First Impressions are Sometimes Right

America's Cowboy said:
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What I see is a db holding dezs hand as he tries to go for a catch that should have been thrown where he turned to locate it. But he had to do a 180 to catch it. Timing was thrown off from the db holding him. Thus a drop.
 
cwbyfn88 said:
What I see is a db holding dezs hand as he tries to go for a catch that should have been thrown where he turned to locate it. But he had to do a 180 to catch it. Timing was thrown off from the db holding him. Thus a drop.
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He had his hand on his waist. They were handfighting, as DB's and WR's do all the time.

Seriously, if Dez can't fight off this guy and go get the ball, his salary needs to be more like $600,000.
 
jazzcat22 said:
The FO did a very nice job in filling some holes as to the depth which was so badly needed. There was really no FA LB's out there that could help, other than Bowman, and he is still out there.

They added depth to the OL, and possibly a starter in Fleming. Replaced the FB with a slightly better option. Addressed some depth at WR though many are still not happy, but what else is new. LOL.

We need defense. They did not address S, but maybe they did not like the options, and / or the price tags were too high. Same for DT.
But there is still time for any S's to be brought in.

They did bring in Ealy, and maybe he plays some on the inside as well.

I think they see how the draft falls, get LB's, DT's, S's as a priority. Over OL and certainly WR.
A 3rd RB can be drafted in the later rounds as well.

LB / Dt whichever is the BPA first, then the other, then another LB, S, then OL.
After that they can go S or RB, or even another LB
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I can see us being in Bowman right before TC.
 
Jumbo075 said:
Going back to January, in the immediate aftermath of the season, these were my thoughts then
  • Offensively, the Cowboys need
    • Backup QB
    • Backup RB
    • Starting Oline - preferably OT, and move Collins back to OG
    • Resign FB - (Replacing with Jamize Olawale is acceptable)
    • Stand pat at WR and TE, because the issue with the drop off in pass production had more to do with bad play by Dak (who is still developing) than the receiving Corps
    • Hopeful that Rico Gathers bounces back, and becomes the heir apparent to Witten
  • Defensively, the Cowboys need
    • Three new Linebackers
    • Resign Irving and Lawrence
    • No way Hitchens was staying
    • Draft a 1-tech
    • Need a true free safety
    • Stand pat at DE and CB, allowing the young players to further develop
    • Admittedly, I still believe that Gregory will come back, and take over the starting RDE position, although I'm sure he'll have to work his way into the rotation
  • Special Team, the Cowboys need
    • Better return game
    • resign Ladouceur
    • Stand pat with Bailey and Jones as kickers
Those were my thoughts in January. Then I started hearing all the ruckus about Wide Receiver upgrades, and I was very disappointed to find out the Cowboys were so intent on that. I still don't believe the Cowboys problems in the passing game are the fault of the receivers. Dak doesn't throw with anticipation. You can brag all day about his tight window throwing percentage, but one of the reasons he has so many tight window throws is he doesn't throw receivers open. He waits for them to get open, and then reacts. By the time he makes the throws, those windows tighten back up.

I like that Dak is so careful to try to take care of the football. But sometimes, he tries to be too safe. He doesn't trust the receiver to uncover BEFORE he makes the throw. He waits. That led to more sacks last year, and also lower production by the recieving corps. He MUST get better.

The good news is that Dak is the type of player who will commit himself to getting better. The bad news is we, as fans, still don't really know if he'll take that next step in his development. Like many others, I think he greatly benefitted from Romo being on the sideline in 2016. I'm rooting for Dak. Regardless of my fond memories of Romo, it was time for him to retire. I would like to have fond memories of Dak 10 years from now. But Dak is a work in progress.

I've come to grips with the idea (even if I don't like it) that the Cowboys are serious about upgrading the WR corps. I hope it doesn't come at the expense of improving the middle of the Cowboys defense, which is easily the weakest part of the team. And the LB corps needs a serious infusion of talent.

