Fehoko: Special Teams Ace, Secret Weapon?

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he needs to be a special teams ace and work his way into the rotation on some packages. he has the size and speed, but based on his pre-draft analysis his route running is a work in progress, so right now he maybe just a deep threat. if they can work him into the slot on few plays, with his size and speed he could do some damage. he is a bit of a long strider, so route running, might always be a challenge for him
ST is what’s gonna get him on the game day roster so he has a shot at reps
Otherwise he won’t be active and can’t get reps. If you aren’t a starter you better be able to contribute on ST
 

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If I have a pet cat that's currently on the Dallas Cowboys, it's Semi Fehoko.

I'm totally Smitten.

I feel like he can turn into a dark horse type of player, and really just blow up out of nowhere, much like Miles Austin's career. However, I feel like Semi may be able to get to that level faster.

The question is, with our roster being so deep at wide receiver, will he ever get the chance to prove himself?

I understand the dilemma. Still, Fehoko has enough of the kind of talent that NFL teams covet, you could never hide him on your practice squad.

If he gets cut here, chances are, another team will pick him up.

But if I'm the Cowboys, I make him my kick off and punt returner.

And I find a way to get him involved in our offense.

I can't remember who. But someone the other day said, he could be like a poor man's Deebo Samuel. And he does have similar athleticism. So, it's not entirely unthinkable.

That said, it's also possible that he really shows up to camp a new player after a year to digest it all.. And maybe he earns a spot as the #4, 5 guy, as the depth chart would have it.

If he can't win the 4th or 5th position, then you keep him anyway, and make him your special teams return man.

Thoughts?
We are so short at WR that this would be a great opportunity for him to shine!
 

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By the way, many kick returners and punt returners weren't kick or punt returners in college.

That's not something you really need a lot of experience at.

You just have to be able to catch on, and you usually either work or you don't. But it doesn't take a long time to develop ST return skills. And that's how he can make this team.

Maybe he doesn't want to be on the Cowboys. He could get more opportunities elsewhere, so maybe he lacks out this camp.
 

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Talk of moving Feheko to TE, should kill any real talk of him being a Wilson replacement or key WR role.

From all indications, he's too much of a straight-liner who is not fluid enough.
That means everything he does is too stiff and telegraphs.
Slow in/out of breaks, not selling his double moves, not getting a clean release off line, not enuff separation.

That's too easy a target to cover. Methinks that the club thought if they worked with him on routes and agility drills he could
show some signs of improving and can further factor at WR,..

He's one i'm interested to see what position and role he comes in at vet minicamp.
What is he ? WR or TE ? Sounds like he is purely a Rico Gather type project .
 

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I remember arguing with a fan who said Noah Brown was the steal of the draft. He put me on ignore I laughed so hard. :laugh:
 

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Meh, football, especially at WR, isn't a game of height.

I'm talking about the similarities in how hard they both are to take down, and to defend in general, because they are just guys who are dangerous weapons when the ball is in their hands.

I'm not always comparing players' physical measurements when I'm analyzing how I may use player X vs. player Y. I think we often get carried away with that.

I appreciate what you're trying to say. It's just that, I'm talking about style of play, and whether they're short or tall doesn't really impact the meat of the point I'm actually trying to get at here.

Fehoko could be a big, thick, hard-to-tackle WR that uses change of speed and being steady on his feet, like T.O., or like Samuel. For a guy who's 6'3'', he runs a lot like a running back. Has great burst, shiftiness of speed. He needs to make it more instinctual, though.

I'm not saying he's either one of those guys, or that he's physically similar. I'm saying he can be that style/type of player.

Dude, has great speed, size, quickness, strength.

Higher RAS than Terrell Owens..But, again, I'm not comparing RAS scores.. Just talking about what type of player Fehoko has the capability of becoming if the mental part ever clicks.

I hate projects, but he's the kind of player I'd more willing to take a chance on.

He tests very impressive on paper and in shorts and workouts, ..but it's another thing to translate that size, str8 line speed and strength onto the playing field.
He has to play up to that great physical measurements. And hes showing too many defiencies and defects in his game that are neutralizing those great
measurement tools.

Many upon many draftees may have an higher grade than Terrell Owens, a higher workout process than Owens, but it was a entire different story
when it came to placing those great physical tools to the playing field.

