Fire Schotty & Eberflus; hire Gruden & Bowles

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Hear me out...

Brian Schottenheimer and Matt Eberflus have proven they simply don't have what it takes to push these Cowboys players and get them to consistently improve and perform so much better. Schottenheimer and Eberflus are horrible at making personnel decisions, running poor schemes and calling bad plays. Don't need to see them another year to know what they are: very bad coaches who will not get better at everything coaching.

The Dallas Cowboys need coaches who can push the players, make them study, think, process, perform & improve week by week. Someone like Jon Gruden and Todd Bowles would be a great fit, plus they would definitely make this team on offense, defense and special teams much better right away.

Jon Gruden:

Jon Gruden is widely considered a master of offense, particularly in developing quarterbacks and crafting complex West Coast schemes, but his Super Bowl win with Tampa Bay relied heavily on an elite defense, and his later Raiders tenure showed inconsistent offensive results despite his expertise, highlighting his genius for QB development and scheme over consistent overall offensive power.

Offensive Prowess:

QB Development: Gruden is famous for his ability to work with and improve quarterbacks, turning journeymen like Rich Gannon into successful leaders and giving QBs "the keys to run his offense".
Scheme: He's known for elaborate offensive systems, using various formations, motions, and personnel groupings, challenging quarterbacks daily with detailed execution, notes the New York Times and Forbes. This would greatly help Dak. Dak needs to be challenged to help him improve.

Super Bowl Offense: In Gruden's Super Bowl win, while the offense wasn't always dominant, it excelled in the playoffs, especially in the red zone, tweaking the system for big games, according to ESPN.

Todd Bowles:

Yes, Todd Bowles is widely regarded as a defensive mastermind and master coach, known for his complex, blitz-heavy schemes, incredible in-game adjustments (like shutting down the Chiefs in Super Bowl LV), and transforming units into top NFL performers, though his head coaching success has seen mixed results, highlighting his defensive prowess over overall HC skills at times.
Evidence of His Defensive Mastery:
  • Super Bowl LV: His Buccaneers defense held Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs to just 9 points, a legendary performance.
  • Elite Coordinator Years: As DC for the Bucs, his defenses ranked top in the league for takeaways, sacks, and rushing defense.
  • Complex System: He's known for using extensive coverages, disguises, and aggressive blitz packages, making it tough for offenses.
  • "Defensive Masterclass": He earned this praise for shutting down the Eagles' run game in a playoff game, forcing them to throw.
Known for his aggressive, versatile, attacking defenses that adapt to his personnel, successfully running both 3-4 and 4-3 schemes, Todd Bowles is particularly famous for his innovative 3-4 system with the Buccaneers, using athletic linemen and A-gap pressure to create chaos.

Bowles' Defensive Philosophy

Versatility is Key: Bowles emphasizes being adaptable, stating he's coached half his career in 3-4 and half in 4-3, adjusting based on the players he has.

Aggressive & Attacking: His defenses are known for constant pressure, blitzing, and creating turnovers, often utilizing creative looks to overwhelm offenses.

Personnel-Driven: He builds his schemes around his players' strengths, focusing on speed, athleticism, and interior penetration.
3-4 vs. 4-3

Master of Both: While he's comfortable in either base, his time with the Buccaneers solidified his reputation for molding defenses, often appearing as a 3-4 but with 4-3 principles.

3-4 Innovation: He excels at making the 3-4 work by using quick defensive linemen (like Vita Vea) and athletic linebackers (like Devin White, Lavonte David) to generate pressure from the interior.

In Summary: Todd Bowles isn't strictly a 3-4 or 4-3 master; he's a defensive strategist who masterfully adapts, but his most iconic work involves using the 3-4 base to unleash aggressive, unpredictable attacks

What say you?

:popcorn:
 
Gruden has been out of the game and needs to stay out of it. Bowles would be a good hire if the Buccaneers fire him, but right now, he's not on the market. And if he is fired, there may be teams with head coach opening that would consider him.
 
Gruden was catastrophically bad for the Raiders leaving behind a team bereft of talent and no resources to improve it. Keep him the hell away from the Cowboys. Bowles is a decent enough defensive guy but not one of the absolute top. If a guy like Jim Schwartz doesn’t become available I’d rather go for a younger guy with promise working under a top defensive regime.
 
As much as I enjoy watching Gruden his last stint with the raiders suggested the game was passing him by. I’d love to see him get a chance but also think he probably needs a younger up and coming OC to have a ton of influence on the offense while gruden is more the walk around guy. Some of those drafts he had were truly awful too….could be more of an issue with the GM though.
 
Hear me out...

Brian Schottenheimer and Matt Eberflus have proven they simply don't have what it takes to push these Cowboys players and get them to consistently improve and perform so much better. Schottenheimer and Eberflus are horrible at making personnel decisions, running poor schemes and calling bad plays. Don't need to see them another year to know what they are: very bad coaches who will not get better at everything coaching.

