Five extra Draft Picks in 2017

[Kaiser]

OP has a braincramp I just edited. Instead, see the AdamJT13 comment below!

 

[Kaiser]

Fun note and a shoutout to @AdamJT13 , if you Google whether comp picks can be traded the top link is the SB Nation site for the Ravens. Its says Adam was the only guy in the country that figured out the formula for compensation picks. And when you think about it, that probably includes the NFL Front Office.

However, our friends at Overthecap have figured out the basic parameters of the formula, continuing the work of an anonymous online blogger, AdamJT13, who had the basic formula down but disappeared a few years ago from the internet.

http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/20...llow-the-trading-of-future-compensatory-picks

 

[speedkilz88]

Comp picks for losing free agents next year won't be until the year after. And it also depends if the Cowboys sign anyone.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Fun note and a shoutout to @AdamJT13 , if you Google whether comp picks can be traded the top link is the SB Nation site for the Ravens. Its says Adam was the only guy in the country that figured out the formula for compensation picks. And when you think about it, that probably includes the NFL Front Office.

However, our friends at Overthecap have figured out the basic parameters of the formula, continuing the work of an anonymous online blogger, AdamJT13, who had the basic formula down but disappeared a few years ago from the internet.

http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/20...llow-the-trading-of-future-compensatory-picks

Adam (Jerry Jr.) is the man!

 

[DFWJC]

Coming off a 2016 draft that may end up being the best in Cowboys history, its fun to think about next year because we will likely have five extra draft picks from trades and compensatory picks.

In 2017 we don’t have a 5th but have an extra 7th (Cassel trade). This will be the first year compensatory picks are tradable so we may be able to package them to move up for a higher pick. So what will bring back picks in trades or compensation?


Romo is likely to be traded, I won’t guess the round to avoid sidetracking the thread.

Either Ron Leary will sign elsewhere and give us a pick (likely at the end of the 4th round) or they will resign Leary and trade La’el Collins – probably for a pick in the 3rd round (or perhaps higher).

For later picks I think Terrence Williams will leave and bring back a 6th round comp pick, and DMC and Escobar will sign contracts elsewhere high enough to bring back 7th round comp picks.

In my scenario Claiborne, Terrell McClain and Jack Crawford resign in Dallas. Any of them would likely bring back a comp pick if they signed elsewhere.

Gachkar and JJ Wilcox will resign or if they don’t, they wouldn’t sign for enough to bring back a comp pick.

So that scenario leaves our 2017 draft with picks in these rounds:

1

2

3 3 (Romo, round is TBD)

4 4

5

6 6

7 7 7 7


And before you write off those late round picks, remember this year’s 6th round gave us a starting caliber CB in Brown, two guys in Frazier and Jackson that will be good depth at a minimum – plus a lottery ticket in Rico Gathers. In 2015 the 7th round gave us Swaim and Nzeocha, plus an added compensatory 7th would likely have meant us drafting Thomas Rawls.

Won't any comp picks obtained for players leaving after this season not be in affect until 2018, after they have played a year with their new teams?

 

[dogunwo]

AdamJT13, who had the basic formula down but disappeared a few years ago from the internet.

He has returned.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Coming off a 2016 draft that may end up being the best in Cowboys history, its fun to think about next year because we will likely have five extra draft picks from trades and compensatory picks.

In 2017 we don’t have a 5th but have an extra 7th (Cassel trade). This will be the first year compensatory picks are tradable so we may be able to package them to move up for a higher pick. So what will bring back picks in trades or compensation?


Romo is likely to be traded, I won’t guess the round to avoid sidetracking the thread.

Either Ron Leary will sign elsewhere and give us a pick (likely at the end of the 4th round) or they will resign Leary and trade La’el Collins – probably for a pick in the 3rd round (or perhaps higher).

For later picks I think Terrence Williams will leave and bring back a 6th round comp pick, and DMC and Escobar will sign contracts elsewhere high enough to bring back 7th round comp picks.

In my scenario Claiborne, Terrell McClain and Jack Crawford resign in Dallas. Any of them would likely bring back a comp pick if they signed elsewhere.

Gachkar and JJ Wilcox will resign or if they don’t, they wouldn’t sign for enough to bring back a comp pick.

