Fiscal Responsibility.

[jterrell]

For Jerry to walk the walk what he has to do is draft well. And draft day 1 starters.

Today was a start but he would have come out much better financially by dropping 10 slots and getting a guy more prepared to start day 1.

This also means forgetting free agents like Nmandi certainly and even Huff.

I personally believe every pick we make in the first three rounds sees their incumbent released. Today meant bye bye to Columbo. Tomorrow could be Marcus Spears or Terence Newman or Leonard Davis but getting expenses under control means cutting dead overpaid weight. I expect RW11 and Barber are gone for certain as replacements are already on the roster. But selections in rounds 4-6 at those spots would be telling imho.

 

[Galian Beast]

The reward of getting extra picks didn't outweigh the risk of not getting the tackle Jerry wanted.

 

[Idgit]

For Jerry to walk the walk what he has to do is draft well. And draft day 1 starters.

Today was a start but he would have come out much better financially by dropping 10 slots and getting a guy more prepared to start day 1.

This also means forgetting free agents like Nmandi certainly and even Huff.

I personally believe every pick we make in the first three rounds sees their incumbent released. Today meant bye bye to Columbo. Tomorrow could be Marcus Spears or Terence Newman or Leonard Davis but getting expenses under control means cutting dead overpaid weight. I expect RW11 and Barber are gone for certain as replacements are already on the roster. But selections in rounds 4-6 at those spots would be telling imho.

There's not a sentence in this post I remotely agree with.

 

[casmith07]

Right. Because Jerry and only Jerry wanted Tyron Smith. Jason Garrett was clearly not thinking long term success of his offense with this selection, nor was he or will he be even remotely involved in this draft process.

 

[CCBoy]

Right. Because Jerry and only Jerry wanted Tyron Smith. Jason Garrett was clearly not thinking long term success of his offense with this selection, nor was he or will he be even remotely involved in this draft process.

Like the monikor update a lot....:starspin

 

[RastaRocket]

eh; we did a good job the pick was great.

 

[Randy White]

There's not a sentence in this post I remotely agree with.

Why not ?

 

[Doomsday101]

For Jerry to walk the walk what he has to do is draft well. And draft day 1 starters.

Today was a start but he would have come out much better financially by dropping 10 slots and getting a guy more prepared to start day 1.

This also means forgetting free agents like Nmandi certainly and even Huff.

I personally believe every pick we make in the first three rounds sees their incumbent released. Today meant bye bye to Columbo. Tomorrow could be Marcus Spears or Terence Newman or Leonard Davis but getting expenses under control means cutting dead overpaid weight. I expect RW11 and Barber are gone for certain as replacements are already on the roster. But selections in rounds 4-6 at those spots would be telling imho.

I don't think the pick will have any affect on Dallas bring in a FA or 2

 

[basstapp]

I dont see the point of not grabbiing Huff. He loves Dallas, he is an all pro safety, he is being reunited with a DC he has played with and we dont have any safeties....

Roy Williams is not going to get cut because of his salary implications this year and his replacement is not on the field. Who is going to be the 3rd receiver? Ogletree, Johnson? Holley? neither of them are consistent enough to warrant that positon. Williams was on fire when Romo was not hurt last year so I am looking for awesome things from him this year.

 

[jterrell]

Why not ?

Yes, surprises me as well as I didn't think I said anything remotely shocking or even in real question.

I suspect we see what I stated play out however and by early next week so no worries seeing how close I am to the actuality.

 

[jterrell]

I dont see the point of not grabbiing Huff. He loves Dallas, he is an all pro safety, he is being reunited with a DC he has played with and we dont have any safeties....

Roy Williams is not going to get cut because of his salary implications this year and his replacement is not on the field. Who is going to be the 3rd receiver? Ogletree, Johnson? Holley? neither of them are consistent enough to warrant that positon. Williams was on fire when Romo was not hurt last year so I am looking for awesome things from him this year.

The point is he wants to get paid. He isn't trying to leave Oakland because he loves Dallas regardless of what goofy stuff you might read.

He wants a lot of money to play FS. A position we filled on the cheap last year. While I realize we sucked there, you can't go out and get free agents to fill holes if you are trying to cut costs and now both Stephen and Jerry have stated we are cutting costs. Our cap rate is quite high and even without a cap we are the highest salaried team so will reduce costs on players as the vast majority on this board want us to.

If people read Jerry's own quotes he makes it clear he is targeting guys in this draft to come in and play at those positions. Yet not a single time has he mentioned FA providing answers.

 

[jterrell]

eh; we did a good job the pick was great.

I love Smith's athleticism and age. One could compare him to Witten who also came out as a pup and wowed athletically without a lot of college experience. We saw how that worked out.

But 9th picks cost a lot of money. And Smith is probably less ready today than Carimi or Costanzo and possible a few others. We went for the best overall athlete and I am not complaining. I am pointing out how this relates financially as it has become the mantra of this off-season.

You look at where the Cowboys are financially and this is why we are not a middle of the pack team in player expense. We like to grab headliners and we spend for them. We very seldom go safe or conservative.

 

[TNCowboy]

I love Smith's athleticism and age. One could compare him to Witten who also came out as a pup and wowed athletically without a lot of college experience. We saw how that worked out.