I still think my first impressions were correct.
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Personally I think you are putting too much of the blame on Dak. I think the majority of the blame should be put on the inconsistency with our OLine and the failure to have adequate depth on the OLine and our coaches inability to make adjustments. We only had 2 positions on our OLine that were steady and consistent all year long. Fredericks at center and Martin at RG were the only 2 that pulled their weight the entire season. RT was weak for the majority of the season because we took Collins who had played LT and LG in college and the pros and decided to make him learn RT on the fly. It started off rough for him but he got better as the season went along. LG was weak the entire season. Chaz Green stunk and could not stay healthy. He was replaced by Cooper who was OK but not near what we had with Leary and Collins at the position. LT was on and off due to the back issues of Tyron Smith. When Tyron was playing he was not near as effective as in the past. When he was out, Chaz Green and Byron Bell were atrocious. Pressure on Dak forced him to get rid of the ball quicker than the prior year. When he did have time to throw our WRs and TEs were unable to create seperation.
 
kskboys said:
He had his hand on his waist. They were handfighting, as DB's and WR's do all the time.

Seriously, if Dez can't fight off this guy and go get the ball, his salary needs to be more like $600,000.
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While I agree dez should have caught it. Which was my initial response seeing it live, I can't say it was a well placed ball either. If you watch the video again you will see the db holding the arm as dez starts to go up for the ball. Like you said though. Dez should be catching everything thrown at him at the money he is getting
 
cern said:
The largest common denominator in the passing game between dak's rookie season and last year was dez. He missed a lot more time dak's rookie season leaving dak the option of throwing to the open man. Dez became a legend in his own mind.
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Uh...wat?
 
Jumbo075 said:
Going back to January, in the immediate aftermath of the season, these were my thoughts then
  • Offensively, the Cowboys need
    • Backup QB
    • Backup RB
    • Starting Oline - preferably OT, and move Collins back to OG
    • Resign FB - (Replacing with Jamize Olawale is acceptable)
    • Stand pat at WR and TE, because the issue with the drop off in pass production had more to do with bad play by Dak (who is still developing) than the receiving Corps
    • Hopeful that Rico Gathers bounces back, and becomes the heir apparent to Witten
  • Defensively, the Cowboys need
    • Three new Linebackers
    • Resign Irving and Lawrence
    • No way Hitchens was staying
    • Draft a 1-tech
    • Need a true free safety
    • Stand pat at DE and CB, allowing the young players to further develop
    • Admittedly, I still believe that Gregory will come back, and take over the starting RDE position, although I'm sure he'll have to work his way into the rotation
  • Special Team, the Cowboys need
    • Better return game
    • resign Ladouceur
    • Stand pat with Bailey and Jones as kickers
Those were my thoughts in January. Then I started hearing all the ruckus about Wide Receiver upgrades, and I was very disappointed to find out the Cowboys were so intent on that. I still don't believe the Cowboys problems in the passing game are the fault of the receivers. Dak doesn't throw with anticipation. You can brag all day about his tight window throwing percentage, but one of the reasons he has so many tight window throws is he doesn't throw receivers open. He waits for them to get open, and then reacts. By the time he makes the throws, those windows tighten back up.

I like that Dak is so careful to try to take care of the football. But sometimes, he tries to be too safe. He doesn't trust the receiver to uncover BEFORE he makes the throw. He waits. That led to more sacks last year, and also lower production by the recieving corps. He MUST get better.

The good news is that Dak is the type of player who will commit himself to getting better. The bad news is we, as fans, still don't really know if he'll take that next step in his development. Like many others, I think he greatly benefitted from Romo being on the sideline in 2016. I'm rooting for Dak. Regardless of my fond memories of Romo, it was time for him to retire. I would like to have fond memories of Dak 10 years from now. But Dak is a work in progress.

I've come to grips with the idea (even if I don't like it) that the Cowboys are serious about upgrading the WR corps. I hope it doesn't come at the expense of improving the middle of the Cowboys defense, which is easily the weakest part of the team. And the LB corps needs a serious infusion of talent.

I still think my first impressions were correct.
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I don't think I've ever agreed with a post more. We literally have the exact same opinion of the entire team. However, I have not come to grips with drafting a receiver round 1. I will be livid. I don't think this draft even has a first round d receiver. There is no Dez or Julio Jones or Megatron in this draft. I want a LB, S or 1 Tech. If you have to move up do it. If a lot are left on the board move down and add pics but don't waste it on a receiver.
 