The Dallas Cowboys need coaches who can push the players, make them study, think, process, perform & improve week by week. Someone like Jon Gruden and Todd Bowles would be a great fit, plus they would definitely make this team on offense, defense and special teams much better right away.

Jon Gruden:

Jon Gruden is widely considered a master of offense, particularly in developing quarterbacks and crafting complex West Coast schemes, but his Super Bowl win with Tampa Bay relied heavily on an elite defense, and his later Raiders tenure showed inconsistent offensive results despite his expertise, highlighting his genius for QB development and scheme over consistent overall offensive power.

Offensive Prowess:

QB Development: Gruden is famous for his ability to work with and improve quarterbacks, turning journeymen like Rich Gannon into successful leaders and giving QBs "the keys to run his offense".
Scheme: He's known for elaborate offensive systems, using various formations, motions, and personnel groupings, challenging quarterbacks daily with detailed execution, notes the New York Times and Forbes. This would greatly help Dak. Dak needs to be challenged to help him improve.

Super Bowl Offense: In Gruden's Super Bowl win, while the offense wasn't always dominant, it excelled in the playoffs, especially in the red zone, tweaking the system for big games, according to ESPN.

Todd Bowles:

Yes, Todd Bowles is widely regarded as a defensive mastermind and master coach, known for his complex, blitz-heavy schemes, incredible in-game adjustments (like shutting down the Chiefs in Super Bowl LV), and transforming units into top NFL performers, though his head coaching success has seen mixed results, highlighting his defensive prowess over overall HC skills at times.
Evidence of His Defensive Mastery:
  • Super Bowl LV: His Buccaneers defense held Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs to just 9 points, a legendary performance.
  • Elite Coordinator Years: As DC for the Bucs, his defenses ranked top in the league for takeaways, sacks, and rushing defense.
  • Complex System: He's known for using extensive coverages, disguises, and aggressive blitz packages, making it tough for offenses.
  • "Defensive Masterclass": He earned this praise for shutting down the Eagles' run game in a playoff game, forcing them to throw.
Known for his aggressive, versatile, attacking defenses that adapt to his personnel, successfully running both 3-4 and 4-3 schemes, Todd Bowles is particularly famous for his innovative 3-4 system with the Buccaneers, using athletic linemen and A-gap pressure to create chaos.

Bowles' Defensive Philosophy

Versatility is Key: Bowles emphasizes being adaptable, stating he's coached half his career in 3-4 and half in 4-3, adjusting based on the players he has.

Aggressive & Attacking: His defenses are known for constant pressure, blitzing, and creating turnovers, often utilizing creative looks to overwhelm offenses.

Personnel-Driven: He builds his schemes around his players' strengths, focusing on speed, athleticism, and interior penetration.
3-4 vs. 4-3

Master of Both: While he's comfortable in either base, his time with the Buccaneers solidified his reputation for molding defenses, often appearing as a 3-4 but with 4-3 principles.

3-4 Innovation: He excels at making the 3-4 work by using quick defensive linemen (like Vita Vea) and athletic linebackers (like Devin White, Lavonte David) to generate pressure from the interior.

In Summary: Todd Bowles isn't strictly a 3-4 or 4-3 master; he's a defensive strategist who masterfully adapts, but his most iconic work involves using the 3-4 base to unleash aggressive, unpredictable attacks

What say you?

:popcorn:
Gruden has been gone too long and was terrible at his last stops anyway....I thought Bowles was a head coach of an NFL team....Would he take a demotion to just coach the Cowboys?
 
Gruden has been out of the game and needs to stay out of it. Bowles would be a good hire if the Buccaneers fire him, but right now, he's not on the market. And if he is fired, there may be teams with head coach opening that would consider him.
Did bowles win a SB
 
Hear me out...

Brian Schottenheimer and Matt Eberflus have proven they simply don't have what it takes to push these Cowboys players and get them to consistently improve and perform so much better. Schottenheimer and Eberflus are horrible at making personnel decisions, running poor schemes and calling bad plays. Don't need to see them another year to know what they are: very bad coaches who will not get better at everything coaching.

The Dallas Cowboys need coaches who can push the players, make them study, think, process, perform & improve week by week. Someone like Jon Gruden and Todd Bowles would be a great fit, plus they would definitely make this team on offense, defense and special teams much better right away.

Jon Gruden:

Jon Gruden is widely considered a master of offense, particularly in developing quarterbacks and crafting complex West Coast schemes, but his Super Bowl win with Tampa Bay relied heavily on an elite defense, and his later Raiders tenure showed inconsistent offensive results despite his expertise, highlighting his genius for QB development and scheme over consistent overall offensive power.

Offensive Prowess:

QB Development: Gruden is famous for his ability to work with and improve quarterbacks, turning journeymen like Rich Gannon into successful leaders and giving QBs "the keys to run his offense".
Scheme: He's known for elaborate offensive systems, using various formations, motions, and personnel groupings, challenging quarterbacks daily with detailed execution, notes the New York Times and Forbes. This would greatly help Dak. Dak needs to be challenged to help him improve.