So that scenario leaves our 2017 draft with picks in these rounds:

1

2

3 3 (Romo, round is TBD)

4 4

5

6 6

7 7 7 7


And before you write off those late round picks, remember this year’s 6th round gave us a starting caliber CB in Brown, two guys in Frazier and Jackson that will be good depth at a minimum – plus a lottery ticket in Rico Gathers. In 2015 the 7th round gave us Swaim and Nzeocha, plus an added compensatory 7th would likely have meant us drafting Thomas Rawls.

yea, you're off a year. we aren't getting any comp picks in 2017 because we lost no one of any consequence. In 2018, we should get a pick for Leary. Terrence Williams will likely net a good one as well, but I would not expect much from DMC and Escobar. but this is all dependent on who we sign.

 

[TheHerd]

And given the Chaz Green ongoing MASH unit, I'd say keeping Leary and Collins will be a high priority. And yes I know there is a cap.

 

[Kaiser]

Comp picks for losing free agents next year won't be until the year after. And it also depends if the Cowboys sign anyone.

Yeahhhhhh, let me rework this post. I think the FAs being signed would either be a guy like Church leaving with a player signed at a similar contract (which I forgot to list also) or possibly a big contract WR like Alshon Jeffrey.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Quality over quantity.

No projects.

No players with drug issues.

Championship!

 

[AzorAhai]

First off, comp picks aren't awarded until the following year. Anyone who leaves in 2017 will not net a comp pick until 2018.

Second, any players who are signing deals from the 5th, 6th, 7th Rd value can easily be offset by signings of their own. Dallas doesn't play in the top end of FA, but they do sign some lower end guys most years like most teams. Especially this year when Claiborne, Carr, Wilcox, Church Williams, Butler and Escobar are all set to be FA. They will likely need replacements for at least some of those players plus an OG, LB and help along the DL. They are going to have to be active in some facet of FA which is going to limit the addition of any comp picks from outgoing players. The draft is simply not enough to replace what they will likely lose.

 

[Kaiser]

Second, any players who are signing deals from the 5th, 6th, 7th Rd value can easily be offset by signings of their own. Dallas doesn't play in the top end of FA, but they do sign some lower end guys most years like most teams.

But there is a lot less pressure to do that this year because we have drafted well lately. We won't give up a comp pick this year (possible Sanchez, correct me if I'm wrong) and our 2016 draft only had offset picks for DMC, Gachkar and Hardy (who was a special case) when we lost seven players for a net of 4 comp picks.

Of the players listed, I think Claiborne resigns. Church could leave and be offset by a similar player but a lot of the other players could be offset by draft picks or PS players we already have.

Carr would be replaced by Brown.
DMC would be replaced by Darius Jackson
TWill would be replaced by Butler and/or Andy Jones from the PS
Wilcox would be replaced by Frazier
Escobar would be replaced by Hanna coming back and/or Rico Gathers

 

[AzorAhai]

But there is a lot less pressure to do that this year because we have drafted well lately. We won't give up a comp pick this year (possible Sanchez, correct me if I'm wrong) and our 2016 draft only had offset picks for DMC, Gachkar and Hardy (who was a special case) when we lost seven players for a net of 4 comp picks.

Of the players listed, I think Claiborne resigns. Church could leave and be offset by a similar player but a lot of the other players could be offset by draft picks or PS players we already have.

Carr would be replaced by Brown.
DMC would be replaced by Darius Jackson
TWill would be replaced by Butler and/or Andy Jones from the PS
Wilcox would be replaced by Frazier
Escobar would be replaced by Hanna coming back and/or Rico Gathers

They aren't going to depend on the draft alone to fill those holes. Frankly, there's some pretty good sized holes to fill. RB is fine to fill in house. Maybe LB if Smith recovers. Outside of that they will be needing at minimum to bring in several Gachkar level players for depth and probably more players overall. Getting a lot of comp picks is great, but there's going to be too much turnover in important pieces to use that strategy this year. And I seriously doubt they want just the rookie pool and below comp pick level players to replace the gaggle of FA they are going to lose. I think they might end up with a couple of higher comp picks in return for losing some of Williams, Claiborne, Carr, Church and Leary, but I expect the lower tier picks to be offset by new additions. We could see something like 2 4ths or a 4th a a 5th though.

 

[stilltheguru88]

Quality over quantity.

No projects.

No players with drug issues.

Championship!

Back to back, yup