Fellow Garrett detractors: Let's talk

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Now, let me begin by saying one game means little in the grand scheme of things.

However, you HAVE to give this guy props for preparing a football team to play with heart, passion, and personal accountability. Even if it is for one week.

Can he keep it rolling? I don't know. What I DO know is that is the best effort I have seen given by this football team all season. The only thing that's changed is the Head Coach. Congrats Coach Garrett. Keep it up like that and I won't have any choice but to support keeping you around after the season. I've said it before on this board and I'll say it again: I'm a show me guy. Show me and I'll believe. Garrett's off to a great start!

P.S. sorry for the Garrett misspell in the title. Oops.
 
Not a fan of Garrett. But whoever that red-headed guy was with the headset did a pretty good job. Nice new offensive philosophy and the defense actually made some really big plays. Wonder who he was?
 
Yeah I didn't like Garrett the offensive coordinator all that much.

But of his 8 tests, he's passed the first one. I'm rooting for him to be the coach we need...I would really rather win without a Pittsburgh Steeler on our sideline.
 
I'm willing to let it all play out. I'm still not convinced he's the answer for the Cowboys, but today certainly helped his cause.

There's seven more games left. If we get this type of effort from the team throughout, I'll be perfectly content with Garrett removing the Interim label.
 
skinsscalper;3697318 said:
The only thing that's changed is the Head Coach. Congrats Coach Garrett.

No, offensive play-calling clearly changed. Dallas was running shotgun upto 70 percent prior to this past game and the majority of their snaps came from it. Dallas rarely employed shot-gun and the OL could actually attack the DL straight up.... I would guess they were probably around 30 percent in shotgun this game, but the actual numbers may be different.. This is a serious statistical difference if it is correct... They also ran the ball from this formation alot, and some nice play action. The run forced Giants into man coverage to give us shots downfield... Kitna had a lot of time...

The sad thing is, the defense was calling for it for 2 weeks prior to this game and Wade has been calling for it... When he's gone, the offense does exactly that...
 
skinsscalper;3697318 said:
Now, let me begin by saying one game means little in the grand scheme of things.


Its ironic, Garrett is the "grand scheme of things"
 
I couldn't have predicted this one. I expected the Giants to win and I was just hoping the the 'boys played like they had some life. Kudos to Garrett for coming through in a nearly mpossible situation.

I think we also have to give the GM some credit as well. I think this game reaffirms what most people thought about the talent level on this team. I think you have to give Jerry props for being a part of that although he does deserve criticism in other areas.

I hope Garrett works out for the long run because I think that would give the Cowboys the best chance for returning to the Superbowl during Romo's career. But as the Tuna says, "Let's not put him in Canton just yet."
 
DragonCowboy;3697346 said:
Yeah I didn't like Garrett the offensive coordinator all that much.

But of his 8 tests, he's passed the first one. I'm rooting for him to be the coach we need...I would really rather win without a Pittsburgh Steeler on our sideline.
I would like nothing more then to follow the Steelers model of finding a long-term head coach. Hopefully Jason Garrett becomes the next Mike Tomlin.
 
khiladi;3697357 said:
No, offensive play-calling clearly changed. Dallas was running shotgun upto 70 percent prior to this past game and the majority of their snaps came from it. Dallas rarely employed shot-gun and the OL could actually attack the DL straight up.... I would guess they were probably around 30 percent in shotgun this game, but the actual numbers may be different.. This is a seriously different statistic if it is correct...

They also ran the ball from this formation alot, and some nice play action. The run forced Giants into man coverage to give us shots downfield... Kitna had a lot of time...

If you'll notice though, bro, the O-line was actually firing off the ball on running plays and giving their backs some lanes. I think this is a direct reflection of the tempo, pace, and attitude at practice.