But 9th picks cost a lot of money. And Smith is probably less ready today than Carimi or Costanzo and possible a few others. We went for the best overall athlete and I am not complaining. I am pointing out how this relates financially as it has become the mantra of this off-season.

You look at where the Cowboys are financially and this is why we are not a middle of the pack team in player expense. We like to grab headliners and we spend for them. We very seldom go safe or conservative.

Trading down a few spots would not bring enormous cap savings. It's not like we made a top 5 pick.

Drafting Smith will likely have little impact on how much the Cowboys spend on FAs.

 

[jterrell]

Trading down a few spots would not bring enormous cap savings. It's not like we made a top 5 pick.

Drafting Smith will likely have little impact on how much the Cowboys spend on FAs.

That's simply not true.

The 9th pick last year signed for 5 years at 37 million with 20 mil guaranteed.

The 15th pick: 5 for 20 with 11.6 G
20th: 5 for 16 with 13.5G

Essentially you are paying double at 9 of what you pay at 15.
And do the math on that.
That's over 7 mil a year at 9.
That's a top 10 on the roster type salary.

 

[ShiningStar]

in other words, whatever dallas does, ill hate.

Face it, maybe you forgot last season, but your QB cant win from throwing on the ground. We needed to protect Romo and this guy is going to help and the cost is worth it.

Loss of QB + guy who can get the job done ='s WORTH IT.

 

[jterrell]

in other words, whatever dallas does, ill hate.

Face it, maybe you forgot last season, but your QB cant win from throwing on the ground. We needed to protect Romo and this guy is going to help and the cost is worth it.

Loss of QB + guy who can get the job done ='s WORTH IT.

ROFL. Not sure where this concept comes from.
I do not at all hate the draft pick.

I would have made the same pick (at 9) as I have stated many times in many threads prior to the selection.

All in all this thread is about the financial repercussions of how you handle the draft.

Stephen Jones himself has stated he hates having top 10 picks because they are expensive. We want top 10 talent but it is a risk to pay very young guys 30+ million.

From a purely financial standpoint we have to fill holes with picks in rounds 2 and 3. Hitting on draft picks is what saves you money. Hitting on them without needing top 10 picks a la NE is what keeps you winning and affordable.

 

[burmafrd]

in other words, whatever dallas does, ill hate.

Face it, maybe you forgot last season, but your QB cant win from throwing on the ground. We needed to protect Romo and this guy is going to help and the cost is worth it.

Loss of QB + guy who can get the job done ='s WORTH IT.

I have come to the conclusion that the great majority of the posters here NEED to whine even when there is nothing to whine about.

 

[TNCowboy]

That's simply not true.

The 9th pick last year signed for 5 years at 37 million with 20 mil guaranteed.

The 15th pick: 5 for 20 with 11.6 G
20th: 5 for 16 with 13.5G

Essentially you are paying double at 9 of what you pay at 15.
And do the math on that.
That's over 7 mil a year at 9.
That's a top 10 on the roster type salary.

I looked up Spiller's contract. It's a 5 yr $25M deal with $12M additional in possible incentives if he hits certain stats the last year. That's not really the same thing as saying he has a $37.5M deal.

The cap hit from any of those contracts isn't huge in the first few years. That isn't going to shape what the Cowboys do in free agency to any great degree.

If Huff is available and his contract demands aren't out of this world, he's going to be a Cowboy, for better or worse.

 

[jterrell]

I looked up Spiller's contract. It's a 5 yr $25M deal with $12M additional in possible incentives if he hits certain stats the last year. That's not really the same thing as saying he has a $37.5M deal.

The cap hit from any of those contracts isn't huge in the first few years. That isn't going to shape what the Cowboys do in free agency to any great degree.

If Huff is available and his contract demands aren't out of this world, he's going to be a Cowboy, for better or worse.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...ontract-status-of-2010-firstround-draft-picks

Read the actual list there for 2010 and notice the severe drop off in contract totals and yearly.

Spiller's deal being backloaded is largely irrelevant as the total contract and guaranteed money are what matters by slot. Again this guy got 21 million GUARANTEED. That is MORE than the total contact of anyone after pick 14.
You are arguing that cost doesn't matter but it clearly does. Why are NFL owners in court if they do not care about costs?

I am guessing the majority of the backlash to this thread has been people in man love with Michael Huff but that will simply not be happening. Huff isn't a true free agent and we aren't paying him what he wants anyway.

 

[CCBoy]

ROFL. Not sure where this concept comes from.
I do not at all hate the draft pick.

I would have made the same pick (at 9) as I have stated many times in many threads prior to the selection.

All in all this thread is about the financial repercussions of how you handle the draft.

Stephen Jones himself has stated he hates having top 10 picks because they are expensive. We want top 10 talent but it is a risk to pay very young guys 30+ million.

From a purely financial standpoint we have to fill holes with picks in rounds 2 and 3. Hitting on draft picks is what saves you money. Hitting on them without needing top 10 picks a la NE is what keeps you winning and affordable.

Here, although, Stephen hit a home run as the combined cost of a new contract for Doug Free plus the negotiated 'rook' contract will equal to what Colombo would have received. That then projects for five years at an equal cost and definite upgrade in top level potentials also.