It's one thing to be a great athlete (ala Alexander Wright) .. vs being a great player. (ala Terrell Owens)
 

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I don't see him as much of a WR, and I don't think they did either. He's not the replacement for Wilson. He was told to gain weight in the offseason to be a TE. His upside is a bigger, stronger, faster Noah Brown. Athletic body for special teams. That's ok return on a 5th round pick, but that's still his yet to be seen upside.

no he's not the Wilson replacement, ..high doubt the club ever thought he was during the season.

That's why we brought in James Washington as an UFA ..and drafted Jalen Tolbert but i have concerns
that we'll need that 5th WR in the mix with all the unseen injuries.

That's why i have a watch for Brandon Smith or even TJ Vashar as a possible surprise this summer.
 

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If I have a pet cat that's currently on the Dallas Cowboys, it's Semi Fehoko.

I'm totally Smitten.

I feel like he can turn into a dark horse type of player, and really just blow up out of nowhere, much like Miles Austin's career. However, I feel like Semi may be able to get to that level faster.

The question is, with our roster being so deep at wide receiver, will he ever get the chance to prove himself?

I understand the dilemma. Still, Fehoko has enough of the kind of talent that NFL teams covet, you could never hide him on your practice squad.

If he gets cut here, chances are, another team will pick him up.

But if I'm the Cowboys, I make him my kick off and punt returner.

And I find a way to get him involved in our offense.

I can't remember who. But someone the other day said, he could be like a poor man's Deebo Samuel. And he does have similar athleticism. So, it's not entirely unthinkable.

That said, it's also possible that he really shows up to camp a new player after a year to digest it all.. And maybe he earns a spot as the #4, 5 guy, as the depth chart would have it.

If he can't win the 4th or 5th position, then you keep him anyway, and make him your special teams return man.

Thoughts?

Don't get too attached to your pet cat.....he may wind up on PS at best.... i see some UDFA competing for his job.
 

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Don't get too attached to your pet cat.....he may wind up on PS at best.... i see some UDFA competing for his job.

Right. I like a lot of those guys, myself. Pretty much all of them have some kind of intriguing aspect about their game.


He tests very impressive on paper and in shorts and workouts, ..but it's another thing to translate that size, str8 line speed and strength onto the playing field.
He has to play up to that great physical measurements. And hes showing too many defiencies and defects in his game that are neutralizing those great
measurement tools.

Many upon many draftees may have an higher grade than Terrell Owens, a higher workout process than Owens, but it was a entire different story
when it came to placing those great physical tools to the playing field.

It's one thing to be a great athlete (ala Alexander Wright) .. vs being a great player. (ala Terrell Owens)

This is all true. I"m not saying he has it all together. I"m saying he's the kind of guy I'm willing to sacrifice some growing pains for because of his upside potential.

At that same time, I realize that's all it is at this point: locked up potential until someone brings it out of him at the right time.
 
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If I have a pet cat that's currently on the Dallas Cowboys, it's Semi Fehoko.

I'm totally Smitten.

I feel like he can turn into a dark horse type of player, and really just blow up out of nowhere, much like Miles Austin's career. However, I feel like Semi may be able to get to that level faster.

The question is, with our roster being so deep at wide receiver, will he ever get the chance to prove himself?

I understand the dilemma. Still, Fehoko has enough of the kind of talent that NFL teams covet, you could never hide him on your practice squad.

If he gets cut here, chances are, another team will pick him up.

But if I'm the Cowboys, I make him my kick off and punt returner.

And I find a way to get him involved in our offense.

I can't remember who. But someone the other day said, he could be like a poor man's Deebo Samuel. And he does have similar athleticism. So, it's not entirely unthinkable.

That said, it's also possible that he really shows up to camp a new player after a year to digest it all.. And maybe he earns a spot as the #4, 5 guy, as the depth chart would have it.

If he can't win the 4th or 5th position, then you keep him anyway, and make him your special teams return man.

Thoughts?

Sorry, but stop it....the only reason he is still around is because of the drafting ego's of Booger and Chuckles. He was a terrible pick, and has shown nothing.
 

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That's pretty hilarious.