Super Bowl Offense: In Gruden's Super Bowl win, while the offense wasn't always dominant, it excelled in the playoffs, especially in the red zone, tweaking the system for big games, according to ESPN.

Todd Bowles:

Yes, Todd Bowles is widely regarded as a defensive mastermind and master coach, known for his complex, blitz-heavy schemes, incredible in-game adjustments (like shutting down the Chiefs in Super Bowl LV), and transforming units into top NFL performers, though his head coaching success has seen mixed results, highlighting his defensive prowess over overall HC skills at times.
Evidence of His Defensive Mastery:
  • Super Bowl LV: His Buccaneers defense held Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs to just 9 points, a legendary performance.
  • Elite Coordinator Years: As DC for the Bucs, his defenses ranked top in the league for takeaways, sacks, and rushing defense.
  • Complex System: He's known for using extensive coverages, disguises, and aggressive blitz packages, making it tough for offenses.
  • "Defensive Masterclass": He earned this praise for shutting down the Eagles' run game in a playoff game, forcing them to throw.
Known for his aggressive, versatile, attacking defenses that adapt to his personnel, successfully running both 3-4 and 4-3 schemes, Todd Bowles is particularly famous for his innovative 3-4 system with the Buccaneers, using athletic linemen and A-gap pressure to create chaos.

Bowles' Defensive Philosophy

Versatility is Key: Bowles emphasizes being adaptable, stating he's coached half his career in 3-4 and half in 4-3, adjusting based on the players he has.

Aggressive & Attacking: His defenses are known for constant pressure, blitzing, and creating turnovers, often utilizing creative looks to overwhelm offenses.

Personnel-Driven: He builds his schemes around his players' strengths, focusing on speed, athleticism, and interior penetration.
3-4 vs. 4-3

Master of Both: While he's comfortable in either base, his time with the Buccaneers solidified his reputation for molding defenses, often appearing as a 3-4 but with 4-3 principles.

3-4 Innovation: He excels at making the 3-4 work by using quick defensive linemen (like Vita Vea) and athletic linebackers (like Devin White, Lavonte David) to generate pressure from the interior.

In Summary: Todd Bowles isn't strictly a 3-4 or 4-3 master; he's a defensive strategist who masterfully adapts, but his most iconic work involves using the 3-4 base to unleash aggressive, unpredictable attacks

What say you?

:popcorn:
Yeah AC!
 
Gruden has been gone too long and was terrible at his last stops anyway....I thought Bowles was a head coach of an NFL team....Would he take a demotion to just coach the Cowboys?
Par for the course with the OPs last week of threads...
 
No more offensive HCs please. This team needs a defensive mind like Parcells to overcome the Jerry culture. Jerry is still stuck in Arkansas playing on the offensive line and thinking he can win it all if he spends it all on that unit. Which isn't that bad an idea, but Jerry needs a coach like Parcells who is both defensive minded and has Jerry's respect on team culture and building.
 
I don’t think they’re firing him, so Bowles would take a trade. Are you willing to give up the Micah bounty just for a D coordinator upgrade?
 
Did bowles win a SB
He won one as a player, one as an executive and one as a defensive coordinator. In fact, I'd say his defense in Tampa was the main reason the Bucs won in 2021. They beat the Chiefs 31-9 in the Super Bowl. Bruce Arians was an offensive coach, so I give credit entirely to Bowles for that defensive effort.

Gruden's Super Bowl victory was more than 20 years ago, and he's 67-82 since then with two playoff appearances (both wild-card losses) in 10 seasons.
 
He won one as a player, one as an executive and one as a defensive coordinator. In fact, I'd say his defense in Tampa was the main reason the Bucs won in 2021. They beat the Chiefs 31-9 in the Super Bowl. Bruce Arians was an offensive coach, so I give credit entirely to Bowles for that defensive effort.

Gruden's Super Bowl victory was more than 20 years ago, and he's 67-82 since then with two playoff appearances (both wild-card losses) in 10 seasons.
I'll take Bowles then.
 
Gruden has been gone too long and was terrible at his last stops anyway....I thought Bowles was a head coach of an NFL team....Would he take a demotion to just coach the Cowboys?
I think the OP is assuming Bowles will be fired. The Bucs made the playoffs his first three years as head coach and are in the running this year, so I don't think he's going anywhere. But too be fair, one of those playoff years, they were 8-9 and this year might be similar to that. They also finished first in the South at 9-8 and 10-7 the other two years, so Tampa's front office might think it can improve on its head coaching position.
 
I'll take Bowles then.
If he was fired, he'd certainly be one of my top options. I'm curious what kind of relationship he has with the Joneses since he was here from 2005-07.

I think whoever we get needs to be someone who pushes for the players he wants, but I don't think this front office will hire a DC who makes such demands.
 

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