wise.

Actually I think we win a few games and wind up in a lose/lose type of situation where we don't have a chance for a playoff scenario but at the same time wind up drafting somewhere in the middle of the pack instead of high picks in the rounds.
 
IFKitnagets us to 5-6 then sure there would be talk, but I doubt it will get to that. Kitna's arm isn't a question, and the problem with timing on some plays last week will likley get ironed out now that he is working with the first team, but the O-line is shakey, and Kitna is less moblie than Romo, and there have been other inconsistencies across the board. It's a nice thought about Kitna stepping up and the team rallying around him, but I think there are too many questin marks right now for that to carry us very far.
 
Everlastingxxx;3654110 said:
That’s true. But this defense does pretty good against offenses that are not familiar with their tendencies, ie Texans.

What i do like is Kitna seems to look to Bryant more.

I wonder if Marty B actually starts becoming a target of Kitna.

It seemed like those two had a good thing going in the preseason games.
 
BrAinPaiNt;3654117 said:
I wonder if Marty B actually starts becoming a target of Kitna.

It seemed like those two had a good thing going in the preseason games.

It was probably more just a function of the personnel Kitna was playing with in preseason. Witten likely was playing much less after Romo cam out than he did when Romo was in, so that left Bennett as the available TE for Kitna to throw to.
 
BrAinPaiNt;3654117 said:
I wonder if Marty B actually starts becoming a target of Kitna.

It seemed like those two had a good thing going in the preseason games.

Good point.

It's always interesting to see how the game changes when a new QB comes in. Sometimes guys who barely got a look before start getting lots of passes with a different quarterback.
 
BrAinPaiNt;3654117 said:
I wonder if Marty B actually starts becoming a target of Kitna.

It seemed like those two had a good thing going in the preseason games.

Yea and he also seems to have a connection with Hurd. I think Austins numbers are going to decline. Passes to the running backs will also increase.
 
BrAinPaiNt;3654114 said:
And the O-Line starts actually pass and run blocking because Kitna is not as mobile?

I am a glass half full type of guy but there just seems to be too many obstacles to really think we will magically turn around the season. We had enough problems with the team before we had to start a backup...I don't think they will just disappear.

I hope they do...but just don't see it happening.

Now I am not saying we will not win another game. But I don't see us doing enough to make a difference post season wise.

Actually I think we win a few games and wind up in a lose/lose type of situation where we don't have a chance for a playoff scenario but at the same time wind up drafting somewhere in the middle of the pack instead of high picks in the rounds.

...a team without a leader and without hope won't last long...Kitna will likely struggle behind the o-line and each loss will bring a deepening sense of despair and indifference...i expect them to be 2-7 after New York, on the way to either 5-11 or 6-10 if the defense does'nt pack it in...
 
I fear that McGee may get some unanticipated playing time if the O-line protects Kitna the same way it was protecting Romo. They had some games where they didn't formally give up a sack, but Tony still got rocked or managed to escape heavy pressure. I doubt that Kitna's 38-yr-old bones will prove as durable or elusive.
 
BrAinPaiNt;3654114 said:
And the O-Line starts actually pass and run blocking because Kitna is not as mobile?

Our offensive line problems are overblown -- unless, perhaps, we have to resort to starting Phil Costa and/or Alex Barron.

Kitna threw 33 passes against one of the best pass-rushing teams in the league that KNEW we had to pass, and he was sacked only three times, with one of those actually being a 0-yard scramble.

Look around the league. There are many teams that are far worse at pass protection and run blocking. We have some issues, but the line is not nearly as bad as some people think.
 
malbis030347;3653985 said:
we have seen in the past situations where the QB goes down and the sub comes in and takes the team the rest of the way without missing a beat.. think Plunkett at Oakland, Cassel at NE, Garcia with the Eagles
Kitna has that quality but the team has to rally around this 'goal' and they don't seem to have that fire....... by some miracle we get to 5-6 or so with Kitna I would not be surprised to start seeing talk like this


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