Fatal Flaws: The OceanGate Story | Full Documentary (2024)

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Look at those trying to climb Everest; or those doing other extremely dangerous things. Adrenaline junkies.
But I got to admit I would NEVER have the nerve to go down in the depths of the ocean
 

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The fatal flaw was the shape, anything other than a sphere will fail, sooner than later. I still can’t believe that people went that deep in it willfully :facepalm:
I think the untested materials (carbon fiber) played a huge role too. Once carbon fiber is compromised it will typically shatter, especially under those conditions. Most people utilize carbon fiber for its strength to weight ratio. I don’t know what advantage that would be underwater though.
 

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I think the untested materials (carbon fiber) played a huge role too. Once carbon fiber is compromised it will typically shatter, especially under those conditions. Most people utilize carbon fiber for its strength to weight ratio. I don’t know what advantage that would be underwater though.
Yea, carbon fiber was another serious flaw. Even if they didn’t use it, the shape(submersible) still would have imploded eventually. There needs to be equal pressure all around and only a sphere can accomplish that.
 

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Yea, carbon fiber was another serious flaw. Even if they didn’t use it, the shape(submersible) still would have imploded eventually. There needs to be equal pressure all around and only a sphere can accomplish that.
Submarines aren’t sphericle.
 

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Submarines don’t go down thousands of feet either :facepalm:

Their crush depth is usually around 7-8 hundred meters.
Ballistic missle submarines regularly go down to 1,600 feet although their max depth is classified. Submarines do not need to be shaped like a baseball :facepalm:
 

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The pressure at 2000 feet vs 36000 feet is a tremendous difference. Completely different design criteria. Even for those that only go down to say Titanic depth
 

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Ballistic missle submarines regularly go down to 1,600 feet although their max depth is classified. Submarines do not need to be shaped like a baseball :facepalm:
Are you just trying to argue? Why even bring up subs? We are talking about this submersible going to depths of 16K+. I assure you there isn’t a submarine out there can even go a third of that depth without imploding. I think(hope) you know this but just want start another argument, stop being so negative!
 

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Are you just trying to argue? Why even bring up subs? We are talking about this submersible going to depths of 16K+. I assure you there isn’t a submarine out there can even go a third of that depth without imploding. I think(hope) you know this but just want start another argument, stop being so negative!
I’ve seen some crazy stuff in my time.
 

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Morale of the story: Quality and safety control on anything going to the bottom of the ocean may be a wee bit important.
 

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Yea, carbon fiber was another serious flaw. Even if they didn’t use it, the shape(submersible) still would have imploded eventually. There needs to be equal pressure all around and only a sphere can accomplish that.
I agree, a sphere is the optimum shape for a vehicle under that kind of pressure, but you can compensate for the shape with design. The designers trying to make more room in the vehicle for passengers thought they had solved the problem with a stronger hull. They were wrong. Perhaps they could have added another bulkhead or two for added strength? But it seems to me if the carbon fiber was the issue, I don't know that bulkheads would have helped if the hull material was flawed.
 

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I agree, a sphere is the optimum shape for a vehicle under that kind of pressure, but you can compensate for the shape with design. The designers trying to make more room in the vehicle for passengers thought they had solved the problem with a stronger hull. They were wrong. Perhaps they could have added another bulkhead or two for added strength? But it seems to me if the carbon fiber was the issue, I don't know that bulkheads would have helped if the hull material was flawed.
but but but
the computer simulation said it would be fine!
 

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Soon as I learned they used XBox controller, to drive that thing.

I would have been, "Im out". ..such, such, tragedy.
 

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Soon as I learned they used XBox controller, to drive that thing.

I would have been, "Im out". ..such, such, tragedy.
I have to question the entire theory and idea behind it
Now saying you can go see the Titanic or something like that and it will cost you say $100,000 or whatever you need to make a profit.
BUT no one with a brain should be thinking of doing ANYTHING on the cheap here.
OR going experimental
IT looks like that was the major reason this happened
 

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I have to question the entire theory and idea behind it
Now saying you can go see the Titanic or something like that and it will cost you say $100,000 or whatever you need to make a profit.
BUT no one with a brain should be thinking of doing ANYTHING on the cheap here.
OR going experimental
IT looks like that was the major reason this happened
..yep, even though I love to see the Titanic wreckage.

It would have to be state of art sub. And even with that, I'd still be reluctant to go. ..lol...
 
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