-----I remember arguing with a fan who said Noah Brown was the steal of the draft. He put me on ignore I laughed so hard

You sure that you didn't hear him wrong, and he actually said that Noah Brown had been stealing money???
 

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If I have a pet cat that's currently on the Dallas Cowboys, it's Semi Fehoko.

I'm totally Smitten.

I feel like he can turn into a dark horse type of player, and really just blow up out of nowhere, much like Miles Austin's career. However, I feel like Semi may be able to get to that level faster.

The question is, with our roster being so deep at wide receiver, will he ever get the chance to prove himself?

I understand the dilemma. Still, Fehoko has enough of the kind of talent that NFL teams covet, you could never hide him on your practice squad.

If he gets cut here, chances are, another team will pick him up.

But if I'm the Cowboys, I make him my kick off and punt returner.

And I find a way to get him involved in our offense.

I can't remember who. But someone the other day said, he could be like a poor man's Deebo Samuel. And he does have similar athleticism. So, it's not entirely unthinkable.

That said, it's also possible that he really shows up to camp a new player after a year to digest it all.. And maybe he earns a spot as the #4, 5 guy, as the depth chart would have it.

If he can't win the 4th or 5th position, then you keep him anyway, and make him your special teams return man.

Thoughts?
Fehoko has a golden opportunity now to make an impression considering the current state at WR, and imagine he has been running as the WR2 in camps.
He will get his fair share of reps early on.
 

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By the way, many kick returners and punt returners weren't kick or punt returners in college.

That's not something you really need a lot of experience at.

You just have to be able to catch on, and you usually either work or you don't. But it doesn't take a long time to develop ST return skills. And that's how he can make this team.

Maybe he doesn't want to be on the Cowboys. He could get more opportunities elsewhere, so maybe he lacks out this camp.

The vast majority of them at least returned a few in college.

Also, how many 6-4 returners have there been in the NFL?

Cordarrelle Patterson and Cedrick seem taller than most and they're 6-2.

It's great if SF could do it, but it seems unlikely.
 

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The vast majority of them at least returned a few in college.

Also, how many 6-4 returners have there been in the NFL?

Cordarrelle Patterson and Cedrick seem taller than most and they're 6-2.

It's great if SF could do it, but it seems unlikely.

It's not as many as you would think.

Usually, the guys who are the most likely to make it to the NFL are also the guys they most want to protect from injuries. So they'll allow a player with lessor talent get his shot by playing special teams while the more talented special teamer is spared from special teams because they don't want to risk losing what he brings to the side of the ball on which he plays.

Special teams.

Fringe players should learn to like it.

It's a great place for them to focus their attention, and depending on how they do, the choice to focus or special teams, or not, can make or break their careers.

Fehoko should be doing something to make his feet quicker.

Really, so much of it is in his mindset. And I just have a feeling he can be the kind of guy who gets it.

I sense we'll release him. He'll go to another team and blow it up there.

Just the feeling I get with this player.

Something tells me he's secretly unhappy to be here, and already sees the writing on the wall: that his future is brighter elsewhere.
 
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It's not as many as you would think.

Usually, the guys who are the most likely to make it to the NFL are also the guys they most want to protect from injuries. So they'll allow a player with lessor talent get his shot by playing special teams while the more talented special teamer is spared from special teams because they don't want to risk losing what he brings to the side of the ball on which he plays.

Special teams.

Fringe players should learn to like it.

It's a great place for them to focus their attention, and depending on how they do, the choice to focus or special teams, or not, can make or break their careers.

No, it’s not as many you as you’ve made up midge.

Go ahead, name some.
 

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Ha ha, I have to admit to liking me some Dave Megget back in the day, hated having to cover him on special teams, but that was a dangerous return specialist that you had to respect.
Someone on this roster is going to carve out a return role, but it wont be our 6-4 dude.
 

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Ha ha, I have to admit to liking me some Dave Megget back in the day, hated having to cover him on special teams, but that was a dangerous return specialist that you had to respect.
Someone on this roster is going to carve out a return role, but it wont be our 6-4 dude.

If someone hasn't been in the position off trying to cover...there's nothing to compare to a returner being angled towards and in a blink of an eye he's 10 yards around and on the other side of you. No, and that isn't from being a souped up rock.:)
 
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