Jumbo075 said:
Going back to January, in the immediate aftermath of the season, these were my thoughts then
  • Offensively, the Cowboys need
    • Backup QB
    • Backup RB
    • Starting Oline - preferably OT, and move Collins back to OG
    • Resign FB - (Replacing with Jamize Olawale is acceptable)
    • Stand pat at WR and TE, because the issue with the drop off in pass production had more to do with bad play by Dak (who is still developing) than the receiving Corps
    • Hopeful that Rico Gathers bounces back, and becomes the heir apparent to Witten
  • Defensively, the Cowboys need
    • Three new Linebackers
    • Resign Irving and Lawrence
    • No way Hitchens was staying
    • Draft a 1-tech
    • Need a true free safety
    • Stand pat at DE and CB, allowing the young players to further develop
    • Admittedly, I still believe that Gregory will come back, and take over the starting RDE position, although I'm sure he'll have to work his way into the rotation
  • Special Team, the Cowboys need
    • Better return game
    • resign Ladouceur
    • Stand pat with Bailey and Jones as kickers
Those were my thoughts in January. Then I started hearing all the ruckus about Wide Receiver upgrades, and I was very disappointed to find out the Cowboys were so intent on that. I still don't believe the Cowboys problems in the passing game are the fault of the receivers. Dak doesn't throw with anticipation. You can brag all day about his tight window throwing percentage, but one of the reasons he has so many tight window throws is he doesn't throw receivers open. He waits for them to get open, and then reacts. By the time he makes the throws, those windows tighten back up.

I like that Dak is so careful to try to take care of the football. But sometimes, he tries to be too safe. He doesn't trust the receiver to uncover BEFORE he makes the throw. He waits. That led to more sacks last year, and also lower production by the recieving corps. He MUST get better.

The good news is that Dak is the type of player who will commit himself to getting better. The bad news is we, as fans, still don't really know if he'll take that next step in his development. Like many others, I think he greatly benefitted from Romo being on the sideline in 2016. I'm rooting for Dak. Regardless of my fond memories of Romo, it was time for him to retire. I would like to have fond memories of Dak 10 years from now. But Dak is a work in progress.

I've come to grips with the idea (even if I don't like it) that the Cowboys are serious about upgrading the WR corps. I hope it doesn't come at the expense of improving the middle of the Cowboys defense, which is easily the weakest part of the team. And the LB corps needs a serious infusion of talent.

I still think my first impressions were correct.
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The resigned Ladouceur 1 year deal
 
cern said:
:huh:
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That's my expression after reading youtr your last post.

Dez is the greatest common denominator? That makes no sense.

Nothing prevented Dak from throwing to the open man except his own ability.
 
Kevinicus said:
If only that wasn't completely false.
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The Atlanta game was a QB’s worse nightmare!!!, so the statement was not completely false. Also, after that game, Dak was still getting pressured consistently and the coaches did a lousy job of game planning to get receivers open and game planning( chipping etc.) to protect Dak, especially his blind side when Tyrone was out. Later in the year vs Seattle the stupid coaches again allowed Dak to get pressured throughout that game, especially from his blind side!! We are seriously handcuffed by these coaches. If they do not get more creative and coach smarter we will again be mediocre, even though our talent is not!!
 
ESisback said:
This is pretty close, IMHO. If they draft decently (DT, LB, backup RB, FS), and they get something out of Gathers, I think they'll be OK. I see them getting a LB early, then maybe pick up a cheap vet after cuts (ala Durant).
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If they get something out of Gathers? That’s a big IF. He’s a head case that will be forgotten in a year in my opinion.
 
Captain43Crash said:
The Atlanta game was a QB’s worse nightmare!!!, so the statement was not completely false. Also, after that game, Dak was still getting pressured consistently and the coaches did a lousy job of game planning to get receivers open and game planning( chipping etc.) to protect Dak, especially his blind side when Tyrone was out. Later in the year vs Seattle the stupid coaches again allowed Dak to get pressured throughout that game, especially from his blind side!! We are seriously handcuffed by these coaches. If they do not get more creative and coach smarter we will again be mediocre, even though our talent is not!!
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I was referring to the bolded part.
 
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