They didn't feel they HAD to line up in shotgun for 79% of the plays. This was a completely differently prepared team. Make no mistake about it.
 
khiladi;3697357 said:
No, offensive play-calling clearly changed. Dallas was running shotgun upto 70 percent prior to this past game and the majority of their snaps came from it. Dallas rarely employed shot-gun and the OL could actually attack the DL straight up.... I would guess they were probably around 30 percent in shotgun this game, but the actual numbers may be different.. This is a serious statistical difference if it is correct... They also ran the ball from this formation alot, and some nice play action. The run forced Giants into man coverage to give us shots downfield... Kitna had a lot of time...

The sad thing is, the defense was calling for it for 2 weeks prior to this game and Wade has been calling for it... When he's gone, the offense does exactly that...

What's your point?

I along with many others have said all along Garrett would be a better head coach than coordinator.

You disagreed with that as well as everything else Garrett related.
 
skinsscalper;3697374 said:
If you'll notice though, bro, the O-line was actually firing off the ball on running plays and giving their backs some lanes. I think this is a direct reflection of the tempo, pace, and attitude at practice.

They didn't feel they HAD to line up in shotgun for 79% of the plays. This was a completely differently prepared team. Make no mistake about it.

When your in shotgun, you can't fire off the ball. Your playing backwards. Dallas from the start abandoned shotgun, even in passing situations. Dallas opened up the ball under center, and continued to all day long, continuously and maintained this the whole way through. The idea that it had to do with the OL firing off the ball because of some change in practice is absurd in my opinion. They just did what they were suppose to be doing from the very beginning. Plus, we all know Garrett had total control over the offense. Most of the changes in practice were actually implemented by Garrett on the defense, because the offense use to run between drills when Wade was here.

It is ironic, because Bum Phillips was interviewed this summer I believ and he pointed this exact thing out. The OL needs to be firing off the line, because that is how they are built. I hardly believe Wade held a different opinion.

Posters on here have continuously pointed it out, including Chocolate Lab and I believe, theogt. I've held a similar view...
 
I think we have to take it one game at a time, he really has no pressure, the season can be considered lost, he can claim these arent his coaches and the players can make their own choices.

They won today or the Giants lost? Its a coin flip either way.
 
DallasEast;3697362 said:
To merge or not to merge, that is the question.

It's up to you, my man, but I was just giving a few of us a chance to own up and give the guy props after "knowing" he wouldn't be the guy.
 
skinsscalper;3697390 said:
It's up to you, my man, but I was just giving a few of us a chance to own up and give the guy props after "knowing" he wouldn't be the guy.


im one of those guys, but do see my previous post.
 
We shall see. I don't like how he seems to have been calling plays differently than with Wade but if the players play for him then its a good fit. Wish we had more self motivaated players but whatever.
 
khiladi;3697388 said:
When your in shotgun, you can't fire off the ball. Your playing backwards.

Dallas from the start abandoned shotgun, even in passing situations. The idea that it had to do with tempo is absolutely absurd.

Learn to comprehend. The difference in the running game was the reason that Garrett didn't feel the need to be in a passing formation for 70% of the game. A lot of that came down to execution in the running game and attitude from the O-line. It was obviously a focus this week in practice because we did what WE HAVEN'T DONE all year in the running game (actually make it effective enough to let play-action do it's thing).

And who in the hell said anything about "firing off the ball" from shotgun. Read much?
 
NextGenBoys;3697382 said:
What's your point?

I along with many others have said all along Garrett would be a better head coach than coordinator.

You disagreed with that as well as everything else Garrett related.

Uh know... My point is that nothing stopped Garrett from having his OL fire off the ball from day 1. Dallas wouldn't be in this position if he actually did it...
 
skinsscalper;3697390 said:
It's up to you, my man, but I was just giving a few of us a chance to own up and give the guy props after "knowing" he wouldn't be the guy.
... but but but ... what about my 'Oil & water doesn't mix' experiment??? :cry3:
 
khiladi;3697388 said:
When your in shotgun, you can't fire off the ball. Your playing backwards.

Dallas from the start abandoned shotgun, even in passing situations. The idea that it had to do with tempo is absolutely absurd.

Shotgun is the root of all troubles.

Got it.
 

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